%u201CWhat Every Person Should Know About War%u201D by Chris Hedges
Narrated by Shaddad bin Aus: Allah's Messenger said, "A wise man is the one who calls himself to account (and refrains from doing evil deeds) and does noble deeds to benefit him after death; and the foolish person is the one who subdues himself to his temptations and desires and seeks from Allah the fulfillment of his vain desires."[At-Tirmidhi]
RE:Does God Love War!
by hakeem on Oct 25, 2007 04:44 PM Permalink
Prince Charles, Heir to the British Monarchy in a recent public speech at Oxford University stated:
"If there is much misunderstanding in the West about the nature of Islam, there is also much ignorance about the debt our own culture and civilisation owe to the Islamic world. It is a failure, which stems, I think, from the straight-jacketing of history, which we have inherited. The medieval Islamic world, from central Asia to the shores of the Atlantic, was a world where scholars and men of learning flourished. But because we have tended to see Islam as the enemy of the West, as an alien culture, society, and system of belief, we have tended to ignore or erase its great relevance to our own history."
May Allah guide us all to the Straight Path, Aameen
RE:Does God Love War!
by Anurag Shrivastava on Oct 25, 2007 05:21 PM Permalink
well - I am sure quoting a moron like Prince Charles will not help your argument at all. You will not accepted till you get out of a religious frame and talk like a modern rational human being first...
RE:RE:RE:Does God Love War!
by hakeem on Oct 25, 2007 04:54 PM Permalink
Did you ever read Satanic Verses? I know you didnt. Your a typical zealot whose opinion about something or someone is based solely on the opinions of others and not on his or her own understanding and reading!
The book deals with different religions and he speaks a lot of your beloved hindu religion as well, a lot! |Chuckles|
The Satanic Verses are those verses which just one scholar of seerah of muhammad *pbuh* believed were once part of quran but were later deleted. They deal some gods of pagan arabs and their legitamacy or illegitamacy. Something very similer happened to the Isa ibn maryam *pbuh* as well is very well documented in christian traditions. However other seerahs of the prophet donot mention anything of this. And it is upto scholars to come to agree upon that. There is nothing more or less to it.
He didnot called the Quran by that name. Only those 3 verses were called satanic verses as it was believed these verses were uttered by the satans temptations, hence satanic verses!
While none of the quran and the muslim world has the oldest versions of the quran and these three verses are not part of this so rusdies claim was false. The matter is plainly this. But my muslim brothers as is well know get excited quickly, made mess of the issue w/o even understanding what it is about. Even the fatwa against him by an iranina cleric was recanted!
RE:Does God Love War!
by Seeker on Oct 25, 2007 04:44 PM Permalink
u have no right to abuse the mother of someone. islam forbids people to abuse anyone whatever the provocation. what has his mother said to u? it shows ur mindset
RE:Woman and islam
by Anurag Shrivastava on Oct 25, 2007 04:32 PM Permalink
Hey bro - have you ever been to Turkey and its beeches ? and religion of those women in Bikini there. Women in Turkey occupy key executive posts and is a living proof that a reformer can transform any country. Women during Saddam's regime had equal rights. And so also Algeria , Egypt and Lebanon. And I have met a lot of smart and articulate women from pakistan - the kinds you won't find in India. And in Afghanistan BEFORE Americans armed the mujaheddin to liberate Afghanis from Soviet rule.
So please - keep your theories to your self. We have to have reforms in India on a much faster pace before we start pointing fingers at others.
