I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE TALK ALL NON SENCE ABOUT BRAHMINS .AMBEDKAR DIDNOT LIFT A PENCIL TO FIGHT BRITISH.NO BODY CAN SAY THAT BRAHMINS DIDNOT DO ANYTHING FOR THE COUNTRY***LET US NOT FORGET THAT THE FIRST MARTYR FOR INDEPENDENCE WAS A BRAHMIN AND HIS NAME WAS MANGAL PANDEY.LOKMANYA BALGANGADAR TILAK WAS A BRAMIN CHANDRASHEKAR AZAD WAS A BRAHMIN VEER SAVARKAR WAS A BRAHMIN.BHARATIYAR WAS A BRAHMIN.THOUGH PANDIT NEHRU CLAIMS HIMSELF TO BE AN ATHIST HE WAS A BRAHMIN BY BIRTH LALBAHADUR SASTRI WAS A BRAMIN ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE IS A BRAMIN AND ONE OF THE BEST PRIMINISTER INDIA HAD.LETS NOT FORGET C.V.RAMAN WAS A BRAMIN SUBRAMANIAM CHANDRASHEKAR WAS A BRAHMIN WHO GOT NOBEL PRICE FOR SCIENCE.RABINDRANATH TAGORE WAS A BRAHMIN**SO IF PWOPLE THINK BRAHMINS HAVE CREATED ONLY ATROCITIES PLEASE CORRECT YOURSELF***THESE ARE JUST A FEW NAMES WE ARE PROUD WE ARE BRAHMINS AND WILL ALWAYS BE.
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by Acinonyx J on Apr 30, 2007 06:18 PM Permalink
Why is it that in South Indian temples you are not allowed to enter if you are not a Brahmin? Are you proud of that too? If you are then you are sick in the brain.
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by Ram Sharma on Apr 30, 2007 07:33 PM Permalink
i had been to temples in TN with two friends in 1994. no one there asked us if we were brahmins or not. so do not lie.
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by kannadiga on Apr 30, 2007 06:30 PM Permalink
Non muslims are not allowed to Mecca thats ok.
But in India, Non-Brahmin Hindus itself are not allowed inside the hindu temples for several thousand years, Periyar fought for that only inside our country.
First clean your back and then go to Mecca and other countries....
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by on May 01, 2007 01:17 AM Permalink
The state of the greatest temples in TN is horrible- only Maduria meenakshi and Tanjavur seems a little ok. One gets pestered for money and to subscribe for mail prasadams by priests located at each deity's sanctum. Seems like being a priest is no more privelege or honor just another government job in which they have not belief or passion for. Plus the temples are filled the garbage, the temple ponds filled with filth. This is a complete contrast to Kerela temples, where most of the temples are still not under government control. The strictness of rules is often misinterpreted as racism. But the rules are for anybody visiting the temple, I guess temples are still viewed as first a religious place and very last a tourist spot. Things have definetly changed for the better- non brahmins are allowed inside the temples.
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by VIJAYA BUDDHIRAJU on Apr 30, 2007 07:07 PM Permalink
Is that true that other than Brahmins not allowed into the temples today? Din't Brahmins themselves fought against that discrimination though? Din't Brahmins write books showing how bad the system was?
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by agnee i on Apr 30, 2007 06:27 PM Permalink
few issues of pre independence times cannot be called an issue of today ***today all temples are open to all hindus**tell me one thing was your grand father educated no today are you educated?***today can u distinguish between good and bad or not? so just if u r so angry for things that happened 50 year ago then u should be fighting for everything lets not forget sikhs were massacred and amritsar raided 6 times for that matter today if all sikhs become terrorists and start shooting all muslims it will become a never ending story of war.when you are talking of today talk about today.
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by kannadiga on Apr 30, 2007 06:33 PM Permalink
But Non Brahmin cannot become priest in the Hindu temple even today. Just last year TN Govt passed a historical law to enable everyone to become priest. This is what Periyar wanted.
The same should happen in Karnataka too and the brahmins and sanskrit should go away from the state like how it is vanished in TN.
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by Crazy Human on Apr 30, 2007 06:40 PM Permalink
kannadiga, why dont you go and settle down in Tamil Nadu since you seem to love Periyar and his rotten idea.
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by ARAYTHATSHARP on Apr 30, 2007 08:05 PM Permalink
You just shutup kannadiga, you are making an irrational argument. Why would learning a new thing be an obstacle for you in life? Did you urself invent Kannada or what? Just because you were born in a state which speaks kannada doesnt mean you are the whole and sole inventor of Kannada AH!! You are really such a sick idiot who wants deny urself to add value to urself.
