Since East Germany merged with West GErmany, there is a steady decline in German sporting fortunes. Previously, they used to win in swimming, shooting and a lot in athletics. But nowadays they are languishing behind in medals tally.
Actually, Germans on an average with their broad shoulders and good physique are natural sportsmen.
Re: Whats happening to Germany - one time sporting superpower
by taklu on Aug 03, 2012 01:47 PM
they are doing quite well actually and in the top 10 , with a haul of 17 medals(incl. 4 golds) , they've won in gymnastics, judo, fencing among other sports..
Re: Whats happening to Germany - one time sporting superpower
by Venugopalan on Aug 03, 2012 11:00 AM
before some decades east germany used to dominate & win many gold medals in swimming./ gymnastics / atheletics..that time doping widely praciced by the swimmers, in fact some of the east german women swimmers nearly resemble men (WITH MUSCLES) later they were caught, some of them were banned.(later germany' united and become one).naturally the no of gold medals came down..now their medals tally is low..
Re: Re: Whats happening to Germany - one time sporting superpower
by Maihoon Don on Aug 03, 2012 11:35 AM
still they will be in top 5 by end of the olympics, i think. they will win a lot more golds in athletic events like discus throw, decathlon etc.
Its unfortunate that a country with 120 crores of people cannot produce even one gold or silver medal even after 50% of the olympic games are over! Sports like weight lifting, shooting, swimming, rowing etc dont have direct combatants and are more individualised. Its a mystery as to why Indians dont fare well even in such sports.
It all points out that the manner in which sports is administered in this country is very inefficient. To cite an example, South Korea fared their national fencing team first time in Seoul Olympics and they won gold. Mind you, not a single soul in that country is fond of fencing or that it has any great following. They started playing Hockey for the first time in 1988 and since then have defeated India black and blue many many times. The population of South Korea could be around 5 crores(?)
Thats because South Korea has a national sports academy which takes all players under its umbrella treats them as professionals. The players dont talk to press or the coach dont discuss plans in public. The best talent gets to represent the country which is obvious with the results.
Will India ever come up with a concerted strategy to promote sports going above regionalism?
Re: Sports In India
by Ganesh R on Aug 03, 2012 12:20 PM
FaceDude.. Are you Indian ? If yes, then you are also amongst the 120 crores people who is just blogging here rather than going and ROWING or BOXING ?
Still the events are not over. So please wait. Still Saina, Sania & Paes, Vijender, Sushil, Gagan, Swarn Singh have chances to get any medal. Nobody remembers how you start or what you have done in 1st half of the games or 2nd half. The FINAL medals tally of the country is FINAL. The very next after London 2012 Olympics ends, you see India's medals tally and then make comment sitting in front of your system.
Easy to type, difficult to achieve. Maybe you should first try and send yourself or your kith and kin to qualify for Olympics and then you can say proudly 'Why only me 'FaceDude & Family' is amongst the Indians who qualified in Olympics ? Why not other 120 crore people are not able to qualify like me and win medals like me ?
I think vijender was very luck to win his bout..american boxer was clearly winner in first round..he landed more punches than vijender in last round also..its true that vij. gon benefited frm pooer judging, bt in quarters he shall b more careful even though he has enough exp. of facing abboa atoev..good luck keep it up..!!
Re: Re: vijender..
by DABANG on Aug 03, 2012 10:02 AM
it is not about the wrong judgment but about the right punches landed for your kind information. do not try to misguide other people here.
Re: vijender..
by manish on Aug 03, 2012 10:32 AM
please don't try to tell that you are superior to the olympic judges!which punches constitute a point is a bit technical. it not like hindi film dishum dishum. by the same margin 16-15 an indian boxer lost also!even india made a official complaint against judgement but it was rejected.
Re: Re: vijender..
by praddumna pathak on Aug 03, 2012 10:43 AM
dabang & manish..please watch video of this match on youtube, specially last round n u will understand it clearly..and for a kind information to u both I am a qualified judge of 'Maharastra amateur Boxing Asso.' so better dont argue with me regarding rules and points system of the game...ok...!!
Re: Re: Re: vijender..
by Maihoon Don on Aug 03, 2012 10:46 AM
you idiot manish is right. since yesterday i am seeing you write pessimistically here. commentators were clearly saying vijender has the edge at the end of the bout. vijender landed the right punches and the US boxer was generally punching all around without any aim.
Re: Re: Re: Re: vijender..
by praddumna pathak on Aug 03, 2012 11:00 AM
hey don..vijender got through the last round only bcos in last round he managed to stay away frm us boxer most of the time, easily the most followed technique now a days by european boxers, moreover us boxer's 2 straight punches were not noticed by judges..n i m nt the only person crying abt poor quality of judging in boxing, even AIBA dicided to look into this matter seriously..And they r going to conduct worldwide workshops fr that purpose..in case of sangwan we already experienced it. It is good fr india that result went our way, hopes that in quarters judging will b fair n clean. n 1 more thing 'Don' it's better to keep ur mouth shut in matters u don't know anything, keep that in mind always...!!
Re: vijender..
by ramen das on Aug 03, 2012 11:52 AM
So what? Sangwan lost due to controversial referring... Jwala-Ashwini went out after confusing rules...
