Re: WAY TO GO SACHIN....
by abdul narayan on Jul 30, 2010 07:57 PM
Actually god wanted fools like you to watch sachin play that is why he invented cricket.
With age he is getting better. Till now he has took us to World cup Final,semi finals but next year with his experience he is going to win us World cup. I would like him to play as long as possible.
Re: I disagree with Sachin
by Sonal Mathur on Jul 30, 2010 07:12 PM
i agree with the statement .... men do get a lot better, wiser and perform well with age :)
Re: I disagree with Sachin
by Sanjay M on Jul 30, 2010 07:20 PM
If that happens all the credit goes to Sachin. Which could be annoying to many players in the team. So it is impossible for India to get world cup this year.
Re: I disagree with Sachin
by Desi on Jul 30, 2010 07:35 PM
Although I too very much want India to win the WC, I do not see it happening because first of all cricket is a team game and not a one man show!!
Second we lack incisive, penetrative bowlers who can break an opening batting patnership. Usually an ODI team's best batsmen are 1234 and we lack bowlers who can capture a couple of quick wickets inside of the first ten overs. And the most damning statistic is that Sachin has NEVER played a BIG BATSMAN's role in ANY FINAL that INDIA has played. Atleast if we reach the Final next year, he has a channce to erase this glaring black mark on his career!
Re: Re: I disagree with Sachin
by Free Free on Jul 30, 2010 07:51 PM
"Sachin has NEVER played a BIG BATSMAN's role in ANY FINAL that INDIA has played"
Maybe then the team needs to thank him for getting him into the final & then remaining 10 should take responsibility for at least win 1 game without him or ur saying even thats not possible?
- I agree new fellows need to be given a chance. - For that, evaluate 6 batsman in the current line up and start replacing bootom two based on performance. - Based on SRT performance for past several years (or even if you just take current performnca only), he is not in bottom two list of performers, so question should not be raised about his place in the team. - Age doesn't matter as long as you perform. This is not just the curent argumet since he is in good form, he never had a bad patch in his carreer where hs was in the bottom 2 list of batsman in the team!! - As far as Ganguly, it was his performance (or non-performance) that led to his retirement & not age!!! (check records...towards the end of his carreer. Yes, he was a good captain but first you need to deserve a place in the team based on self performance; you can not be in the team just because you are a good captain!!!)
Re: Only Performance should count..response to Keshari
by Sanjay M on Jul 30, 2010 07:21 PM
Rule number 1: play cricket to win Rule number 2: play cricket with youngsters to win
Re: Re: Only Performance should count..response to Keshari
by Sameer on Jul 30, 2010 07:41 PM
rule 3 : make sure the so called youngsters deserve their place
Re: Re: Re: Only Performance should count..response to Keshari
by Sanjay M on Jul 30, 2010 07:55 PM
rule no 4: win or loose youngsters should play rule no 5: loose but youngstes should play
Re: Congrats on the 200 ....
by C M on Jul 30, 2010 07:52 PM
You mean every match one should hit Double..?? His second innings(84) was good in 1st test too..couldnt save the match though...Wht other 10 are doing then..?? Your 2 cents dont even worth 1/2 cent ...
Re: Re: Congrats on the 200 ....
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 31, 2010 03:43 AM
so why could not sachin score those 84 in the first innings? we could have saved the follow on drawn the first test match?
Re: Congrats on the 200 ....
by Sanjay M on Jul 30, 2010 07:24 PM
Yeah so bad sachin. Why didn't you score 200 hundred in the first test. Wait a min why 200 , why not 400! Sachin, you disappointed us!!!
