Why is no one is saying anything about Dravid? I do not recall him making a big score in long time, everyone is after tendulkar. I am sure if tendulkar had scored like Dravid in this series, all hell would have broken loose. I think captaincy is affecting his game
RE:Why not Dravid
by Raja Ivaturi on Aug 11, 2007 02:11 AM
Looks like Dravid is the only one who plays for India. I like Dravid but nowadays it is very irritating to see as if he is the only selfless cricketer. First of all can u explain what does it mean by playing for India? Can we say Dravid played for India in this series or even in SA series? What is the basis for all this rubbish talk? I want to know if A B works for India rather than for himself. Cricket is a profession and everyone is playing for a fee. I dont think Dravid is playing free of cost. All are playing in such a way that they are selected in the team regularly. Dravid is no exception.
RE:Southies are the best ..
by amit apte on Aug 11, 2007 02:23 AM
I think Mr/Ms A B is the most disgusting person. Team India is for the country of India. Kumble is the player of Indian team and he played very well and he has done that many times. He plays for India and not South India. So non-sense person stop your bong, and northies, and ghatis.
Why is it that we always need to fight always about every issue on this board?? Any other country would have celebrated the fact that a team performed like a team. And that we are winning a Test series in England after so many years. Guys celebrate this moment. We, Indians know that for us, celebration like this comes only once in a while. Forget petty differences and think positive. Enough of this northie, southie, bong, etc etc crap. :))
RE:Lets be different
by AK47 on Aug 11, 2007 01:14 AM
Never count your chickens before they are hatched!! We have still NOT WON this test series!! England can score 500 and say bowl India out for less than 150 in 4th innings!! Then anything can happen!! Wait until the end of tom, only then we would be able to assess the situation!! I know it is a very long shot, maybe 99% India are there!! But that 1% makes cricket a sport of glorious uncertainties!!
RE:Lets be different
by us on Aug 11, 2007 01:21 AM
Kumble should play another 15 years so that India can see another Test century from him. Spineless Dravid wanted to see Kumble Batsman better than himself. Kumble did it..... Kumble now should take Captaincy from Dravid.....!!
By the way this is sure Draw match... get ready to celebrate with greatest Captain Dravid.
RE:Lets be different
by Mahesh Dave on Aug 11, 2007 01:45 AM
Yes...and also "Great Chicken-Selsish Tendala" should have to play 20 more years so "Tundalu" can make more century against Bangaladesh,Kenya,Barmuda,Nepal,Canada,USA and china in future......
RE:Good:Sachin Jerkoff didn't score a cent 100. Else, losing is 100%
by Hemal Patel on Aug 11, 2007 12:46 AM
What are you saying, your comments have no objectivity only emotions.
RE:Good:Sachin Jerkoff didn't score a cent 100. Else, losing is 100%
by Vishwanathan vishu on Aug 11, 2007 12:57 AM
your bull shits. no understanding of cricket. you know when he came india where 150 and above and when he departed india where nearing 500. he stayed and anchored one end. and staying in the crease in test takes a lot.
RE:Good:Sachin Jerkoff didn't score a cent 100. Else, losing is 100%
by indranil mitra on Aug 11, 2007 01:08 AM
Why is it that we always need to fight always about every issue on this board?? Any other country would have celebrated the fact that a team performed like a team. And that we are winning a Test series in England after so many years. Guys celebrate this moment. We, Indians know that for us, celebration like this comes only once in a while. Forget petty differences and think positive. Enough of this northie, southie, bong, etc etc crap. :))
RE:Kumble
by Kaushik Basu on Aug 11, 2007 01:11 AM
A captain has to take decision as per the situation. Their India had to Win remember it was the first test and India had to force the pace. Here India is already 1 up in the series. They only need a draw. So longer the players plays better it is. I don't any fault in either of the decisions.
RE:Kumble
by Justin Time on Aug 11, 2007 12:37 AM
You're right ! Rahul waited all his life to promote Kumble as a better batsman than Sachin. Next time, it will be when Kumble goes past Sachin's record for number of centuries.
