Wonderful analysis of the emerging axis of power. The nuclear deal is just an excuse for promoting the Indian-US relationship in the coming years. People should realise that asap.
The experience of IT, auto, textile and services makes us feel that N deal is one such thing that we need in future. We people believe that democracy will bring things for the benefit of people and country. The people are watching what all goes in the process also.
RE:Democarcy for people
by fun guy on Jul 18, 2008 04:54 PM Permalink
Do you think congress/commies/BJP will take the country forward? You should remember one thing that congress is responsible for this entire crisis. Though India has got lot of intellectuals in world still India is far backward in technological capability. (refer WIPO world intellectual property organization statistics). These so called Harvard education economists are good at do business. They will sell the India at a great price. They don't have good vision to take India forward. India means not few billionaires but it is majority of poor who is in hunger. Government should concentrate on providing affordable quality life to poor at the same time concentrate on building technological capability of India. Further it will lead to provide better livelihood for all. Technology is the only way to provide good education, health care, safe water, food and everything today. Not just attracting third rated IT jobs/BPO to India and spoiling the powerful youth population.
RE:Democarcy for people
by Girish Rao on Jul 18, 2008 04:57 PM Permalink
you are a big fool. India was extremely poor in 1947. You have no India how British looted our country. You are a nobody and so you can criticize. What India has achieved in 60 years is much more greater than any other country. You should know that India was written off by everybody in the west in 1947. India had no money, no roads, no electricity, no enterpreneurs, no big cities etc. Harvard economics theory works if we have capital, without it how are you going to kickstart the economy.
RE:Democarcy for people
by Ashok Gobindram Lulla on Jul 18, 2008 05:45 PM Permalink
Girish Rao, you say in 1947, "India had no money, no roads, no electricity" And of course we have these now!!!
RE:Democarcy for people
by Girish Rao on Jul 18, 2008 05:47 PM Permalink
exactly, these guys comment so easily without knowing anything. Just because they go and write some code for some faltu US companies in US and India, they think US is mentally superior. To become prosperous is hard-work and it takes a long time.
RE:Democarcy for people
by Ashok Gobindram Lulla on Jul 19, 2008 10:18 PM Permalink
A bit awkward this, having to write at length. I guess you missed the irony in my statement! We have potholed roads,our cities get flooded today, the way they never did in 1947.Outside Mumbai, even cities like Pune face power-cut. Incidentally, Sify carried a news report today quoting WHO that a full 1.2 billion people in the world do not have basic toilet facilities. And 625 million of these are in India, who are faced to defecate out in the open. That is the gift of Congress. Ignore the basics, and shout about a nuclear deal that won't make an effing difference to people's lives. Except, of course, the Maino family, the AEC bureaucrats, our 'Industrialists', who will be waiting to lap up the crumbs that American nuclear companies will toss out, the Samajwadi Party and sundry others. Oh, as for money, how many middle-class couples can afford to buy a decent 2-bedroom house in a metropolitan city. Baki logon ki to baat hi chhodo.
RE:Democarcy for people
by akhilesh dixit on Jul 18, 2008 05:13 PM Permalink
Britishers looting of India is not a surprise what is shocking is our own Indians Politicians Beauracrats looting in defence deals in name of flood relief and all schemes.Americans had a bad history of killing and looting blacks but they made law for non discrimnation we legalised cast system by Reservation, Parties fielding candidates on cast and Religion, Parties like SP/BSP and JD(S) exists only in Kenya Sudan and Zimbabwaye.
RE:Democarcy for people
by fun guy on Jul 18, 2008 05:09 PM Permalink
Dont say number 3 is higher than 2. In developments see the rate. I think you don't know what is happening in the world. You are too optimisic. you may be better sales man. Please visit WIPO website and come with statistics.
RE:Democarcy for people
by wild monkey on Jul 18, 2008 05:27 PM Permalink
Hey this foolish rao is a good cricket and stock market lobby. The stock market speculators have to be too optimistic then only they can do trading in stocks in the hope that india will shine and sensex will be more than 20000. This fellow spends lot of time in watching fools game (criket). this fellow must be kicked out India.
RE:RE:Democarcy for people
by Girish Rao on Jul 18, 2008 05:45 PM Permalink
wild monkey, your name indicates your character very well. You should be experimented upon in one of those labs since you are wild
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by Girish Rao on Jul 18, 2008 05:43 PM Permalink
fun guy, you are a big time joker. The rate of growth in US in last 200 years is just 1.7%, that is the key. Being free for a long time and able to decide our destiny on our own. You know what happened in 1960, there was a big famine in India. But this time around Indian government airlifted foods. That saved lives. Whereas in all previous famines, Britishers allowed us to die like flies. Indias literacy improved from 6% to 11% from 1900 to 1947 whereas from 1947 to 1994 it improved from 11% to 55%. You are a fool and you do not know how economics works. I agree US has a lot more R&D and they are more prosperous etc. But you forget the importance of time. India is free for 60 years only US is free for 200 years. FREEDOM is of essence.
RE:Democarcy for people
by rna on Jul 18, 2008 05:17 PM Permalink
Rao...Boss look at Japan, after Hishima & Nagasaki blast they gain in a faster way then any country could have thought of!
