Ravi,a hindu,marries Maria,a christian,whereby his son and daughter are no more hindu,by the doctrines of the dharma,which does not pave way for any relaxation for any individual's violation of codes!The dharma is for all , provided he honours the doctrines of the dharma, with no self desire fulfilments!(Ravi fulfilled self desire by choosing to marry Maria, a violation of 'hindu doctrine.H e will remain hindu but his wards will not be! H e is not debarred to perform the rites as per 'hindu dharma'but not in a temple!Because that will be a relaxation!)If relaxation is granted, the thousands others who follow it rigidly,their disciline and hardship is put to the mat! Let Ravi perform 'hindu' ritesin his private place! But in a community place of 'hindus', with longstanding rituals performed with physical sanctity,he cannot! There is no licence to the priests or the management to ignore it! In 'hinduism'there are millions of methods provided for different categories, and this style is one for the common man with limited abilities! It is a following of 'shastras', no human creation! Today, ill conceived "secularism" thinks, it can do anything to anybody! After all Ravi is not GOD!And the millions who follow the 'shastric doctrines are not'cheap fools' to be ignored! So the sentiment of Ravi is unjustified!If his son goes to court,court will say "hindus rituals' should be honoured in a 'true secularism"! If number plays the game, then dear men, who say against it may hear! By arr
RE:An attack on 'hindu rituals
by JK on Jun 04, 2007 08:14 PM Permalink
You Moron who was Maria a few hundred years back? Do you think Maria's forefathers are from Germany? They were born hindus who converted after the british settled in India and can you tell me who a real Hindu is? In villages in.India Hindu people have their own deities. They dd not pray Vishnu or Shiva or Krishna a hundred years back. They prayed to their local deity. All these diferences between Gods is a product of fundamentalism in the last 2 decades. In my own village we pray our local deity which our ancestors prayed for a thousand years and that deity comes first for any function in our family. So dont be a Hindu fanatic. Your own ancestors are no different.
RE:An attack on 'hindu rituals
by Utpal Dutta on Jun 04, 2007 10:00 PM Permalink
Both Jk and Surya! you must know your limited vision,limited abilities,limited knowledge and the last point a very limited wisdom! Have you ever driven on a long and (appearing) straight route,where your vision does not reach beyond more than 8 kilometers?You see the road straight! But when you drive 100 kms, you find the sun has come from right side to the left side! Why ? Any idea? Its your incomplete knowledge! The straight road is an illusion!The curve is so fine that you take it as straight! You are taken aback! Any half knowledge brings facts that way! Here, in Ravi's matter, you dont know about the developments and comment! There is no bar for Ravi to do the 'hindu rites' because he is hindu and the head of the family, but can't do it a publicly worshipped temple where 'mandir sanctity' is in question!Violation of that is an attack!Maria might have been a hindu long ago, but once you leave it wilfully or forcibly, you are reated as a class called 'mlechchha', who also can worship but in a prescribed manner!One who is not folllowing the doctrines and at the same time wants the 'hindu' tratment by the temple authority is nothing but 'arrogant', which'secularism' does not permit. And in 'sanatan dharma (salled hinduism)'the GOD,almighty takes many appearances , all of which are representing HIM and all worships reach HIM! So as you say " All these diferences between Gods is a product of fundamentalism in the last 2 decades" IS YOUR IGNORANCE! IF YOU CARE TO READ 'SRIMAD
RE:An attack on 'hindu rituals
by Surya on Jun 04, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
JK Moron,
Do you think if you go few centuries back hindus are hindus they were humans so is everybody.No reason now to think of past to only particular point.Lets go to more back in time.Fundamentalism from all religoins inclusing Hindus.
RE:RE:An attack on 'hindu rituals
by Utpal Dutta on Jun 04, 2007 10:16 PM Permalink
You said (1)"our ancestors prayed for a thousand years and that deity comes first for any function in our family" (2)"All these diferences between Gods is a product of fundamentalism " Its not fundamentalism! Its your lack of knowledge! Your ancestors did correctly , as the Almighty GOD,takes shape or appearance, as the worshiper worships! You read"SRIMAD BHAGABADGITA", now available, translated, in many languages and read world over,and your knowledge will improve! Best wishes for you and wishing a speedy recovery of your correct knowledge!