RE:RE:Kumble
by s deshpande on Aug 11, 2007 01:54 AM
Sachin was too slow in that match. He was playing for himself and not for the team. Dravid had no alternative but to declare then. Dravid has guts to take such decision. When Sachin was offered captainship, he had disappeared for 2 days in Lonavala. With all due respect to him, Sachin does not anymore play for the team. Dravid is a very good captain really. Congratulations to Kumble on his 1st hundred. Somebody has written a letter above (without name) that Kumble is a better batsman than Dravid! Ridiculous! Just one century does not make him that.
RE:Kumble
by punga naale on Aug 11, 2007 02:46 AM
hey deshpande do u know how much hard work and pain it takes to make a double hundred? if somebody have taken the pain to reach 195 then he deserves 200 no matter how slow he was. You know India wins 87% of the matches when sachin scores and he shouldnt be deprived of making a ton jus because of 5 runs. His records make me proud and no matter whatever happens he will be the best batsman in the world. Way to go sachin.
RE:Kumble
by vishnu shyamala on Aug 11, 2007 02:27 AM
I totally agree with what Dravid has done today. It was a genuine innings from kumble without giving any chances. If you remember properly sachin just needed 6 runs for 200. He hardly got 3 or 4 balls in last 4-5 overs. yuvaraj was playing well at the other end. Do u think one or two more overs will make a big change??? By the expression of Sachin that day it was clear that he was unaware of declaration. Not a fan for any individual. What he did on that day was a big mistake by not supporting his teammate. Will Dravid do the same if he is on the same score??? I don%u2019t think so? No one in the world will do that. If u think Lara, Dravid, Atapattu and Ricky are the best test batsmen of this era, each of them played more than 120 tests that means more than 200 test innings and they scored 9,5,6,4 double centuries respectively%u2026u can see the conversion ratio%u2026. scoring a 200 in pakistan against pakis is obviously a dream not only for Sachin...its a dream for every Indian.
RE:Kumble
by George Thomas on Aug 11, 2007 01:00 AM
What is better as per u? India losses the match and tendulkar gets a 200 or India wins the match evenif he losses a ton? I can remind u what Mathew Hayden commented about indian cricket players. ie Few Indian Players as well FANs like u are more concerned about individual records than Teams winning
RE:Kumble
by AK47 on Aug 11, 2007 12:58 AM
He is indeed a wonderful human being!! It is only the Bongs in this blog who have created a negative villain image about Dravid!!
What are you trying to say Mr Aditya?? That Dravid deliberately declared to prevent Tendulkar from getting his double?? Do you think he is so mean?? The fact that the WALL is one of the nicest guys is known to most!! Yet people like you will find fault with him!! Look in the mirror yourself!
RE:Kuble's century
by Justin Time on Aug 11, 2007 12:38 AM
No thanks ! We do not 'hero worship' unlike many others, in case you have'nt noticed. But yes, we will give him credit where due.
Kumble should play another 15 years so that India can see another Test century from him. Spineless Dravid wanted to see Kumble Batsman better than himself. Kumble did it..... Kumble now should take Captaincy from Dravid.....!!
Missing a ton is acceptable if he had scored at a scorching rate say 90 runs in hundred balls. India wins only when fails to score a century. So good omen
RE:Tendilkar missing his ton
by srikanth on Aug 11, 2007 12:32 AM
To all sachin haters
Why the hell u people r bothered abt strike rate in a TEST match!!!!!! Do u really understand TEST match cricket!!!! If u really saw his innings, the bowlers were targetting his rib cage. Most of the balls were short pitch deliveries. The important thing is he played sheet anchor role. The role which Dravid used to play. And today he was aggressive. He is playing according to the situation. Imagine if he got out trying to improve scoring rate yesterday. We could have lost many wickets after his departure. Moreover, he is playing the role which might have already discussed with the team. If the team wants him to be aggresive he'll be. Hope somebody accept my arguement.
RE:Tendilkar missing his ton
by shibojyoti banerjee on Aug 11, 2007 01:01 AM
I really accept ur talk......it is some of our gray matter less people who some time talk about any particular culture to make it the scape goat.....for the failure of Indian team.....Who the hell are the guys to talk about bong culture..as well talk about dravidian culture when analyzing the cricket team's performance???? so narrow minded we are!!!! Any way...the best captain in the Indian cricket history is S.C. Ganguly...and he is a Bong....The first movement against the British was also started in the Bengal....so please...dont utter a single word against the bong.....
