Hi Brahmin lobby. We know that your noise is well heard. But for Periar the progressive state like Tamilnadu would not have existed. Look at UP and Bihar. Brahmins are in good number and education is not available for poor people. We are really proud that our self respect was rescued from Brahminical oppression. Periyar led the fight and the war is still on. An illiterate is a genius and all educated brahmins are crooks. If we don't know the difference, the you better go back to your slavery days. He opposed Hinduism because of the relevance in his own mother land. If you don't have objectivity of any progression then you all need some study of social issues and should avoid you Manu shasthra and all other sanskrit nonsense. Religion is opium of the masses, indeed. We have a clear thinking society in Tamilnadu because of Periar. Compassion of Periar needs more understanding of Humanitarian values. I remember, theese Brahmins enrolled themselve for German course in Madras Christian college in 1940s. They thought that they can become the clerks if Hitler captures India. This is no less than a job of a pimp. We will fight it out to bring our characterstics with the 'divine' guidance of Periar. Elango
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by rationalbeing being on Apr 30, 2007 01:28 PM Permalink
in up and bihar along with the other states there are many brahmins and upper castes who are poor enough but get no help from the govt as they are upper castes,pl get out of the idea that brahmins are rich everywhere.periyar some exrent show the path to divide the hindu socirty in the name of caste.
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by elangkallanai kallanai on Apr 30, 2007 02:18 PM Permalink
You poverty hasn't become a genetical property My dear Brahman friend. In Tamilnadu, the fight has helped majority of the people to understand the socila structure.
RE:Periyar is a real saint
by Ganpat on Apr 30, 2007 02:28 PM Permalink
You are caught on the wrongfoot, Elango. You cannot deny the fact that social justice is prevailing in Tamil Nadu. My query is how long you need the reservation.. Why you are not helping the poor through reservation.
A 'BC' judge has 2 sons, who are both Doctors, Again their sons/daughters will become doctors or judges one day. We can see this only in Tamil Nadu, bcos of the stinking reservation....
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by elangkallanai kallanai on Apr 30, 2007 02:33 PM Permalink
My dear friend, You are taking samples here. I am telling something as a larger picture. Indian society is essentailly structured based on caste. Caste based reservation is inevitable.If you remove that stain and humiliation , economically weak people can be really identified and it is easily possible for us to go ahead. May be we need for 100 more years. I am sure. Elango
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by Vijay Kumar on Apr 30, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
dear ganpat 1. u r more welcome if u treat all the people in this country as equal. other wise u can fly usa if u cant able to tolerate the socalled 4th sector in the society is emerging slowly against ur suppression
2. u r listing the 2 generations of people that slowly gaining status and we saw you guys gaining access to everywhere for the last 2000 years
3. it clearly shows if some place that you cannot enjoy the high status, u will fly next place to dominate others. is it your regular habit?
4. dont think narrow mind as periyar is against god only. he has done other reforms and if u want to know, jus read the life history of periyar
5. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, as MNC and other companies gaining and accessing facilities from govt like lands, infrastrucure etc etc thro subsidised manner, periyar movement already started the reservation policy in the PRIVATE SECTOR also. Haven't you heard about this and cry this also
so you can better start if u plan a industry, in some other country only and not in india as it will entitle for reservation in pvt sectors
RE:Periyar is a real saint
by Ganpat on Apr 30, 2007 02:07 PM Permalink
Hey Elango ! I am damn sure that you would have got a seat in one of the Govt colleges in TN thru reservation.... What a loyal fellow.
Now sit up and answer me, for how many generations u want reservation ?? another 200 years??
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by Ganpat on Apr 30, 2007 02:34 PM Permalink
And finally do u believe in 'HINDU GODS'. Bcos most of the guys who admire 'PERIYAR' now believe in God and visit temples frequently. Shame !!!!!
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by elangkallanai kallanai on Apr 30, 2007 02:17 PM Permalink
You enjoyed thr British Reservation. It is our own country. We will not hesitate to eliminate you. Aryans are agressive everywhere. I am not sitting in a govt ofice . I am a competitor but I understand society better than you. Elango
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by Ganpat on Apr 30, 2007 02:32 PM Permalink
If we leave 'your' own country, you will not get the reservation. Is that okay for your kids.. We are just 3%, we will leave the countr (settle in US).
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by elangkallanai kallanai on Apr 30, 2007 02:36 PM Permalink
I will be very happy. We will remove reservation . Once your structure is destablised we will have our own structure. You guys are proud of settling down in US. We know one thing for sure. You will be second class citizens there. You won't enjoy the heavenly status as you are enjoying here. Elango
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by Ganpat on Apr 30, 2007 02:46 PM Permalink
This shows your acceptance of your inability to compete with the brainy guys.... Neverthless, MNC's now recruit the guys based on their talents only, Dont expect the reservation 'lollypop' in those companies. Most of them are dominated by Brahmins bcos of their command over language and their skills & intelligence. On the other hand, Govt departments in TN are full of BC/MBC/SC/ST officials and these are full of corruption & mismanagement. Even now, the fact is that Brahmins are fluorishing in the " reservation" filled Tamilnadu. Tamil Nadu's No.1 English Daily is run by Brahmins., No.2 Tamil daily is run by Brahmins..No.1 Automotive group is run by BRahmins.. and the list goes on & on...
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by Ganpat on Apr 30, 2007 02:48 PM Permalink
Leave it to us.. We enjoy our life wherever we live.. Bcos we are Aryans and we move from place to place.... hehehe
