With his wonder goal, Ronaldo has laid to rest as to who is the worlds best. Dont forget that Ronaldo led ManU to champs league win last year, and while Messi was scoring against weak teams, he couldnt score a single goal against the tight English defences(led by terry,ferdinand etc). Messi would be 3rd behinf Ronaldo and gerrard if the topic of worlds best players ever come up.
Re: Worlds best player silences his critics!
by mg on Apr 17, 2009 01:34 AM
pele is the greatest. ronaldo is nothing compared to even maradona . ronaldo is just good player nothing great.
Re: Manu fans..
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Apr 16, 2009 09:42 PM
Just dont say based on the past few games.
Form is temporary. Class is permanent. U gooners were limping a month ago and were desparately hanging on to clich the champions League spot. Dont forget that.
Now u r saying that u can beat Man Utd. We are a class apart when comes to winning for a Silverware. U indeed play attractive football but when it comes to silverware we are the best.
Just see what u got in the past few years. Empty hand.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Manu fans..
by Ram Mohan on Apr 16, 2009 09:54 PM
and again. if ppl here say that manu has a better strike force than arsenal, then u guys need to check it again. arsenal has the best depth in squad as far as midfeild and forwards r concerned.
just look at what all injuries and financial restrains we hav had in the last 3 years whn compared to other teams.
manu went on spending and is currently the club with the largest debt in thee world. over one billion gdp.
maybe u guys r not aware of such stuff called as football economics
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Manu fans..
by g reddy on Apr 16, 2009 10:05 PM
well well...so u percieve investing in players as buying trophies. come to think of it, u probably r right too. i guess u cant blame United for arsenal not having enuff spending money. as for football economics, the glazer family is doin a fine job of managing the finances. they also have a credible record of owning succesful teams across the pond in the US.
as far as a better strike force goes, United plays n gels well as a team. better than most i shall say. credit where its due when it comes to wenger's foresight in investing in young players 4-5 years ago. but r u sure they'd stick to the emirates wen they spread their wings about? hardly doubt it
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Manu fans..
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Apr 16, 2009 10:07 PM
Here comes the economist.
Man Utd bought players from the money they won and won more with them. Not like other clubs who has owners to shell the money.
Dont give lames excuses like Financial constraints, injuries. Injuries are bound to happen in soccer and the manager needs to keep the playing 11 fit. Wenger did not buy or shell any money.
He says that he build teams but he is doing it for the past 4 years. SAF fas been doing that again and again and winning. May be Arsenal will become another Liverool who say that we will win next year every year.
U guys play well but in patches. we also lose sometimes but our loss will not affect the race to the title.
The so called debt is with other leading clubs like Real Madrid also. Dont drag that here.
See to it that ur winning trophies. Dont weave castles in air. Or u will ned up saying this sentence for another 10 years. "In 2003-2004 we won unbeaten".
We are confident that we will win.If u think it is over-confident, then it is upto u.
Re: Manu fans..
by vishal bhardwaj on Apr 17, 2009 12:39 PM
manu team will always play good ... when they keep buying players worth 50-60 million pounds each year. Compare that with arsenal in the last 5-6 years, they wouldn't have spent this much.
Re: Manu fans..
by ABHISHEK KORGAONKAR on Apr 16, 2009 10:32 PM
All the Manchester United critics shud remember one point : Man United is light years ahead of other European clubs , thanks to the once-in-a-millenium Sir Alex Ferguson.Petty clubs like A.C.Milan,Chelsea and the worst,Real Madrid have no class,no pedigree of their own.These are the scavenger clubs,they just rob other clubs of their playmakers using their financial clout.Thats' not the case with United:they create stars sorry,galaxy of stars.Ronaldo,Giggs,Beckham,Ferdinand, Vidic,Keane,Solksjaer,Scholes,Nistelrooy and now,Welbeck,Macheda...the list is endless.Other clubs have managers who are never short of a worthless babble;we have a manager who is never short of a glorious achievement.Glory,Glory,Manchester Ubited!!!!!!!
