Re: how?
by shaz on May 13, 2013 06:31 PM
As a matter of fact Amla does receive deducted payments for not wearing liquor brands logo on his clothing. As for rasool, he is being payed by his team owners for his cricketing ability n not for wearing any logos.
Re: Re: how?
by wizardo id on May 13, 2013 06:38 PM
that's perfectly fine solution in a commercial contract. but I'm still not okay with promoting his religion as the best or insinuating others are somehow less religious.
Do these guys have to bring in their religion into everything they do?! These guys kill the joy of sports with their stone age mentality. Now everybody around him would naturally have to walk on eggshells because you never know what else would hurt "hurt" his religious sentiment. By the way his spiritual leaders in Taliban has also banned sports. He should be listening to the and go back to the cave where he came from.
Re: Stop playing!
by wizardo id on May 13, 2013 06:31 PM
well said. today it is this as a pretext. tomorrow it is something else by some other religiously inclined person from another religion!!! we have no dearth of superstitious people in sports, just dont let religion creep into it!
Re: Stop playing!
by shaz on May 13, 2013 06:39 PM
Mr. Akash, following ones religious beliefs is not killing any joy....It is just a matter of faith. He is the same guy who was wrongly arrested and detained for being a terrorist just bcoz of his religion... why did you not blame the heavily biased police force for such a condemnful act then. And for your kind info you half knowledged poor guy, Taliban is not our spiritual force. It is a terrorist organization with political motifs like the RSS/
Re: Re: Stop playing!
by wizardo id on May 13, 2013 06:47 PM
can anyone say why do we need religion in cricket ? or anybody's religious views ? or how religious he is ? no one gives a rat'sass to what his favorite religion is - just how he bats/ bowls or fields. if i wanted a religious leader i'd go to whichever my religious HQ is!!!
Re: Re: Re: hehehehehehe
by wizardo id on May 13, 2013 06:39 PM
hindus dont report to any temple unlike you folks who have to report to ur base station!
Re: Re: Re: Re: hehehehehehe
by aaftab kazi on May 13, 2013 06:55 PM
hehehehehe.ur problem is u runaway from answering the question and starts counter questioning
Re: hehehehehehe
by Connan on May 13, 2013 09:31 PM
It is called a free society as opposed to a mind controlled society. In a free society people are free to do what they want as long as it does not encroach on other peoples rights. I know slam brain washes you guys so much that you cant think anymore.
Re: what had been the reaction
by wizardo id on May 13, 2013 06:06 PM
all hell would have broken loose. all the sickular politicians would have pounced on that hapless guy!
Yes, there are so many evils and injustice happening in the world in the name of religion, caste, nationality, race etc. Now let's not put the burden of it in Parvez's shoulder. Parvez's belief didn't allow him to be associated with alchohol, and he opted for not displaying the logo, when he had to choose not to play or 'hide' the ad and play, both will have adverse repurcussion on him.
I think BCCI should be pragmatic and at least not promote liquor in this country. I don't want to go on a debate on whether it's good or bad or should be banned etc, but given a chance, most of our players may not endorse it. Most of the holy scriptures such as Vedas, Bible, Quran etc ban alchohol consumption.
In India, it's not allowed to advertise alchohol products, but as like most of our laws, it has loop holes, and these companies makes use of it. If we think logically, if alchohol products cannot be advertised, law should make sure that the same brand names are not used for other products and advertised.
Personally, I appreciate Parvez's action, and would like to see more 'influencial' players coming out in the open. If we have to progress as a country and be united, we all should reach out to others and try to inculcate a system where we all move towards the betterment of society. Discouraging alchohol consumption could be a good move to start with.
Re: Morality is supreme than Legality
by wizardo id on May 13, 2013 06:08 PM
while I agree with you, mr. rasool should have refrained from dragging in religion. that totally undid his intentions. one can object to alcohol, but without bringing in religious issues. that's a completely different domain and a very sensitive one
Re: Re: Morality is supreme than Legality
by vinay on May 13, 2013 06:32 PM
actually even in other religions liquor is not allowed. bt how many of them r really following n implementing it. if rasool is following then its admirable.
Re: Re: Re: Morality is supreme than Legality
by wizardo id on May 13, 2013 06:34 PM
which other religion ? also, why cite religion ? how many concessions can be made on religious lines ? why bring in barriers into sport ? someone may say i can wear only green, others might say I can wear anything else but green. dude, you are cutting into politics
Re: Re: Re: Re: Morality is supreme than Legality
by M Rafi on May 13, 2013 06:48 PM
I think we are missing the wood for the trees here. His religion is what he's believing in. Why should we have problem as long as he's not imposing his beliefs on us. We can’t progress by religious hatred, we can only progress when we are tolerant and build understanding between us.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Morality is supreme than Legality
by wizardo id on May 13, 2013 06:54 PM
I think you are missing the point. him being religious is absolutely fine. but if others can object to alcohol without bringing in their religion - so can he
Re: His career sealed before started
by kiran kumar on May 13, 2013 06:19 PM
I am not sure about Liquor brands. But, ITC off late has pulled off the gas from Tobacco marketing. It is diverting itself from tobacco market. If you look at brands like sunfeast or aashirwad, there is hardly any influence of brand ITC or tobacco on it.
I think,we people are poking too much our nose into a personal decision of a player. I know, he is doing so purely because of his religious prohibitions, but what i believe is, he should not have dragged religion into all this.And also, we should respect the decision of an individual for endorsing/rejecting a brand for any particular reason.
Re: Why the fuss???
by wizardo id on May 13, 2013 06:03 PM
no he made a public statement about him & his religion being special. as if he means the rest of them are drunkards, and other's religions are intolerant to drinking and its issues. he somehow insinuates that he's superior to others and he's the only one wearing his religion on his sleeve. if zaheer khan and irfan khan had no issues with such trivial things, why is this man feels he's special ?
Re: hehehehehehe
by wizardo id on May 13, 2013 05:51 PM
kazisaab, dragging religion will only stoke others to wear religion on their sleeve. are you okay with the rest of the team wearing saffron and him alone in green ? that is what I am talking about... why wear your religion ? religion is private
Re: Re: Re: hehehehehehe
by wizardo id on May 13, 2013 06:22 PM
hohohoho why justify it with only his religion ? why din't hehehe zaheheher khan or azaruddin object similarly ?
Re: hehehehehehe
by Subhajyoti Majumder on May 13, 2013 05:56 PM
the move is great no doubt even sushil kumar turned down advertisement offer from royal stag. more than religion sports persons are idols for youth. but if rasool is doing only for his faith he shud have done it silently. allah / bhagwan would have known. there was no need to tell this and get cheap publicity based on religious lines.
Re: Re: hehehehehehe
by aaftab kazi on May 13, 2013 06:10 PM
hehehehehe.how can he did that silently ? what will he tell to that wine co ? he has to tell them the exact reason
Re: Re: Re: hehehehehehe
by wizardo id on May 13, 2013 06:23 PM
hohoho, hehehe he can do it privately and not announce to the world that he belongs to such and such a religion and he follows it faithfully. when all he could have said was - "i'm not into alcohol"
