Why is this AH Gnana Rajasekharan, involved in directing/producing films? Isnt there a rule that people in Govt. service shouldnt be involved in any other activities? Late NTR was prevented from acting in movies when he was the CM. Now how is this fellow doing a business while being in Govt. Service? Or is he kicked out or retired?
UNDERSTAND ORIGINAL CASTE SYSTEM CLEARLY AND THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND HOW IT WAS MISUSED IN INDIAN HISTORY. HERE IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE WORLD FAMOUS BOOK "AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A YOGI" by SWAMI PARAMAHAMSA YOGANANDA. HERE IS A FREE ONLINE VERSION OF THIS BOOK:
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---------------------------------------------------------------< BR>HERE IS THE CASTE SYSTEM EXPLANATION IN ITS UNADULTERATED FORM: --------------------------------------------------------------- The origin of the caste system, formulated by the great legislator Manu, was admirable. He saw clearly that men are distinguished by natural evolution into four great classes: those capable of offering service to society through their bodily labor ( Sudras); those who serve through mentality, skill, agriculture, trade, commerce, business life in general (Vaisyas); those whose talents are administrative, executive, and protective%u2014rulers and warriors ( Kshatriyas); those of contemplative nature, spiritually inspired and inspiring (Brahmins). "Neither birth nor sacraments nor study nor ancestry can decide whether a person is twice-born (i.e., a Brahmin);" the Mahabharata declares, "character and conduct only can decide."Manu instructed society to show respect to its members insofar as they possessed wisdom, virtue, age, kinship or, lastly, wealth. Riches in Vedic India were always despised if they were hoarded or unavailable for charitable purposes. Ungenerous men of great wealth were assigned a low rank in society.
"Inclusion in one of these four castes originally depended not on a man's birth but on his natural capacities as demonstrated by the goal in life he elected to achieve," an article in East-West for January, 1935, tells us. "This goal could be (1) kama, desire, activity of the life of the senses (Sudra stage), (2) artha, gain, fulfilling but controlling the desires (Vaisya stage), (3) dharma, self-discipline, the life of responsibility and right action (Kshatriya stage), (4) moksha, liberation, the life of spirituality and religious teaching (Brahmin stage). These four castes render service to humanity by (1) body, (2) mind, (3) will power, (4) Spirit. "These four stages have their correspondence in the eternal gunas or qualities of nature, tamas, rajas, and sattva: obstruction, activity, and expansion; or, mass, energy, and intelligence. The four natural castes are marked by the gunas as (1) tamas (ignorance), (2) tamas-rajas (mixture of ignorance and activity), (3) rajas-sattva (mixture of right activity and enlightenment), (4) sattva (enlightenment). Thus has nature marked every man with his caste, by the predominance in himself of one, or the mixture of two, of the gunas. Of course every human being has all three gunas in varying proportions. The guru will be able rightly to determine a man's caste or evolutionary status.
Serious evils arose when the caste system became hardened through the centuries into a hereditary halter. Social reformers like Gandhi and the members of very numerous societies in India today are making slow but sure progress in restoring the ancient values of caste, based solely on natural qualification and not on birth. Every nation on earth has its own distinctive misery-producing karma to deal with and remove; India, too, with her versatile and invulnerable spirit, shall prove herself equal to the task of caste-reformation.
"To a certain extent, all races and nations observe in practice, if not in theory, the features of caste. Where there is great license or so-called liberty, particularly in intermarriage between extremes in the natural castes, the race dwindles away and becomes extinct. The Purana Samhita compares the offspring of such unions to barren hybrids, like the mule which is incapable of propagation of its own species. Artificial species are eventually exterminated. History offers abundant proof of numerous great races which no longer have any living representatives. The caste system of India is credited by her most profound thinkers with being the check or preventive against license which has preserved the purity of the race and brought it safely through millenniums of vicissitudes, while other races have vanished in oblivion."
RE:EVERY SOCIETY ALL OVER THE WORLD PRACTICES CASTE SYSTEM IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM
by deetee on May 01, 2007 09:52 PM Permalink
great comment, the article that you listed is also extremely good. Society was to be divided into four Varnas- there is no problem as long as there is mobility between the varnas. It is when the Varnas acquire a genetic basis that discrimination and bias arise. There is nothing basically wrong with the Varna system (very unfairly and incompletely translated as the "caste" system), it is the lacunae in its practise that has led to the problems in Hinduism. Do not blame the philosophy, blame the implementation
RE:EVERY SOCIETY ALL OVER THE WORLD PRACTICES CASTE SYSTEM IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM
by dinesh kumar on May 01, 2007 08:13 PM Permalink
does that mean we cant be different and try to eradicate caste?
