Only SHUDRAS (Harijans) have built all the temples all over India. These Brahmins never carried a stone or brick on their shoulder or bead. Till he completes the constructions of the temple, a Shudras hard work is required. But once the work completed these Brahmins branded these workers as Shudras and after that they cannot even enter the temple and devised for the above mentioned remedies and punishments, if they go nearer to the God statues in the temp le.
According to the Puranas, to become a King or Administrator one should be Brahmin. To become a Brahmin, one must take 4 births. But now many low caste people are Chief Minister without the 4 birth? This itself shows these Puranas are the .false books. created by the Brahmins to fool you.
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by Chandu on Apr 30, 2007 02:44 PM Permalink
come on Bangalorean, don't throw out your half cooked stories here..you must be under the influence of some X'ian missionaries who are experts in tarnishing hinduism.
The foundation stone of hinduism (Ramayana and Mahabharatha) were written by two so called 'harijan' saints (Valmiki and Vyasa) and it is with Valmiki, Sita spend her most difficult times. Vyasa was the son of 'matsyagandhi' (fisher folk). There were no untouchability prevailing in hinduism then. So when did hinduism started decaying with issues like untouchablity, only a few centuries back when the brahmins regained power from the budhists during the 6th and 7th century. Read and analyse things properly before you key in some bull shit here.
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by rationalbeing being on Apr 30, 2007 02:49 PM Permalink
THANKS A LOT YOU HAVE MENTIONED THE WRITERS OF THE TWO GREAT INDIAN EPICS WERE WRITTEN BY VYASA AND VALMIKI WHO WERE FROM LOWER CASTES.I WANT TO ADD BRAHMIN SANKARACHARYA BOWED BEFORE VYAS,VYAS IS CONSIDERED THE MOST SUCCESSFUL MUNI IN HINDUISM INSPITE OF BEING A CHILD OF FISHERMAN COMMUNITY.
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by dmk on Apr 30, 2007 04:07 PM Permalink
In tamilnadu sankaracharya was under arrest for the reason of killing a person named Shankara raman.
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by rationalbeing being on Apr 30, 2007 02:57 PM Permalink
so u r living 2 thousand years back,i have not wirnessed such type of incident.
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by dmk on Apr 30, 2007 04:06 PM Permalink
ok gaining power from budhist what brahmins did, they created partion in the name of birth , beacuase brahmins only we peoples are cleaning toilets , human waste are crried by humans itself , modern metropolis too it continues , 100% office boys and house keeping persons all are from SC/ST , is there any Brahmins ?
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by rationalbeing being on Apr 30, 2007 02:55 PM Permalink
you are spreading hatred sir,what mr chandu said that casteism is not the whole story and the fact which is being raised that brahmin did not pay respect to lower castes is also partial truth,so they should not be blamed .if they have respect and tolerance then they must have the right to exist.but todays dalits and so called obcs are proving to be the most intollerent people who are not suitable.correct yourself before accusing others.
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by Vaempuli V on Apr 30, 2007 02:41 PM Permalink
Did the Kshatriyas, Vaishyas etc etc carry stones for building temples? Did they treat the dalits anyway better? Were the rulers sleeping when the brahmins were doing wrong? Hell No. It suited them. Now brahmin baiting suits them and the chameleons have turned colours.
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by rationalbeing being on Apr 30, 2007 02:46 PM Permalink
EVER NATION AND EVERY RELIGION HAS ITS OWN MYTHOLOGY MAY BE THAT INDIAN MYTHOLOGY HAS BEEN WRITTEN BY THE BRAHMINS.THE RELIGIOUS BOOKS AND SHASTRAS IN OTHER RELIGIONS WERE WRITTEN BY THE CLOSED AND NEARER PEOPLE TO THE PREACHERS OF THE RESPECTIVE RELIGION,ALL THE PEOPLE FROM SOCIETY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO WRITE SCRIPTURES IN OTHER RELIGIONS ALSO.THE GREAT BOOK -GITA WAS WRITTEN BY SRIKRISHNA WHO WAS A YADAVA(OBC).
READ WHAT WE WANT TO IGNORE what periyar did not mention that the chaturvarna was first adopted according to the division of work,not on the basis of caste.in history,we would find several intercaste,even inter religious marriage including friendship between different communities-rajput king married a bhil girl,sri krishna was a yadav who married several khsatriya girls,akbar and jehangir married rajput hindus,sri ram had a friend like guhak who was a chandal,laxman got knowledge from ravana when he was in death bed.so ancient india was not full of casteism.jabal stayakam was welcomed by maharishi goutam who termed satyakam as brahmin(satyakam had no registered father),chandragupta maurya got the title from her mother who was a dasi and chandragupta maurya and samrat ashoka were not the representative of upper castes.sufi movement,bhakti movement was against casteism and religious narrowness.sri ramakrishna and swami vivekananda faught against casteism not balming the hinduism alone.so i think periyar missed and crossed the line.he could have mentioned the tolerism of hindus who gave place to other religious groups.there is not a single evidence in the ancient,medieval even in some parts of modern world in the field of religious tolerance in christian and islam country.also hinduism accomodated several different thoughts within a religion-here we have idol worship,nirakar god,even we get atheist philosophy,every person can woRship god in any foRm in this religion.hinduism is the only religion which never involved in forceful religious conversion.but pity is that periyar did not mention these positive sides.but sOme extent he spreaded a sense of hatred in the name of abolishing casteism.i donot know why.yes upper castes are very much responsible in many cases.but almost all of the great persons are from upper castes who made indians proud by their tallent,dedication not by their caste identity,what periyar also did not mention that many people from upper castes did several social reforms-RAJA RAMMOHAN ROY,ISWAR CHANDRA VIDYASAGAR were brahmin but did signficant social reform,sri ramakrishna vivekananda also did their best,upper caste personalities were greatly involved in the country's freedom struggle(subhas bose,tilak,nehru ,gandhi ,gokhale,bagha jatin,jatin das,lala ljpat and many names)where the leadership was maintained by them.even the great achiever of tamilnadu-srinivas ramanujam,cv raman was from upper castes.i donot know why he ignored all this.ok,but still he has a place in my mind for his movement for social justice which some extent changed as a movement of hatred at latter stage.
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by Sunil Kumar on Apr 30, 2007 02:32 PM Permalink
Great, Brahmano ki to waat lagadi tumne...these oppurtunistic brahmins try to manipulate everything which suits them...now who cares these brahmins....they are itself fighting for their existence...Bhagwan has really punished them for their deeds..
