RE:brahmins realy low casts
by rajaram on Jun 04, 2007 08:21 PM Permalink
Religious stories sucks man. When Jesus can turn water to wine why cant we have an elephant head on a human?
RE:brahmins realy low casts
by Awaara Uncle on Jun 04, 2007 08:16 PM Permalink
It is better if you immigrate instead of asking others to go West. Because soon there will be private sector reservations in India and nobody will be able to stop it.
RE:brahmins realy low casts
by Utpal Dutta on Jun 04, 2007 08:17 PM Permalink
You dont know an iota of 'hinduism' and talk! Kow now that 'HINDUISM IS THE ONLY DHARMA, GOD MADE ALL OTHERS ARE MANMADE" THERE ARE AMPLE PROOFS! WANT A DEBATE? NOW DECLARE BEFOREHAND WHAT PRICE YOU WILL PAY FOR LOOSE COMMENT?
i dont agree with these purification rituals conducted in some temples. However it has to be mentioned that Vayalar Ravi goes on and on about how he is an Ezhava.
the purification ceremony was not performed because he is an ezhava, it was performed because his wife is a Christian and there is a rumor that his children have been baptised.
In Kerala, hindus are very gaurded about their religion, because they are afraid that they will be overrun by the Abrahamic faiths. There are websites in the USA (of liberal protestant faiths like the Southern baptists- bill clinton is a southern baptist) which request people to go to the temples of Hindus in India and pray so that the temples will fall and the HIndus will see "light" and accept Jesus. when you consider this, it is but natural that Hindu priests in Kerala (where a lot of foreign missionaries go) do not allow non-Hindus to enter the temple.
Things are not as simple as people think they are. Having said that I think it is better if Kerala priests were more flexible and less afraid so that they can improve the image of the religion and attract more people to temples.
RE:not good
by Rohit on Jun 04, 2007 08:11 PM Permalink
Anyway they can believe in Jesus, or Adonyss, or Mithras, or Osiris. The last three were all dying and resurrecting gods before Jesus. All have December 25th as birth date. All dies on Friday. What good choice !!!
Ravi,a hindu,marries Maria,a christian,whereby his son and daughter are no more hindu,by the doctrines of the dharma,which does not pave way for any relaxation for any individual's violation of codes!The dharma is for all , provided he honours the doctrines of the dharma, with no self desire fulfilments!(Ravi fulfilled self desire by choosing to marry Maria, a violation of 'hindu doctrine.H e will remain hindu but his wards will not be! H e is not debarred to perform the rites as per 'hindu dharma'but not in a temple!Because that will be a relaxation!)If relaxation is granted, the thousands others who follow it rigidly,their disciline and hardship is put to the mat! Let Ravi perform 'hindu' ritesin his private place! But in a community place of 'hindus', with longstanding rituals performed with physical sanctity,he cannot! There is no licence to the priests or the management to ignore it! In 'hinduism'there are millions of methods provided for different categories, and this style is one for the common man with limited abilities! It is a following of 'shastras', no human creation! Today, ill conceived "secularism" thinks, it can do anything to anybody! After all Ravi is not GOD!And the millions who follow the 'shastric doctrines are not'cheap fools' to be ignored! So the sentiment of Ravi is unjustified!If his son goes to court,court will say "hindus rituals' should be honoured in a 'true secularism"! If number plays the game, then dear men, who say against it may hear! By arr
RE:An attack on 'hindu rituals
by JK on Jun 04, 2007 08:14 PM Permalink
You Moron who was Maria a few hundred years back? Do you think Maria's forefathers are from Germany? They were born hindus who converted after the british settled in India and can you tell me who a real Hindu is? In villages in.India Hindu people have their own deities. They dd not pray Vishnu or Shiva or Krishna a hundred years back. They prayed to their local deity. All these diferences between Gods is a product of fundamentalism in the last 2 decades. In my own village we pray our local deity which our ancestors prayed for a thousand years and that deity comes first for any function in our family. So dont be a Hindu fanatic. Your own ancestors are no different.