RE:RE:Democarcy for people
by Girish Rao on Jul 18, 2008 05:48 PM Permalink
and of course Japan received funding from US via Marshall Plan. You lack of general knowledge is regrettable
RE:Democarcy for people
by Girish Rao on Jul 18, 2008 05:39 PM Permalink
rna , Japan started industrializing in 19th century itself. The key point is they were free. So they were able to apply industrialization in 19th century itself. Do you think an agricultural country would have been able to wage war in diffrent parts of the world and hold it for so many years. Japan set up all the bases in 19th century whereas India was getting massively looted by British in 19th century. Indias education system in late 19th and early 20th century was geeared towards producing clerks.
“..India represents a singularly positive opportunity to advance our global interests,' Burns goes on to state that building a close relationship with India would be one of United States' 'highest priorities' for the future….” For the following purposes:
1. To do all American monotones BPO, KPO and other IT third rated jobs in the name of IT super power nation. But American companies will do high end work like system analysis and Intellectual property creation (i.e creating Tech products) to sell back to India on 1000 times profit. American always will remain as technology superpower. 2. To buy all the technologies/tech product developed in USA like nuke, Electronics, computers etc. to strengthen the American economy 3. To support American endowers with out thinking and questioning them 4. To sell higher education to Indians
“…traditional allies like the United Kingdom, Germany or Canada have little or no relevance…”. They are not needed for the above purposes.
In net result. The lackhs and lachks of engineering graduates coming out of the colleges are joining IT and ITES Company. All the core industries are suffering/dead. R&D is dead. India economy is became service economy. Future of India will be doing begging services from developed country.
RE:Begging service
by Girish Rao on Jul 18, 2008 04:51 PM Permalink
you seem to be a slave of US keep at it. To develop R&D facilities takes a lot of time. US did not become a superpower overnight. It took 200 long years and it had the luck of seeing its European competitors fight among themselves in WWI and WWII. So cut the crap and do something. India's goals are diffrent right now(poverty eradication, high growth etc). Once India tackles that India can catch up with US or any other country. It is a matter of time. You want India to achieve in 60 years as much as US has done in 200 years. In fact US citizens at 60 years old were busy killing each other. Before you blabber know something.
RE:Begging service
by fun guy on Jul 18, 2008 05:05 PM Permalink
Future of the world is Technology power. Poverty can’t be eradicated without technology. India can provide safe drinking water to its polulation with out technology; good heath care is not possible with out technology power. Agriculture can't be strengthened with out technology. First green revolution was purely pouring fertilizers. Is it possible now?. Ok creating R&D facility may take time. What is happening to the created facilities?. Is there any account.
At least does the government is serious about this
RE:Begging service
by akhilesh dixit on Jul 18, 2008 04:56 PM Permalink
True to some extent, We can not blame US for our doing BPO KPO hub. You have companies like TCS, Wipro, Satyam, Infosys and even Govt Cos. like CDAC NIC, What products they created and how many patents they hold all together? How many products HAL or DRDO created in time and without cost over run.US did not say that you dont develop work culture or reserve seats in IITs and IIMs on cast not merit. We have to blame ourselves then only we can improve finding problem in Pakistan and US is no solution.Our scientists are doinggreat in NASA and US Uins why not here?The one clean PM who is not a good politician thaatys why he will fail and give signal to all educated and clean persons not to join Indian politics . We can build our Higher education to attract students from US, UK but who is interested in Building Institutions?Ramdoss destroyed AIIMS MM Joshi killed IIT and IIM's reputation by creating all the wrong news.Indian students have freedom to choose among US, UK Australian, Newzealand, chinese Russian Universities and all these countries are getting enough of Indian students not US alone.Only we want to see our kids in US to feel proud.
seems to favour BJP as he criticises both congress(American stooges) and Left(Chinese stooges). This guy is not even considering how badly dependent on fossil fuels India is, or how nuclear energy is much more nuclear than fossil fuels, coal etc. He betrays his leanings towards BJP without naming them.
RE:This guy
by nimit patel on Jul 18, 2008 04:26 PM Permalink
Are u scientist??? are u PHD in physics?? why u are talking like u know all about nuclar deal...
let me give u fact.. even after deal till 2025 we will not get more then 40000 mw of electricity from it.. today india is producing 120000 mw electricity and in 2025 it will be 300000 and nuclear enegry will be just 12% at that time... this is maxuimum amount...
we should look for tidel energy solar and wind energy and our polititian are fighting like cats and dogs..??
i am not telling dont do deal.. do it.. but cant wait for next 10 months>>???
on whihc basis people are feeling without nuclear deal we will not get power??? do u know how mcuh it will cost around 2500000 cr rs... or 600 bn dollar.. and that will be cost india around 8% of GDP for next 20 yrs..
without dollar how u will buy reactor and techonology and other thing???
right now crude is going on, balance of payment is negative... that all doent matter and just crying over n deal???
this is the thing like.. by looking at palace u are buring yr hut....
RE:This guy
by Girish Rao on Jul 18, 2008 04:54 PM Permalink
dude, they cannot wait because LEFT wants us to abandon US. That is why they cannot wait. But I agree that Congress should have consulted BJP and those issues should have been sorted out earlier. The opposition of BJP is pure politics. Congress is doing this to take India away from the path of LEFT you fool. And 12% is a big number, when did anyone say India will achieve total independence from oil. Dont play with words.
RE:This guy
by Pushpa Agencies on Jul 18, 2008 04:50 PM Permalink
Our existing N power plants are running at 50% capacity for want of fuel by signing this deal our N power will run 100% till new plants get commisioned, do u know what will be the cost of fossil fuel in the next 5 years.
RE:This guy
by ruchita on Jul 18, 2008 04:38 PM Permalink
they can't wait just like nature call every morning or night for l-a-t-r-ine it's very urgent