RE:Woman and islam
by Vostro on Oct 25, 2007 04:43 PM Permalink
Mr Fact Speaker, Forget about all that, lets talk about simple things , you are talking about women rights, well Indians are not also very liberal when it come to women rights (sati,dowry) forget that too, if a guy is having a affair or makes love he is smart and if a girl has an affair or makes love she is a of bad character, if a guy drinks and partie late night that is fair but if a girl does the same thing again she is of bad character, valntine day shd not be calebrated in India well mate so much for freedon and being democratic..i am sure everyone here will agree and this only happens in India
RE:Woman and islam
by Sanjay Guevera on Oct 25, 2007 05:05 PM Permalink
I am compelled to comment .Islam has to be seen in the social context where it emerged.In those days ,the man were having unlimited number of wifes. Prophet only tried to ristrict that number by saying "you can have one ,two ,three or upto foue wife not more than that"virtullay it was a ristriction . Islam does ask to have four wifes but it ristricts it.Now what is position in Hindu religion,sorry to say as per our great religion we can have any number of wife.One wife norm is the gift of Hindu Marriage Act 1955 ,which contains lot of non-hindu practice (it ignores Kanya Daan,Gardharv Vivah, Rakhsash Vivah) etc. In islam there is atleast some liabilities in case of divorce but in Hindu religion there is none.(safe gaurd is provided thru HMA 1955). Now talk about status.Why we forget Manu Simriti, Tulsi Dass comment and also treating woman as a property in the Hindu Religion. What is Kanya Daan . As per Manu Simriti "girl is a property of a father and he is to donate it to man as wife and there after she is property of her husband" In islam woman have right in the property of the father(Duktari) but in hindu religion no such right.Let us not forgat the tradition of Satti in Hindu Society. Today what the Hindu Woman has got i9s not by virtue of the "Pro Woman Hindu Religion" but due to progressive Hindu Personal law which are at many point anti Hindu. What is required is to modify Muslim personal law to make it more human family as the old traditional law are out dated.I am no
RE:RE:Woman and islam
by Anurag Shrivastava on Oct 25, 2007 05:18 PM Permalink
Well sir - you are right. After all Dashrath had 4 wives as well. Draupadi had five husbands. And many of the pandavas had sown seed in every town they went to... only Lord Ram set the standard of one wife. Women's rights have more to do with education and social growth than with religion. Even in US - women in black community are treated like sex objects from childhood , raped by the boys and have high rate of teen pregnancy.
RE:Woman and islam
by LaX Ray on Oct 25, 2007 04:24 PM Permalink
I know 2 muslim countries atleast, who had women PM. both our neighbours. Regarding CEO, whats the ratio of men and women CEOs in entirely world.
RE:RE:Woman and islam
by LaX Ray on Oct 25, 2007 04:43 PM Permalink
obviously men and women shud have equal rights. The things you are mentioning, do you see around you?
RE:RE:Woman and islam
by hakeem on Oct 25, 2007 04:41 PM Permalink
Ur writings speak of your Clossal Ignorance of the History of Science!
Dude read about Averroes (Ibn Rushd). The whole of Catholic Theology is based on writings of this great muslim scholar of the so called dark middle ages! Ronald Reagan was a personal fan of his!
Dude go do some reading!
www.muslimheritage.org is a very basic introduction to this topic.
Prince Charles, Heir to the British Monarchy in a recent public speech at Oxford University stated:
"If there is much misunderstanding in the West about the nature of Islam, there is also much ignorance about the debt our own culture and civilisation owe to the Islamic world. It is a failure, which stems, I think, from the straight-jacketing of history, which we have inherited. The medieval Islamic world, from central Asia to the shores of the Atlantic, was a world where scholars and men of learning flourished. But because we have tended to see Islam as the enemy of the West, as an alien culture, society, and system of belief, we have tended to ignore or erase its great relevance to our own history."
May Allah guide us all to the Straight Path, Aameen.
RE:RE:RE:Woman and islam
by DEV ASHISH on Oct 25, 2007 05:02 PM Permalink
It is good that you have read about Islam, Arab, etc. Read something about humanity, India, etc. as well. Thanks!
RE:Woman and islam
by Seeker on Oct 25, 2007 04:33 PM Permalink
Mr Fact Speaker pls check ur facts. the number system used in existence now is the Arabic number system as against the roman one. and pls dont be ridiculous. u want to pass of barbaric customs in africa as islamic? whom are u trying to delude? urself? as for women in islam. i can say with pride that islam is the only religion which recognizes the rights of women. and before some idiots start pouring some idiotic things about purdah and other crap id like to ask them to pls study the role of women in islamic society before posting their stupid comments on hearsay and some crap which they may have read elsewhere.
RE:Terroristss
by Seeker on Oct 25, 2007 04:23 PM Permalink
ya i guess LTTE, Naxals, ULFA, IRA, Nazis.. etc are all muslims... wow we muslims do have quite a reach!! Well Laurie dont think that repeating something like a parrot will make it true.