A lot of our players have lost by slender margins in many cases...
Let us not forget the extremely good showing of kashyap who reached Q/F stage on his debut and was unlucky to come up agianst the no. 1 seed. He has a bright future, this lad does. It was also wrong on the part of the media to hype up Deepika Kumari who lacked experience at the big stage. she is young and with grooming will bounce back.
Re: P Kashyap
by okroal on Aug 03, 2012 09:44 AM
MOST OF CHINESE WITH 19 /2 0 YEARS OF AGE WINNING GOLD IN SWIMMING , WEIGHTLIFTING..ITS NOT ABOUT AGE ...ITS ABOUT ABILITY ..I THINK AGE FOR OLYMPIAN TO RETIRE IS 26 ..
Re: Re: P Kashyap
by DABANG on Aug 03, 2012 10:10 AM
yes even a 15 year old boy or girl can lift 135 kg you are such a jerk. do you know any thing about any sports.
Sania Mirza/ Leander Paes- hopefully. Saina Newhal- most likely. Gagan Narang- hopefully another medal. Vijay Kumar- looking good at the pistol event. Vijender singh, Vikas Krishnan, Mary kom- with some luck. Sushil Kumar- with some luck. Krishna Poonia- dark Horse. biggest flops so far- the whole archery team, Ranjan Sodhi, Boppana/Bhupati.
Re: medal hopes remaining.
by okroal on Aug 03, 2012 09:27 AM
forget about vijinder kumar ...he somehow survive in this round..next round impossible for him to win..dont know bout other indian boxers
Re: Re: medal hopes remaining.
by carazon on Aug 03, 2012 09:32 AM
do you mean Vijender singh. He has reached the quarters. There is another boxer Manoj Kumar. His opponent in the round of 16 is the formidable Tom Stalker of GB. That is why I have not counted him.
Re: Re: Re: medal hopes remaining.
by okroal on Aug 03, 2012 09:42 AM
this bastrds Tom stalker was Car thief in 2003 ...he has regustered cases against him ...these tihef must be crushed and killed ...
Re: Re: Re: Re: medal hopes remaining.
by DABANG on Aug 03, 2012 10:05 AM
for your kind information Vijender will bang this Uzbek he has better record against him. most unlucky was Sangwan in 81 kg against Brazil's Boxer.
Re: Re: medal hopes remaining.
by rohit chauhan on Aug 03, 2012 09:32 AM
okroal- vijender has beaten this same boxer in Asiad by 7-0. It's very much possible. let's hope for the best rather than giving "expert" comments.
Re: Re: Re: medal hopes remaining.
by DABANG on Aug 03, 2012 10:07 AM
you can play better then Vijender then get ready for next olympics. do not crack jokes in the morning wo bhi sadele jokes
vijinder was extremly lucky ... infact US boxer was unlucky .. commentator also surprised ...US boxer was realtively new and still different set of judges ...might have won this match by at least 2 to3 points ...i think this is last win for vjinder ..next round will be impossible for him to win.
Re: i watch match live
by okroal on Aug 03, 2012 09:25 AM
first round must go to US boxer 5-3 ... I must accept Boxing point system and judges are worst in the world ... sangwan was unlucky...vijinder was lucky..thats it.
India is world champion in lazy cricket played by 10 countries. Cricket is value for money since one can watch it from dawn to dusk.All these other games are hopeless since they end fast. Games like tennis,badminton and football need a lot of running around.Why play them when there is a 'beautiful' game where one can just stand and score.And fortunately,this 'beautiful'game is not played by most of the world. So relax and enjoy cricket.Forget about other games,olympics etc.and live like the proverbial frogs in the well.Mera bharat mahaan !!
Re: India's outlook
by Mumbai Indian on Aug 03, 2012 09:32 AM
thinking like this one is spoiling all games. blaming cricket will not help improve other games. has cricket ever asked you not to see other games? still masses, from every section of society, love to see cricket. think about it.you can not force people to follow anything in particular, whether sport or any other field. cricket was nowhere before 1983 but they capitalised well on worldcup victory, organised and managed to spread game well throughout country. its good organising body that is helping cricket to sustain its popularity. see other game's organising committee. do you see any co-ordination? and thats what reflect in events like olympic. and yes dont expect sponsers for games where people dont follow. they are not charity organisation. sponsors are accountable to their shareholders for money invested. will you put your money in something which has go assurance of return? so inshort, concentrate on your game and stop blaming cricket if you really wannna succeed
Re: Re: India's outlook
by Ajai Jacob on Aug 03, 2012 09:47 AM
Mumbai Indian,you are correct.Indian masses like cricket for exactly the reasons given by me above. So India's performance at the the olympics is not going to improve ever !!
Re: India's outlook
by Ravi prasad on Aug 03, 2012 09:52 AM
whats wrong with you?? just stop hating one particular game/sport. In cricket the fielding team runs a lot. Its not a beautiful game so what?? who are you to judge on behalf of all Indians. If you are a hardcore fan of football, tennis or any other sport so be it, nobody asks you to watch cricket.
WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE OTHER SPORTS/GAMES IN INDIA BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN WE SHOULD START HATING CRICKET
