ca. 500,000 BC: origin of the human race, ca. 200,000 to 50,000 BC: evolution of "the Tamilian or Dravida[1]", ca. 200,000 to 100,000 BC, beginnings of Tamil ca. 100,000 to 50,000 BC, growth and development of Tamil, 50,000 BC: Kumari Kandam civilisation 20,000 BC: A lost Tamil culture of the Easter Island which had an advanced civilisation 16,000 BC: Lemuria submerged 6087 BC: Second Tamil Sangam established by a Pandya king 3031 BC: A Chera prince in his wanderings in the Solomon Island saw wild sugarcane and started cultivation in Tamilnadu. 1780 BC: The Third Tamil Sangam established by a Pandya king 7th century BC: Tolkappiyam, the earliest extant Tamil grammar
RE:The Primary Classical Language of the World is Tamil
by IndianReporter on Apr 30, 2007 09:46 PM Permalink
any valid source for this my friend. any link available on the net to trace to these findings.
RE:The Primary Classical Language of the World is Tamil
by IndianReporter on Apr 30, 2007 09:59 PM Permalink
thanks for the link. makes a good reading, but the fact of the matter is that it is one author's view point and is not historically proven. anyway Tamil is good language whether old or not. language does not mke a person good or bad it is the teaching. apart from brahmins I have never heard of any teaching for the society in India. is there anything like teaching, civilization without brahmin gods...? I wonder.
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by IndianReporter on Apr 30, 2007 10:03 PM Permalink
btw. as per your link, Sanskrit is of Indian origin and Tamil is lemurian (foriegn or dead land), so we should go and make indian language stronger if we are Indian.. i believe present day affliation is better than unknown past... tamil is a foreign language, learn that for a skill, but mandatory Indian language..as per DMK..point that we should not learn foreign lang..
RE:The Primary Classical Language of the World is Tamil
by KNNT on Apr 30, 2007 10:09 PM Permalink
Lemurian is part of India and it was under Tamil kings, so it is part of India.
But the sanskrit is actully from central asia and it is the alien language.
RE:The Primary Classical Language of the World is Tamil
by harifromchennai on Apr 30, 2007 10:13 PM Permalink
Dear KNNT, In any case, nobody can cliam themselves as son of soil. All are migrants. If we argue tamils are from indus valley civilization, it was located in Pakistan and north India. In such scenario, tamils are migrated to now south India, hence migrated. Nobody in this world can be called as son of soil.
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by KNNT on Apr 30, 2007 10:12 PM Permalink
I think you dont know Tamil civilization and its literature. Most of Sanskrit literature and grammer is borrowed from Tamil only, those facts are ignored and hidded by aryans in India.
Indus Valley Civilization which is oldes civilization of India ever found is very very similar to Tamil culture and its civilization.
Read history and about Tamil for more about Tamil contribution to nation.
RE:The Primary Classical Language of the World is Tamil
by Venkat Krishnan on Apr 30, 2007 10:46 PM Permalink
knnt:
im sorry to say, you are in deep ignorance, only veiled by more ignorance.
You say:
"Lemurian is part of India and it was under Tamil kings, so it is part of India."
Well, there was a time when all land mass were together, doesnt that mean we are all from SAME place? Where is the question of foreigners then?
"But the sanskrit is actully from central asia and it is the alien language."
Before British came, there is no iota of evidence that this is true. If it were the case, it would have been mentioned at least in one Tamil literature. Read the literature first-hand, dont go by conclusions of other people like Pavanar or somebody. Pavanar himself fails to furnish any proof, but keeps simply iterating what he thinks as a fact. If you read Tamil literature, nowhere there is even ONE mention of "Aryans coming and taking over Dravidians". The "Dravidian identity" was coined later than the "Aryan identity". Both Sanskrit and Tamil literature have thrived together, borrowing from each other. Eg Kambar was a native Tamilian by birth, but was a Sanskrit scholar, and exclusively wrote Ramayanam in Tamil. Why didnt Kamban hate Sanskrit?
RE:The Primary Classical Language of the World is Tamil
by harifromchennai on Apr 30, 2007 09:54 PM Permalink
If I am not mistaken, the so called facts in wikipedia would have contributed by fanatic tamil. Any other proof? I would be really happy to see
RE:The Primary Classical Language of the World is Tamil
by KNNT on Apr 30, 2007 09:58 PM Permalink
Man, wikipedia article can contributed by anybody. Even you can change that if there is no true in that.
No one can post just fake or false thing in wikipedia, it will be removed next day.
Read the full articel, that itself has proof for everything.
RE:The Primary Classical Language of the World is Tamil
by harifromchennai on Apr 30, 2007 10:04 PM Permalink
Dear KNNT, I know tamil and speak. I know the facts whatever being listed there in Wikipedia. What does it add to tamil in the real context apart from some pride, which is worthless for the rest of indians and rest of the world. Keep up the history and raise in appropriate forums. But not going to help in real world
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by KNNT on Apr 30, 2007 10:10 PM Permalink
Even APJ insisted many times to work for Tamil and Tamil development. He gave lots of ideas for that. So working for Tamil is working for Tamil Society and its developement, so obviously working for Indias development
RE:The Primary Classical Language of the World is Tamil
by harifromchennai on Apr 30, 2007 10:18 PM Permalink
But he studied nuclear physics and missile technology and contributed to the whole India. He was never called as a tamil but the whole India is proud of him. He must have suggested to keep the history and culture intact, otherwise "tamizh ini mella sagum". Tamil will die slowly. This is common for all languages