RE:An attack on 'hindu rituals
by Utpal Dutta on Jun 04, 2007 10:00 PM Permalink
Both Jk and Surya! you must know your limited vision,limited abilities,limited knowledge and the last point a very limited wisdom! Have you ever driven on a long and (appearing) straight route,where your vision does not reach beyond more than 8 kilometers?You see the road straight! But when you drive 100 kms, you find the sun has come from right side to the left side! Why ? Any idea? Its your incomplete knowledge! The straight road is an illusion!The curve is so fine that you take it as straight! You are taken aback! Any half knowledge brings facts that way! Here, in Ravi's matter, you dont know about the developments and comment! There is no bar for Ravi to do the 'hindu rites' because he is hindu and the head of the family, but can't do it a publicly worshipped temple where 'mandir sanctity' is in question!Violation of that is an attack!Maria might have been a hindu long ago, but once you leave it wilfully or forcibly, you are reated as a class called 'mlechchha', who also can worship but in a prescribed manner!One who is not folllowing the doctrines and at the same time wants the 'hindu' tratment by the temple authority is nothing but 'arrogant', which'secularism' does not permit. And in 'sanatan dharma (salled hinduism)'the GOD,almighty takes many appearances , all of which are representing HIM and all worships reach HIM! So as you say " All these diferences between Gods is a product of fundamentalism in the last 2 decades" IS YOUR IGNORANCE! IF YOU CARE TO READ 'SRIMAD
RE:An attack on 'hindu rituals
by Surya on Jun 04, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
JK Moron,
Do you think if you go few centuries back hindus are hindus they were humans so is everybody.No reason now to think of past to only particular point.Lets go to more back in time.Fundamentalism from all religoins inclusing Hindus.
RE:RE:An attack on 'hindu rituals
by Utpal Dutta on Jun 04, 2007 10:16 PM Permalink
You said (1)"our ancestors prayed for a thousand years and that deity comes first for any function in our family" (2)"All these diferences between Gods is a product of fundamentalism " Its not fundamentalism! Its your lack of knowledge! Your ancestors did correctly , as the Almighty GOD,takes shape or appearance, as the worshiper worships! You read"SRIMAD BHAGABADGITA", now available, translated, in many languages and read world over,and your knowledge will improve! Best wishes for you and wishing a speedy recovery of your correct knowledge!
V Ravi is paying service to Sonia Mama Mia by dividing Hindus again on caste lines, while fact remains EZHAVAS WERE NEVER DISALLOWED TO ENTER this temple.
Shame on COngress Leader and Indian Media deeply penetrated by Xtians and their vested interest.
RE:RE:RE:WHY DO HINDOO WOMEN POUR MILK ON SHIVALINGAM
by asdf on Jun 04, 2007 08:14 PM Permalink
yeah..we know all about your fu*ckin religion..but then we dont like to stoop to your levels..you dogs have barke for centuries..keep on barking..THE FACT IS YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO DENY YOU FOREFATHERS SUCCUMBED TO PRESSURES TO CONVERT!!
RE:WHY DO HINDOO WOMEN POUR MILK ON SHIVALINGAM
by on Jun 04, 2007 08:12 PM Permalink
U mitha fukkin sexomaniacal Bastard,Thats cos Mary slept with a Cow Boy!
RE:WHY DO HINDOO WOMEN POUR MILK ON SHIVALINGAM
by asdf on Jun 04, 2007 08:11 PM Permalink
AND CAN ANY ONE EXPLAIN WHY HOLY CATHOLIC FATHERS MAKE LITTLE KIDS SUCK THEIR DI*KS?
RE:Who is a Hindu?
by sylvia francis on Jun 04, 2007 08:35 PM Permalink
and people like yu choudhary are the people we love to hate you dharti par bojh get lost saurabh yu are a level headed intelligent guy throw some more light on these bunch of fanatics
The first one is saying Nair and Namboodthiri, both aare matriarchal, which is not the case. Namboothiri, the Kerala Brahmin follows Patriarchism.
The second one is saying Guruvayoorappan is an avatar of Lord Krishna. He is not considered as avtar of Krishna, but Krishna himself, more specifically Krishna as an infant.
And the third is Ravi saying the whole issue is because he is of backward caste Ezhava. The issue was his wife being Christian and Hindu Temples in Kerala does'nt allow non hindus to enter temple premises.
So his son was not considered a Hindu because his mother was Christian.
Ravi has every right to feel aggrieved but being a responsibe citizen and a leader of status he should not distort facts ang give it a casteist colour. Especially in Kerala's background where casteism is not at all prevelant.
And besides all Guruvaayoor Temple gets frequent terrorist threats. Allowing any Tom Dick and Haarry to the centureis old shrine is non acceptable.
And temples in Kerala adhere to strong rituals like not allowing people to have non veg food and go inside it. Non Hindus won't adhere to such strict regimen.
RE:RE:Three Wrong Points in the Article
by deetee on Jun 04, 2007 08:11 PM Permalink
JK you are a moron, complicated things cannot penetrate a simple brain like yours. People like Vayalar will always use incidents like this to fool you into thinking something else.
These self appointed keepers of temples hv stifled Hinduism for ages and kept it from becoming a global religion fostering peace & spirituality......stifling of spiritual knowledge or places of worship, apathy to open conversion & barring others from attaining a ul Hindu identity have restricted this beautful religion which is a world treasure. Hinduism should be freed from these elements and propagaged.