RE:EVERY SOCIETY ALL OVER THE WORLD PRACTICES CASTE SYSTEM IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM
by sridhar gorantla on May 01, 2007 08:29 PM Permalink
IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM, WHERE THERE WERE CLASSIFICATIONS BASED PURELY ON CHARACTER OF A PERSON, YOU CANNOT ERADICATE IT, BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THE EVOLUTION AND IT IS INHERENT IN NATURE. YOU CANOT ERADICATE IT.
BUT THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN INDIA, WHERE CASTE IS CONSIDERED BASED PURELY ON BIRTH AND NOT ON THE CHARACTER, IS WRONG AND THIS NEED TO BE CORRECTED AND ALSO THERE ARE ONLY FOUR CLASSIFICATIONS AND NOT SO MANY THAT WE SEE NOW. THESE SO MANY CAME IN TO PRACTICE DUE TO ADULTERATION OF THE ORIGINAL SYSTEM BY SOME SELFISH PEOPLE IN THE RESPONSIBLE POSITION.
INFACT, I WOULD SAY THE TRUE MEANING OF A BRAMHIN IS THAT THE ONE WHO REALIZES PARABRAMHA(UNIVERSAL SOUL) OR ALL PERVADING DIVINITY OR GOD. UNTIL THEN, ANYONE CANNOT BE CONSIDERED AS A BRAMHIN. JUST TAKING BIRTH TO A BRAMHIN DOESNOT GIVE THE PERSON A BRAMHIN STATURE, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT BRAMHIN FAMILIESNOW, SOME PEOPLE WHO WERE BORN IN BRAMHIN FAMILY HAVE THE CHARACTER THAT IS VERY LOW IN VALUES. ALSO, WE FIND PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY GOOD AT CHARACTER, BUT ARE BORN TO A HARIJAN FAMILY. THIS PERSON INDEED IS THE BRAMHIN AS PER THE PRIGINAL CASTE SYSTEM. WE SHOULD RESORT TO THE ORIGINAL CASTE SYSTEM AND NOT TO THE CURRENT SYSTEM. THIS ORIGINAL SYSTEM IS WHAT INHERENTLY EXISTS IN OTHER SOCIETIES TO SOME EXTENT, EVEN THOUGH THEY DONOT REFER TO IT AS A CASTE SYSTEM.
RE:EVERY SOCIETY ALL OVER THE WORLD PRACTICES CASTE SYSTEM IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM
by Purohit Sharma on May 02, 2007 09:13 AM Permalink
Only in India it has attained such an obnoxious form indeed.The real question is social equity...
RE:EVERY SOCIETY ALL OVER THE WORLD PRACTICES CASTE SYSTEM IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM
by dinesh kumar on May 01, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
who will decide the roadmap?
RE:EVERY SOCIETY ALL OVER THE WORLD PRACTICES CASTE SYSTEM IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM
by sridhar gorantla on May 01, 2007 08:48 PM Permalink
THE PEOPLE WILL DECIDE THE ROADMAP. BUT ONE HAS TO EDUCATE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY ARE IN A POSITION TO THINK AND DECIDE RATHER THAN JUST BLINDLY FOLLOW OTHERS OR TAKE HASTY DECISIONS BASED ON HATRED.
SO, THE ONES WHO REALIZED THE TRUTH HAVE TO TAKE THE MESSAGE VIA MEDIA TO THE LARGER MASSES.
RE:EVERY SOCIETY ALL OVER THE WORLD PRACTICES CASTE SYSTEM IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM
by dinesh kumar on May 01, 2007 08:55 PM Permalink
the organisation most qualified to do it and sure to get enormous success if it tries to remove the defects and bring back the true hinduism ,is the rss.it is engaged in spreading hate. the ramakrishna ashram and the isha yoga centre and the art of living are probably enlightening the people. but all of that is different from politics. periyar s movement was to get selfrespect.it was the thing needed at that movement.a person who is oppressed will not wait for the tides of time to bring solutions.an oppressed condition is the seed for revolution.communism in russia and revolution in france were violent. periyars movement was not violent
RE:I may be a childlike
by west on May 01, 2007 08:04 PM Permalink
Humanist - I totally agree with you. I don't understand his postings, mostly questions, at all. I have to see his conclusive postings, yet. Dinesh is a disgust on this thread.