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by agnee i on Apr 30, 2007 06:50 PM Permalink
assh**es dont knows where gold exists u think its dead ****just like god cannot be seen by everybody ***all good things cannot be seen by all assh***es***thats why good things are still alive
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by Ram Sharma on Apr 30, 2007 07:40 PM Permalink
kannadiga but the greek president learnt sanskrit in germany and welcomed dr kalam in sanskrit. people in germany and japan are learning sanskrit and doing research on our old literature.
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by biz Narayan on Apr 30, 2007 06:50 PM Permalink
No where rascals were appointed as priests, escept during british rule. Kannadiga is a storm trooper with phD is racial analysis.
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by MOHAN PB on Apr 30, 2007 06:49 PM Permalink
My dear Kannadiga, I write this without any malice and purely to share some information with you. The "slokas" in any language, that have come down from our ancestors of yore have been composed with a specific scientific purpose. if these slokas are chanted in the prescribed pitch, volume, chord etc. the person chanting and his surroundings are put into vibrations (Sound and vibration go together). These vibrations elimnate the body and the atmosphere of negative unhealthy elements (including viruses) and energise all people around. This is why in temples sanskrit shlokas are chanted. Before replacing Sanskrit with any other language, let us make sure that the replacement has the properties of the original sanskrit slokas. Thanks,P.B.Mohan
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by Srikanth on May 01, 2007 01:26 PM Permalink
To say that sanskrit is dead is wrong. The Tamil that is spoken today is not the one that was spoken 2000 years ago, it has changed with time (Try to give the meaning of Kongudher Vazhkai Anjuraithumbi without konar notes). The same with Kannada - The Kannada that is spoken today is not the one that was spoken years ago. Same with English. Sanksrit slowly changed and evolved as Hindi of the present day. So it is alive. Only that unlike in the case of other languages, the old (sanskrit) and the new (Hindi) forms of the language have been preserved.
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by IndianReporter on Apr 30, 2007 06:58 PM Permalink
hey kannadiga when is the language dead? i can understand y many write abuses to your posting. nobody stops u from praying in your mother tongue. the way sanskrit can create a electromagnetic resonance on the special rocks used for sculptures make it the best suited for chanting. Just listen to slokas without any prejudice, ask the priest to explain you the slokas he is reciting. do not pass judgements.
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by agnee i on Apr 30, 2007 06:59 PM Permalink
our attitude sums it up,Kannadigas are good for nothing. A bunch of useless guys. even in 50 years u wont be able to chant vedas in proper tone
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by agnee i on Apr 30, 2007 07:06 PM Permalink
u guys are biggest beggers u beg for seats without studying "jiska ghar kud kach se bana ho wo doosro ke ghar me phatar nahi pheka karte" thats what intillegent people say oh i forgot u r assh**le u should be told.
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by Crazy Human on Apr 30, 2007 06:58 PM Permalink
you want all of us to study Kannada/Tamil and other regional languages and become bus conductors eh ? Shows your narrow-mindedness, you want to study ENglish and you want to tell others to learn regional languages.
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by kannadiga on Apr 30, 2007 07:00 PM Permalink
I never wanted all to study Kannada/Tamil. I want all to study their mother tongue and any other language. Thats all.
Here Im talking against the dead sanskrit. Not it favour of Kannada/Tamil/English. Follow the postings first then comment, useless fellow.
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by MOHAN PB on Apr 30, 2007 07:08 PM Permalink
My dear Kannadiga, You need not accept what I said about slokas (independent of language). Please do your own study or research on this subject and conclude. You need not even accept anything online. Incidentally, I never said that only Sanskrit slokas have a scientific basis. All slokas are like that. Certainly one should undrstand what one chants. There is nothing that stops anyone from understanding the meaning of Sanskrit Slokas. Thanks, P.B.Mohan
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by biz Narayan on Apr 30, 2007 06:54 PM Permalink
kannadiga is a paid agent of atheists, what a job that he has to use his theories on a different aspect than how aryans migrated from wereever and alughtered his ancestors.
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by Loser The Indian on Apr 30, 2007 08:43 PM Permalink
This guy Naikan was a bad Telugu speaking Kannadiga landed in TN tried to fish in troubled waters! He was a total illitrate - a typical Kannadiga! Few set of Tamilians followed him for sure upto a point then realized he was a farce not a force to reckon with!
He called Tamilians as barbarians and abused Tamil language!
Historically Temples were not run by Brahmins. During Abrahamic barbaric invasions, Hindus asked non-violent Brahmins to take care of temples so that they could fight those invading barbarians who rapped our women, killed many innocent kids and looted our wealth.
