RE:Attention pseudo seculars: Can you ask for entry for non muslims in mosques?
by Anand Iyer on Jun 05, 2007 11:25 AM Permalink
U mean to say taht we should imitate mullahs and muslims in everything? Do u thing mullas and muslims r worth imitating by hindus?
Yudhishtira insisted that the Dog following him should be allowed into heaven along with him. So if Dog is allowed in heaven, it is allowed in temple.
As for non-hindus. when Lord Krishna says that "I am equally present in all beings-none is dear to me or hated by me"(Gita, 9:29), then how can u bar non-hindus from temple?
RE:To Ramakrishna Panicker
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 05, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
When you are in my house you play by my rules. When you are in the Lord's house you play by his rules.
If he is particular about it, why not take him to ISKCON Temple? Why pick a tradtional Namboodri Temple?
RE:To Ramakrishna Panicker
by Anand Iyer on Jun 05, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
www.faithfreedom.org.No I am not pesudo secular. I am aware of the woinderful job that your website is doing. I have read your site.
Kindly note that me equally respect all human beings irrespective of caste or religion. Please understand, that was somebodies message me reproduced. See the above message once again. Sorry for annoyance caused.
RE:To Ramakrishna Panicker
by Ramakrishna Panicker on Jun 05, 2007 11:50 AM Permalink
Dear Mr. Narayan, I dont know really your fundamentalists word indicates, but one thing is sure the fundamentalists are at their place and others something far. We know that a nut shell has its own limits, only in better atmosphere only it opens its mouth otherwise it shrinks into its shell. So we give grace marks that all.
RE:To Ramakrishna Panicker
by biz Narayan on Jun 05, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
Krishna never said I am "Equaly".... Iyer is a marxist stooge, is ready to become a false prophet. He is half converted to ideology. Iyer wouldn;t know in this life what went wrong with that interpretation.
Theis Vylar Ravi is a plitician like any of these:- 1. Who take money for questions in the parliament. 2. Who protect the terrorists. 3. Defence lawyer joins with the prosecution. 4. Take money for every thing they do. 5. Encroach and help to encroach public property. 6. They go in the railway without proper ticket. 7. ^hey want the train and plane to wait forthem. More over as per the Guruvayur temple rules he is not supposed toke photogrph, how the above photogrphy came. Action must be taken against for this. If you taken action agaist this act he would say because of he being a backward caste action was taken.
Just u attend any christian preacher meeting & see how they insult Hindu god. Where was Vayalar & our secular politician & our Media at that time? I feel religion itself regulatory mechanism for our mind & it follow certain customs based on faith to followers & should be common to all castes (Caste is word born from profession of their natural strength). Breaking all custom is fancy idea of 21st century. When he mentions lower caste again & again, the same man who supported to include creamy layer in reservation. Does he have any real intention to uplist poorest of poor? No, He will do anything which gains him but not in process oriented way. That is the way his mind operates
Can this nonsense be stopped. Let's not hijack Lord Krishna and his teachings. If anybody is a true Krishna bakht then everybody is welcome to visit any Krishna Temple. Please read the Gita - the Bhagwan tells everything in great details- even if people are muslims, bhuddist etc they will in the end come to Lord Krishna ---
He is a Hindu accourding to him. I think his son refused to confirm it in writing before the temple so the shuddi was done. Why is it such a big thing for Mr Ravi.
Like many others who are in the Government, Mr Ravi thinks that laws and rules apply only to the 'people' and not to the rulers. Perhaps Mr Ravi should know that those who make laws should first follow them.
Like every other institution the Guruvayoor temple too has rules and Mr Ravi and his family should have followed them.
In fact, in his arrogance, Mr Ravi and his family chose to flout the temple's rules and is now blaming his trespass on Brahmins.
Mr Ravi, should perhaps be excommunicated like some other religions do, when they wilfully break their religious laws. Maybe then he will really learn what breaking rules is all about!
If u believe that muslims r right in restricting the entry of non-muslims in Mecca and that is the teaching of Islam and its scriptures-I have nothing to say to that. Dont tell me that hindus should do whatever muslims do.
But don't say that if muslims r right in preventing hindus to visit Meccas, hindus r justified in restricting non-hindus in temples. Restricting entry of non-hindus in temples violates the scriptural injunctions of Gita{See verse 9:13). So, first see what Gita says, then argue.
RE:Dear Shahrukh Nizami
by SHAHRUKH NIZAMI on Jun 05, 2007 11:12 AM Permalink
I clearly want to say one thing that, if you believe in one religion then you should and must respect all of its costums. If muslims restricts non-muslims in macca then they are right according to their believe. And a priest of temple follows accodingly then there should not be any politics. there should be only the religion system without politics.
RE:Dear Shahrukh Nizami
by Sivakumar Balasubramanian on Jun 05, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
Hi Anand, The verse states as mah%u0101tm%u0101nas tu m%u0101m%u0301 p%u0101rtha daiv%u012Bm%u0301 prakr%u0323tim %u0101%u015Brit%u0101h%u0323 bhajanty ananya-manaso jñ%u0101tv%u0101 bh%u016Bt%u0101dim avyayam - This talk about devotional service .. right? Meaning: O son of Pr%u0323th%u0101, those who are not deluded, the great souls, are under the protection of the divine nature. They are fully engaged in devotional service because they know Me as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, original and inexhaustible.
RE:Dear Shahrukh Nizami
by Anand Iyer on Jun 05, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
Lord says in verse no.29 of Chapter No.9 of Bhagvad Gita: "I am equally present in all beings;there is none hateful or dear to me".(Samo aham sarva bhuteshu na me dveshyo asti na prihah) (verse no.29 of Chapter no.9)
RE:RE:Dear Shahrukh Nizami
by Sivakumar Balasubramanian on Jun 05, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
Here Lord Krishna says... I envy no one, nor am I partial to anyone. I am equal to all. But whoever renders service unto Me in devotion is a friend, is in Me, and I am also a friend to him. -- This is very nice. He is friend to all whoever serve him with devotion..... Lets all pray and try to render service to lord than spitting venom at each other...... This should start from high political office..... This need to be preached to high offices, where all these hatred breeds-in.
RE:RE:Dear Shahrukh Nizami
by Prathap p on Jun 05, 2007 11:23 AM Permalink
Siovakumar, These politicinas are cheats they are not doing service to god. They self serving persons. They do all crime not service, I feel all politicinas als must not be allowed in the temples. Most of them are aheats
When so many temples are built by Sri Narayana Gur why this semichristan grand son was taken to Guruvayur temple by Vylar Ravi. He is a politician so he is bringing in the caste theme to Guruvayur this is not understood by even Communists. Shudhikalasam was done because of the present rule prevailing in the temple not because of he is an Ezhava. he even took photo graph from Guruvayrur temple which is prohibited. These parasite politicans want to break law every where.
RE:Vylar Ravi
by Sivakumar Balasubramanian on Jun 05, 2007 10:56 AM Permalink
I agree that "photograph" is prohibited. Vayalar should apologize for this. Lets try to respect each other... things will solve easily.... Time will answer....
