The govt. is paying Rs. 12 lakh/acre for land at singur. This is very high as many people think. But for 900 acre land, I saw there are 13,000 farmers who donated their land.
So a simple average calculation says that there are 14-15 farmers per acre land and in that case each receive less than one lakh.
If each farmer is assumed to be a head of a family of 3-4 dependants then how much does each receive??
These fertile lands are a source of perpetual income to these poor farmers who are unskilled and just marginally literate...they can't do other jobs also We are leaving them to begging..
Can you imagine yourself being given such a paltry sum and asked to refrain yourself from our skill domain for whole life...
Most of these people in this blog think that food grains come from super malls (Reliance fresh etc..)
Although I am not communist but I can only say the TATAs and the govt. are not providing enough compensation to these poor people.
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by SHUJAT MIRZA on Aug 27, 2008 11:50 AM Permalink
See what you have written. You declare farmers are "poor", "unskilled", "marginally literate", etc. Ever gave a thought what is keeping these farmers poor. Its suhc attitude to continue suckling on the breast of the malnourished mother land. Give a change over. Give a living chance of a life time to the poor farmers. Let nano come which will bring with it many other ancilliary industries, schooles, hospitals and God willing, the poor farmers will be freed of centuries of stranglehold of poverty. Please wake up and talk sence. Jai Hind
RE:A simple Statistics
by sugata paul on Aug 27, 2008 12:47 PM Permalink
Kabeer, You really a stupid fellow, who never look anything positive.Your best place is on a tea stall bench with your unemployed 30 freinds.
RE:A simple Statistics
by Raghavendra Kulkarni on Aug 27, 2008 11:48 AM Permalink
We can look at statistics in the other way too: 1. 14-15 farmer per acre? That mean, approximately 15 farmers * 3 members per farmer = 45 members, feeding on one acre. 2. With this land allotment, one job per family is assured, along with the compensation amount. Which one is a better option?
I am not saying that all aggri land in India should be Industrialized. But, some land needs to be allocated for Industrial growth!
RE:A simple Statistics
by alrup on Aug 27, 2008 11:59 AM Permalink
Dear Kulkarni
1 job per family is not assured...even if they promise some jobs these are unskilled job (because most of them are unskilled) and they won't earn enough to have food
These lands, though unbelievable, produce crops twice/thrice a year and total rice yield from fertile 1 acre enough to feed 45 persons and also sell a portion of it to get annual saving...This is true
RE:A simple Statistics
by KALA BHAINS on Aug 27, 2008 12:48 PM Permalink
Out of 997.11 acre land acquired, 10852 land owners (which included multiple owners of a single plot) of 691.64 acres land collected compensation of Rs. 90.87 crores. Owners of 305.47 acres (2251 persons) did not collect money. There are litigations for 51.11 acres (220 cases). Even the labourers of the agricultural fields (locally called 'bargadars') of that area were also compensated. Out of 244 bargadars only 14 did not collect compensation. The land were mostly single crop or two-crops land. Had they been that fertile or the incomes from their land was so high, then why they are being called as poor farmers. On my recent visit to WB, I talked to my bank's Agriculture Officer of Singur area. (He privately confided to me that he was a TMC supporter, but did not support the agitation). His opinion was that the compensation package was very good, that is why mostly accepted it. The land holdings per family was so meagre that it was becoming difficult for the farmers to make both ends meet. Though the problem is not connected with my home state, being an Indian I am worried if such a huge investment is to be shifted out of WB, it would be a shame for all the people of the state, not for the ruling party supporters alone. Also it will be a collossal waste of money which will be a national loss. The supporters of the agitating leaders, think about long-term benefit of your state. Medha Patekar, who has not done anything for Maharashtra farmers, is supporting Mamtaji only to ha
RE:A simple Statistics
by Kabeer on Aug 27, 2008 11:21 AM Permalink
For all those who are screaming hoarse their lungs out in this blog in support of Ratan Tata, please answer me honestly, if you want.
In Bombay you got two whacking stadia Brabourne & Wankhede in the prime business district where only a couple of cricket matches are played in a year.
Govt asked the land be sold to any one and build multi storeyed office space there. The ongoing office space rates are already one of the highest in the world there i.e Nariman Point.
The owners of the stadia i.e Private Clubs refused to sell that land stating that it is their private property and they can do whatever they like with it. Selling it to build multi storeyed offic space for the good of the nation didnt bother them. Every educated person supported them stating that it is their property and they can do what they like and the GOvt has no say in it.
FINE!
Now, in Singur, the land is alluvial soil i.e. the richest arable soil irrigated by the gangetic tributaries over millenia. The farmers are tilling that land for centuries and are makiing a living out of it.
What moral right has anyone to force them to sell their lands to the Tatas?
If you are rich you get away by builing whacking stadia in the prime business district of the nation.
If you are poor you are forced to sell your best farming land to some one else and you have no say in it?
Are all those educated lot who are screaming hoarse here believe in equality and common rights? Or are they regurgit
RE:A simple Statistics
by abhinav mishra on Aug 27, 2008 12:56 PM Permalink
Boss don't talk about all that "Morality Thing" here cos everyone knows that the Growth index of West Bengal is Below than that of Bihar. So if tata's put a plant in Singur, ppl there will get job locally and they don't need to go out for work.Try to see the bigger picture dude.
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by prakash bhattacharya on Aug 27, 2008 11:40 AM Permalink
First we have seen land was taken from so called Jotdars and Jamidars (even the poor congies were also in that category). Now the hypocrat commies are transferring the same to the Indusutrialiists. Can you please tell who would the next transferees? Can you recall those days when Metal Box, GKW, etc. companies were closed and Philips, etc. companies were forced to move out of Kolkata due to the agitation of CITU? Please commies, do not show your hypocracy again? Last thirty years we the bengalis were trained to stage demonstration, agitation, gherao, etc. How can we forget its applications within 30 days? It is the achievement of the Commies to include the word "GHERAO" in OXFORD Dictionary. Are you not proud of that? Can you please tell us the amount of cut-money given to CPIM by the TATAs for Singur? Why the agreement is so confidential to the Government? Is it threatning the safety and security to our country? My dear commies please come out. Lastly, please tell me why highly fertile land in Singur has been selected when we have a large bank barren lands of infinite number of closed factories? Are the cadres of CPIM party planning to develop buildings in those places? Is there any commy who can clarify me?
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by abhinav mishra on Aug 27, 2008 01:00 PM Permalink
if you can't make the poor understand a simple fact that they should avoid producing babies like insects than they have no rights to talk about rights of government.Government is doing what it can do and the same with ppl like Tata's.First go and tell those ppl not to contribute in POPULATION EXPLOSION than balme the government or anybody like TATA'S.