RE:Tendilkar missing his ton
by Vivek Krishna on Aug 11, 2007 12:58 AM
Fine.What was the role was given to Tendulkar?To hang in there and be on crease on Day 2 to increase morale of the batsmen to follow. It was well and good and he made the task look simple.
But after batting for an hour or so he could have gone and started to play his game and score some quick runs. He didn't do it. He seemed out of sorts just like in 2nd innings of Trent bridge. all of a sudden he seems a genius and then suddenly falters like a fool. Any way the Indians showed that it doesn't need tendulkar to score big runs in order to post a huge total. Way to Go and Thanks Sachin...
RE:RE:Tendilkar missing his ton
by Vishal on Aug 11, 2007 01:42 AM
Vivek Jione century does not make Kumble a bastman...still u dont have repalcement for DADA,SACHIN and DRAVID .. when u hv then give ur absurd comments
RE:Tendilkar missing his ton
by on Aug 11, 2007 01:09 AM
yes srikant i am totally agreed with you.one of the most important thing you have mentioned that ..this is all about test cricket. once i have read a article, Ian Bottham said that the people who are looking to tell smthing abt sachin and try to put sm expert coments on his techniques and approach.. they should go to a cave in a jungle. if schine got out yesterday, than today we are not able to enjoy dhoni and kumble...and
RE:RE:Tendilkar missing his ton
by ankit sharma on Aug 11, 2007 01:00 AM
hi, its good to see some people think before saying something. i completely agree with you.
RE:RE:Tendilkar missing his ton
by Rajesh Shastri on Aug 11, 2007 12:36 AM
I agree with you srikanth. It was a well paced innings. No team will have all 11 players scoring at more than 100% strike rate. Everybody played well in this match. Well done to India.
When Sachin Tendulkar was stranded on 194 at Multan after Dravid declared with India at 675 for 5, Tendulkar went to the press and gave way to his surprise and ire directed at Dravid!! The fact that he missed his double was not taken with good grace!!
But i can confidently say that even if Dravid had declared with Kumble stranded, Kumble would have taken it with good grace and moved on!! Surely he would not have made an issue out of it!!
One is a selfish guy who puts personal records above team goals and the other is a teamman to the core!!
In this match, the 82 he scored took 192 deliveries!! The wicket was so good, so flat, that even Sreesanth was looking like a top order player!!
Yet the "Master" played as if there were devils in the pitch!! What more can i say????????
RE:The difference between Tendulkar and Kumble!!
by Yash Vyavaharkar on Aug 11, 2007 12:30 AM
You obviously have not played the game at any competitive level to understand it well enough. What we really needed was someone to play the anchor role and I think Sachin did it really well. You should see the figures for the partnerships he was part of. Had he tried to play aggressively and lost his wicket in the bargain do you think any one of the others would have been able to play as freely as he did? And you compare Sreesanth's innings to his...you obviously don't realise how easy it is for a tailender to come in and swing his bat with 600 runs on the board as compared to a top order batsman who has to build the innings for the team. Bottom line....Sachin was the spine of the innings and you should analyze your thoughts a little before making such strong statements!!
RE:The difference between Tendulkar and Kumble!!
by Yash Vyavaharkar on Aug 11, 2007 12:50 AM
There's no denying the fact that his game changed a great deal in past few years. I agree he is not the same aggressive player he once was. The point I'm making is this does not make him any less effective. If you guys don't see the importance of his 192 ball 82, so be it. It was the backbone of our innings and I'm sure even Kumble, Karthik or Dhoni would be the first to say that....
RE:The difference between Tendulkar and Kumble!!
by AK47 on Aug 11, 2007 12:35 AM
MR Yash Vyavaharkar, you have given an excue that he played a sheet anchor role!! But Sachin's natural game, all these years was an attacking one where he would tear to shreds any bowling attack in the world!! The sheet anchor role was left to Dravid and VVS!! So why is he playing that role now?? Shouldn't he be destroying the bowling and scoring at a brisk rate?? I might not have played cricket at any competitive level, but i do understand the game well enough to say that his style of play has changed a lot over the last two years!!
