A Brahmin who understands reality speaks: There is a village near Chidambaram in Tamil Nadu where a high priest Brahmins lives. They decided being they are the greatest they will not go any where, everything should come to them. They avoided any education except their moribund Sanskrit language. See now after centuries of self created isolation they are worse than Dalits in education poverty etc. Similarly, white Caucasian villages near New York who avoided all modern gadgets like electricity, car, radio, TV, etc, and live like a primitive tribe with their own dear customs and belief system.Their plight is also like any tribals in India or Africa. I can site so many such examples. In short education, sophistication, modern values and democracy are the keys to progress and development neither Sanskrit nor Brahminism as some Rip Wan Winkles think. So the privileged classes in India have the moral responsibility and historical obligation as they were the party responsible for denying vital education to them.So we have to impart opportunity for the deprived sections of Indian society by positive discrimination and not further insult and injure the majority indigenous population by denying their basic human rights the proportionate representation reservation to correct the century old Brahmin reservation as upheld by Manusmriti favoring Brahmins and upper castes. CAN ANY BODY AMONG THE TRADITIONALIST Brahmins brothers EXPLAIN? 1How can you explain the so called Brahmin poverty given tremendous opportunity and culture,clout etc.It is only less intelligence among them in a lesser stimulating environment.So idiocy can affect any body if environment is poor. 2 Brahmin monopolies in everything resulted after religious reservation in their favor for centuries. 3 Ethnically Brahmins are not superior to other castes or Dravidians.The British conquered the Brahmins and ruled India more than 200 years because they had superior system and intelligence. Moreover Brahminism prevented others to fight for the motherland except the Kshthriyas 4 Dravidian states like Keralam,Tamil Nadu,Mysore,Andhra are superior in development,less corruption,riots,law and order,literacy,state of females,longevity,quality of life, peaceful elections,more number of cars telephones,fridges,less disparity between haves and have nots%u2026than the filthy underdeveloped Aryavartha,the devastated by foreign Arya Brahmin attack and cultural domination.Hindu fascist organizations are only interested in maintaining their dear caste system by persecuting the Avarnas.They did not raise even their little finger against the foreign rulers.They attacked Muslims branded them as enemies to prevent unity between Avarnas and Muslims so that they can continue their centuries old monopoly. 5 India became a beggar nation after thousands of years Arya Brahmin domination subjected to maximum period of foreign invasions including 200 years of British Domination. 6 85% of Indians did not have any freedom or opportunity to grow and express themselves under the clutches of the fascist Hinduism and Brahminism. 7 Dr Ambedkar and Sri Buddha were the greatest intellectuals India has ever produced. Both were not Brahmins
RE:A BRAHMIN FOR THE DOWNTRODDEN
by VIJAYA BUDDHIRAJU on May 01, 2007 06:53 PM Permalink
I think any body can write any which way they like. The so called Brahmincal literature was not created by Brahmins alone. Brahmins protected it against great odds. Without Brahmins, there is no religion, literature, art, music, dance, sculpture even a book. We would have been tribal. We are acting like tribals with zero understanding and negative knowledge of even the recent history, no w that we took Brahmins out. Your first observation is partly correct. Priests forgot the meaning of what they were preaching and victimized themselves and others to some extent. The belief in God makes one to relinquish many things. The Taliban of Muslims or the Evangelist Christians staunchly believe in their book and live by it cause harm, and make others to live in their unreal world. In that perspective, religion makes no sense. But you see, in the Hindu mythology which was ardently preserved by Brahmins, there was no God we pray to, who is a Brahmin. They had no guarantees to them, like the privileged castes today. Let us assume this periyar or Amebedkar were the preservers or create of religion or philosophy, all our Gods would have been their caste. What ever faults you may want to attribute to Brahmins, they were not monsters, they did their job and excelled in them. You may be assuming Brahmins suppressed some one. The persons of every caste contributed enormously to the society. There was no weaver, Godsmith, pottery, architecture, valor, business which were preserved several other castes could be matched by any one or group in the world. No law or practice can be written for ever. Once Hindus become a minority in India, the laws will change. The so called blind reservation policies will disappear and probably those responsible for this unjust nonsense will pay a dear price. By the way, Ambedkar was not the greatest intellectual India has produced. He was not even average. He had attachment his caste and fought only for it. He was no patriot either. It does not hurt to read some books in India. We lost 90%. But what we have still is a ocean. If you want me make list of intellectuals of just 20th century, I can make it for you. That will fill over 100 pages. India is a land of million Shakespeares, Platos, Aristotles and Jesuses. Europe may have one each.
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by Sudhakar Hiramani on May 01, 2007 10:07 PM Permalink
dont talk of babasheb ambedkar u know very little of him and u have not experienced worst form of untouchability that he and his generation has e3xperienced,manuwadi system has not left free all the free thinkers from time immeomorial it is only ambedkar that manuwadi were not able to tarnish his image or else manuwadis have made rakshasas of every free liberal intellectual from avarna caste.u r not fit enough to comment on ambedkars talent ,one ambedkar was sufficient to bring gandhis and nehrus below feets, hope so after touching ambedkars talent u have learnt fitting reply from him where u and future generations of manuwadi followers shiver just at invoking his name,since he was staunch nationalist u r still majority hindu nation or else if anybody else would have been then this would have turned by this time to islamic nation,if ambedkarites turn up to islam no nobody can save hinduism from disentegrating like of pack of cards.
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by Sriram Vanamamalai on May 01, 2007 09:13 PM Permalink
Bye the way Calling brahmins as descendants of Aryans proves my point that you are a fool. The Aryan Invasion theory has been discredited and even Max Mueller in the later part of his years agreed to that that it may be flawed. You people are misinformed and ignorant. Even in this open era you refuse to read and then blame the SO CALLED BRAHMINS
RE:RE:A BRAHMIN FOR THE DOWNTRODDEN
by Sriram Vanamamalai on May 01, 2007 08:05 PM Permalink
Your Point 7 is right. Add this as point 8
Purohit Sharma is also the greatest fool India has ever produced. I say that because Brahmin is not determined by the family your are born in. Its determined by the deeds they perform. Since you started Brahmin bashing let me ask you this how is it fair that when birth does not categorize one as a brahmin you deny them all kinds of oppurtunities in schools and colleges and still the majority children denied turn out to be in the top? Answer is simple the reservations and all evils push them to work harder. One who is knowledgable is considered a brahmin. Your ways make Brahmins to be intellectually superior and will be superior intellectually unless others decide to compete. If you keep thinking free education is enough then you will not reach the heights. Grow up think in the mordern society there is no upper caste or lower caste. Do not play politics with this for a 15 minutes of fame.