How come people forget their own stances & words, this statement of sachin shows how desperate he is for getting his records. Where was Mr Tendulkar, when ganguly was going through the same phase. All & sundry where behind ganguly to quit cricket, where as that was the best year in his cricketing life, he too was able to perform & infact was India's best batsman (as far as scores are concerned) during that last year. It's a fact of life that when it comes to one's own, he start to give logics. Just look at the threat you are creating to indian test team sachin, because of you still lingering on (so as to achieve your personal record of smashing 50 test tons & achieve that elusive 300, or also may be an eye on the highest test score of lara) today we are hollow as far as "who's next for middle order?" is concerned.Rather than giving chances to players like, pujara, raina, rohit, yuvraj, kaif (mind you he is a genuine contender) we are just ignoring them. Not allowing them to start or develop into a good test batsman. India aims for No1 spot in tests, but what will happen in coming year or so, when finally sachin(after getting self satisfied that he has all the possible records to his name) will quit. We will be left with a middle order who will be totally naive to test cricket. A person doesn't become gr8 only by contributing on-field, just have a look at your idol, Mr Gavaskar, he left when he was
Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by C M on Jul 30, 2010 07:35 PM
Keshari...Why shall SRT speak for Ganguli...??? He is talking about himself which is fair..And Did Ganguali hit double at 37 at all...?? Ganguli played well in his last series but his performance was poor prior to taht for sure..but that totally diff topic of debate...Selection comitte is quiet capabale of taking care of Team India in coming years ..if they need your expert opinion they sure will call you, Submit your resume to them...Your so called list of batsman each of those are dieing to play WITH Srt and not at the expense of him...And you know what you can rant and rave ...SRT will play till he wants to..Do whatever you want to do ...
Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by manish keshari on Jul 30, 2010 07:43 PM
It makes me laugh. I really fail to understand that how can people get so volatile and don't understand the idea behind such forums. I just felt to express my opinion, why are you getting so personal.Feel pity for you. Anyways, I liked your response.
Re: Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by C M on Jul 30, 2010 07:58 PM
Sure U and eveyone need to express opinion..I do agree with that.No No Nothing personal.If i like ur opinion, I will sure appreciate it...And i do udnerstand your long term thinking about Team Ind but whts the point expecting the BEST performaer to retire..?? And We all have seen green horns loosing badly tooo..There has to be good mix of experienced and new players...And come on you really think SRT should have spoken for Dada...??
Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by manish keshari on Jul 30, 2010 08:04 PM
hmmmm...well your point is rite, even i dont want the best performer (not only for india, but in this calendar year, he is the best in world) not to be a part of the team. Its just that i felt bad, when today SRT is saying this, people are agreeing with him, but when ganguly had said the same, they were against him. My personal belief is that performance matters & nothing else, but also i really think that our future in tests is not going in rite direction. younger ones needs to be given a chance. other wise we will be in a tuf situation.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by C M on Jul 30, 2010 11:48 PM
Well I liked Saurav ...But honestly speaking his performance was going down ,Of course he rose again but it was kinda little late ..Selectores are constantly looking out for good local performances...We might just read stats...btu they are deployed to many matches to see it personally..And they do have plan..Some plans backfires..E.g.Dinesh Mongia..Chateshwar,Rohit,Utthappa many young new guys which are future of Ind team..But unfortunately there is fierce competation (Which is good too)...But pal if ppl didnt agree with Ganguly but now agree with SRT is that his fault..?? afterall the guy is proving himself over and over...In this whole year 6 test, 5 centuries, Did ganguly has that kinda performance in his best year ...??
Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by Sanjay M on Jul 30, 2010 07:11 PM
'he too was able to perform & infact was India's best batsman' Which Ganguly are yo talking about.. you mean the ex-cricketer?
Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by manish keshari on Jul 30, 2010 07:15 PM
i think you didnt read properly, for your info this was the line, "he too was able to perform & infact was India's best batsman (as far as scores are concerned) during that last year." My only point is that sachin is an all time great batsman, but he needs to think & contribute for a good future of indian cricket as well.
Re: Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by rahul sharma on Jul 30, 2010 07:28 PM
how many cricketers are cementing his position even Yuvi is not performing well after Saurav.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by manish keshari on Jul 30, 2010 07:35 PM
Apart from yuvi, no one has been given chances & time to adapt to rigors of international test cricket. Agreed yuvi is not upto the mark, so thats what i want say, unless you will try out options, you wont be able to see whether he can be at national team or not.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by C M on Jul 30, 2010 08:05 PM
If u see last few years Apart from Yuvi, Gautam, Veeru , Badani, Jafar, Kaif ..many given chances..rememeber we were almost about to loose Gautam and Veeru too..they jumped back..i feel sorry for kaif...but when u r not in national team one has to perfrom much better in local matches...i only have trouble with one name ..and thats Dinesh Mongia..That guy wasted everything...@WC He was given chance at the expense of Laxman...Fatal mistakle or too much confidence on green horns THEN..?? just my opinion
Re: Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by Sanjay M on Jul 30, 2010 07:26 PM
as if Ganguly thought and contributed or what? dude, Ganguly did his best to cling on to the team. Anyways, I am impressed by your patient reply. Cheers mate.
Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by sujith karun on Jul 30, 2010 07:12 PM
Totally agree with you..
Sachin is no more accumalating runs at a pace needed for the team, or at a pace to befit his title of "GOD" or "Greatest batsman ever".. His slow grining innings meant India couldnt win the match.. This is what happens when people play only for records.. And as far as age and performances are concerned: Steve waugh retired at the top of his form Lara did the same Murali we all know... Great players retire when they are still great, and also to let some grooming happen..
But dont expect to see any of that from the "selfish" self proclaimed "GOD".
Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by Free Free on Jul 30, 2010 07:34 PM
@sujith - If u really thought there was ne possibility to win this game then u have no idea bout cricket. His 200 was a match saver, thats wat was required, it wasnt a inning meant to win the game. U dont chase 600 score & win a game in subcontinent specially with a lousy bowling attack. Keep ur uneducated opinion to urself
Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by Sameer on Jul 30, 2010 07:43 PM
yeah his slow innings which happens to be the 2nd slowest after sehwag .. anything else dimwit sujit ?
Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by Sanjay M on Jul 30, 2010 07:14 PM
leave Sachin, Saching got out in the first test, what about other batsmen? What about you? I think you play well too
Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by C M on Jul 30, 2010 07:40 PM
Karun yede....Steve was removed even he wanted to play bit more, Lara was tired of WI cricket borad politics and he had enough of it anyways...Murali retired he was tired pf playing cricket and he is at TOP poition as far as bowling concerns..He chose to retire so he can prolong 2020 /IPL career...monitory reasons which is perfectly fine...So stop licking foreigners all the time ....SRT will retire when he wants to and when he feels he is not contributing enough fo Team IND....And yeah borrow any dictionery and chk meanign of selfprocalimed ...and show me any single incident SRT said it....Moron get life...
Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by abcdefg on Jul 30, 2010 07:18 PM
ur suggestion is crap and baseless. whjere the heck do u get such 3rd grd ides. shjut up ashol
Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by Rick Shaw on Jul 30, 2010 07:13 PM
- I agree new fellows need to be given a chance. - For that, evaluate 6 batsman in the current line up and start replacing bootom two based on performance. - Based on SRT performance for past several years (or even if you just take current performnca only), he is not in bottom two list of performers, so question should not be raised about his place in the team. - Age doesn't matter as long as you perform. This is not just the curent argumet since he is in good form, he never had a bad patch in his carreer where hs was in the bottom 2 list of batsman in the team!! - As far as Ganguly, it was his performance (or non-performance) that led to his retirement & not age!!! (check records...towards the end of his carreer. Yes, he was a good captain but first you need to deserve a place in the team based on self performance; you can not be in the team just because you are a good captain!!!)
Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by naman SHARMA on Jul 30, 2010 07:29 PM
What an abosolute idiot the writer of this post is. Are u an ARTS graduate who cant read numbers! How can u write such things about a man who has got 6 Centuries in last 6 mnths! None of the batting greats u mention lara included got that in the best period of their careers
Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by manish keshari on Jul 30, 2010 07:39 PM
@Naman & abcdefg: I think first of all, you are not even educated, as you are proving through the way you are responding. Guess this forum is meant to express one's opinion & view, some may agree & some may disagree. I like that you disagree with my view, but guess had you been properly educated, you would have known how to behave on such a forum.
Re: Re: Re: Think about future of country Sachin
by C M on Jul 30, 2010 07:43 PM
Keshari, So you are a prof of Behavioural science or what...?? If someone thinks your opinion is stupid enough he/she has right to express his/her opinion to counter your opinion ...Take it or leave it...Intellegent opinions are always respected even though there are some disagreements...
I hope all the losers out there just leave him alone. Rather, it would be good if they start learning from him how to aim to be a world beater. Hope Sachin plays for a lot many years.
ya its the first time i felt a slight hint of arrogance in sachins statement,..though what he said is true i just dint expect him to come across so strongly..was a bit taken aback when he said that to tony greig..anyway for me he is god and will always be
Re: for the first time
by C M on Jul 30, 2010 07:46 PM
correct observation..I totally agree with you..I am bit taken aback too..SRT usually don't say it...I think it was botehring him too much..But double ton itself has shut critics mouth...Didnt need to say anything about age at all...He is going great...
Re: for the first time
by C M on Jul 30, 2010 07:48 PM
I would call it strong defence...not hint of arrogance ...(but yeah may be becoz i like him too much)