RE:RE:The difference between Tendulkar and Kumble!!
by Vishal on Aug 11, 2007 01:54 AM
mr ak47 by having name like ak47 does not make u an ak47..i guess u r mentally sick ...roles change with time and same with Sachin .. u cant Sachin to bat as he used to when he was 18...even today u dont have a batmans of his claibre in our team...KEEP UR MOUTH SHUT WITH UR STUPID ANALSIS
RE:RE:RE:The difference between Tendulkar and Kumble!!
by AK47 on Aug 11, 2007 02:07 AM
Roles do not neccesarily chnage with time, rather the style of play generally does not change!! Mr Vshal, you are talking like an absolute idiot who has no apreciation of all the aspects of a game, like a half cooked fool!! Viv Richards never changed his style of play, Brian Lara never changed his style!! Aus captain Ricky Ponting has been playing for 12 years and he never changed his style of play!! So don't make stupid sweeping statements that suit you! Keep your half baked knowledge to yourself and do shut your sti*nking trap!! There are people who are more well informed than you out here!!
Ill tempered language can be used by neone, you should know where a response ceases to be angry and abrasive but cordial and where it begins to be ill-mannered!!
RE:The difference between Tendulkar and Kumble!!
by Suchin Shetty on Aug 11, 2007 02:33 AM
dear goofbag AK47 ..... talking about lara , it was he who in the desire for the world record didn't declare the innings and waited till he got to his 400. Everyone does not have the same physical capacity. Tendulkar has lost lot of his physical strength due to injuries.... Lara/richards didn't have to contend with half the injuries tendy had. They also didn't have to carry the burden of a billion hopes when ever they went to play. Ak47 .... please keep your teenage logic to yourself. You do not possess any form of cricketing talent and can never play at the international level. You have 0 rights to judge others when you aren't even remotely close to their level.
RE:The difference between Tendulkar and Kumble!!
by AK47 on Aug 11, 2007 02:42 AM
Dear du*nder headed mo*ron Suchin shetty, you are talking as if you have played at the gulli level!! A pa*nsy loser like you, i guess, is not fit enough to even lift a bat, let alone play any shots!! You are better off su*cking your thumb, my dear!! Your argument is highly illogical, yet going by your logic, even you should not be commenting about Lara cos you are not good enough to even tie his sh*oelac*es, am i right?? A guy like you is probably fit in the co*nci*erge area, even then, you might bungle big time, or goofup, in your words!! So, keep your wisecracks to yourself!! Ignorant sc*um, Lara had more than his fair share of injuries and Ponting had a serious groin and knee injury, he missed 3 tests in India due to a major injury!! So don't advertise your the fact that you are bereft of cricketing knowledge!! Make a start with gu*lli danda and get back in this forum!! Kiddo, you just made a fool of yourself, pathetic a*s*s*h*o*l*e!!
RE:The difference between Tendulkar and Kumble!!
by Siddharth Gollapudi on Aug 11, 2007 12:57 AM
Agreed that his style of play has changed over the past few years but how does it matter when the runs have helped India pile on a mammoth total. Anyways Dhoni is there to do those slam bang action nowadays. So i guess it was a pretty good innings played according to the situation and not according to you.
RE:The difference between Tendulkar and Kumble!!
by pankaj mahipat on Aug 11, 2007 12:59 AM
Mr.AK47, mere calling oneself as AK47, does not mean that u can shoot, my dear, i felt u hv a little subject reg. the game of cricket and ofcourse, reg. Sachin, is it not childish on ur part to think the way u did... i really pity such people with such subject of the game and Sachin, anyways, try to be a bit more sensible man and get to know the game well.
RE:The difference between Tendulkar and Kumble!!
by Yash Vyavaharkar on Aug 11, 2007 01:26 AM
One last thing...any Sachin doubters go listen to David Llyod's comments on cricinfo talk. You'll hear him making the same point as I did...