Inspite of that Brahmins have been poor from the ancient times and even today. They never wanted to become a big force favored many ruling class.
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by r patil on Apr 30, 2007 07:22 PM Permalink
Kannadiga try to speak one sentence of kannada -minus sanskrit words.If possible try to speak english with out any common indo-european words ok let see.
You should come to north karnataka and maharashtra were so many prominent old temples are mentained ,managed by non brahmins.Even pujaris are non-brahmins, they are called as guravs.Anyway they are really kept those temple shabby dirty way.All new temples build by non brahmins are keeping brahmins voluntraly as priest ,though nobody has forced them to do it. By the way I am non-brahmin and my family deity private temple 's pujari is a brahmin priest and we are proud of him the way he maintains clean santum santorium and performs pooja with out missing one day no matter what.
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by agnee i on Apr 30, 2007 06:38 PM Permalink
do u know sanskrit? if u don't then who are you to comment on it.now a days all materials are available for learning everything.its very easy to comment on all issues.but to comment on it u should know the subject fully.first learn and then comment*i doubt even in 5 years u will be ABLE TO SPEAK SANSKRIT FULLY
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by IndianReporter on Apr 30, 2007 06:45 PM Permalink
@kannadiga i would welcome anyone as priest if they have relevant experience and knowledge. there are instances in epics and vedas , nayanmars and alwars where by birth people from so called other caste, have become eligible to perform poojas by their skill and learing, and we also workship them. know history and religion better, we can allow them to guide us for betterment.
its one thing to say all are allowed and other thing to say few people exit. you are from the second thought, please change.
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by kannadiga on Apr 30, 2007 06:50 PM Permalink
Cool man, then why the Brhamin Community and organizations went to court to get the stay for this law passed by TN govt.
Thats shows your cunning wolf minded brahmins attitude.
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by Vasantgopal on Apr 30, 2007 09:17 PM Permalink
No one apart from the designated priests who are custodians are allowed in the close vicinity of the gods in South India, this rule is applicable to the VIPs, rich and poor, any caste or race...while in the north everyone is allowed to touch the idols. Obviously it seems it is just a cultural thing and has nothing to do with caste or even religion!
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by agnee i on Apr 30, 2007 10:15 PM Permalink
u stupid people donot know or will understand these things****temples in southindia are well maintained in that way the common bramins too dont go to near idols*** its only the pre appointed priests who go near the sanctum sanctroum***this not only helps in maintaining the sanctity but also makes it systamatic***u strupid people wont understand**because u r born with demonic brains
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by Srinivasan Rangaswami on Apr 30, 2007 06:28 PM Permalink
Acinonyx u know.. now a days bramins are not doing wrong thing to dalit.. in tamil nadu their is one community if u are going in that street u should not allowed to wear sliper.. they are not bramins
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by VIJAYA BUDDHIRAJU on Apr 30, 2007 07:04 PM Permalink
What sruprises me is that despite their excelling in education and being in high places, why did Brahmins remain poor. After Brahnins took the leadership to fight off the British, they antibrahmin guys becmae super rich-kept caste intact and infact do not want to leave the caste and at the same time bash the Brahmins. As today Brahmins left Tamilnadu and became a minority, Hindus will leave Taminlnadu because they will become a minority pretty soon because of actions like those of Ramaswamy Naiker.
In Tamil Nadu, there is no Hindu even nowadays. All people in Tamil Nadu belongs to TAMIL COMMUNITY. Thats the great achivement of Periyar. So there is no question of becoming minority.
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by Vasantgopal on Apr 30, 2007 09:22 PM Permalink
Vijaya, It is quite clear that Periyar failed socially, even today TN has the same caste divisions like the rest of India, on the positive side hindu festivals and customs are strictly adhered to, probably more than the rest of the country. Only a minor section is still atheist, but they are surrounded by strong theists as can be witnessed by the crowds at all temples. All the top dravidan leaders openly visit temples- the greatest of them MGR probably had the right balanced mind when it came to social engineering and religion!
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by r patil on Apr 30, 2007 07:52 PM Permalink
Tamil Selvan do tamil christains and muslims say they are not christains and muslims they are only tamilains ?Then why tamil nadu CM is asking for exclusive christain and muslim quota even though they are getting beneffits as BACKWARD CASTE ,and why are hindus not given reservation as hindus ?
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by IndianReporter on Apr 30, 2007 06:22 PM Permalink
have you visited temples ? and btw which is the temple you have not entered. any thoughts about entering mosque for not praying..