Re: Re: Manu fans..
by Ram Mohan on Apr 16, 2009 10:49 PM
well. real madrid is not much at debt currently. glazers hav got it wrong terribly with their finance at the moment
Re: Re: Re: Manu fans..
by g reddy on Apr 17, 2009 12:11 AM
look at the silverware cabinet mate....thats as sparkling as sparkling ever gets. wat u lack is trust in ur club's management and i dont blame u. calculated risks lead to glories.
Re: Re: Re: Manu fans..
by Pritam Sharma on Apr 17, 2009 02:38 AM
just two words for u all goooooners "sour grapes".. i dont believe it ppl here are discussing abt debts but forgot tht latest Forbes list says we are the richest club in the world..[check wikipedia] n beyond tht someone said we "bought" trophies..i wonder wht THAT supposed to mean...we WON it..to be precise..
Arsenal play well in patches really but honestly no match for United..the best in the business.. 23 unbeaten run in UCL..i hope tht clears the doubt.. Glory Glory Man United!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Manu fans..
by Kaushik Basu on Apr 17, 2009 01:50 PM
lol...lol...Mr Vishal...another sour grape.."momma...look they hv money...momma...this is not..fair"...go cry baby...we will bask in glory...n btw...wen CR7 came to OT he was not a superstar...jst a promising young winger...look how he has been grommed..look at giggsy, scholesy, neville...thts y MAN UNITED is spl...thts y SAF is spl
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Manu fans..
by vishal bhardwaj on Apr 17, 2009 12:53 PM
I bet arsenal will loads of trophies if it starts spending a quarter of amount Manu spends. Any club in the world can win trophies if they have money to spend of quality players. So whats so special about manu. If manu didn't have loads of money to spend, will they still win trophies... I suppose not.. no way.
Re: Re: A drab match
by g reddy on Apr 16, 2009 09:37 PM
u said it man.....quituple is wat we want. time to beat the 'sock stealers' on sunday. keep singin
Re: A drab match
by ABHISHEK KORGAONKAR on Apr 16, 2009 09:33 PM
A gr8 futbal match does not takes place when there is a goal fest.Sometimes winning is indeed everything!The most important thing for us United fans is that United achieves the immortal quintuple and finally the world recognises Lord Alex Ferguson as one of the greatest personalities to grace football, in the league of Pele,Maradona and Beckenbauer.United will redeem its position as the greatest sporting franchisee the world will ever witness!!!!! GO UNITED!!!!!!!
Re: Re: Re: A drab match
by Pritam Sharma on Apr 17, 2009 02:43 AM
theres no one here who will agree to it tht "goal festival" is a stunning match.. n someone called Ronaldo scoring a stunner is a drainer...
winning away in an important match is also something i guess..n we showed it last nite..which others english clubs like CHE, ARS n LIV never did in Dragao...
Re: Re: Re: Re: A drab match
by Ram Mohan on Apr 17, 2009 06:50 AM
dude.. go to hell arsenal has won at bernabau and at san siro against inter whn u guys pi$$ ed in ur pants there..
Ronaldo's goal was a stunner....this shows the real class of ManU......good to see 3EPL teams in SF for third straight year...now Barca will be under real pressure like last year as all 3 teams are from EPL....Chelsea is having advantage of second leg at home so 0-0 draw will do.....hope to see a Chelsea v/s Arsenal final and Chelsea lift the cup....go Chelsea go.
Re: Re: Champions league
by ABHISHEK KORGAONKAR on Apr 16, 2009 09:26 PM
2008,3 semi finalists were English.Manchester United were crowned European Champions!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Champions league
by g reddy on Apr 16, 2009 09:39 PM
now thats given......United r gonna defend the trophy and become the 1st club to do so too
My point of argument was most of us Indian football supporters , on what basis do we support a team? I see most people here just picked up Man Utd since its the most popular club . I am sure if somehow Man Utd gets relegated to the championship one day there wouldnt be a single supporter of Man Utd in India. I also wonder if somebody in India supports clubs like Newcastle, Nottingham Forest, Wigan, Queens Park Rangers -just for the love of the club itself. Until you love a club whether it does good or bad on the pitch how can you call yourself a true fan?
Re: For people who chastised me....
by arunkumar paneerselvam on Apr 16, 2009 05:22 PM
Its more like how someone can support the IPL in SA, one aspect can be appreciation of the game and other worthy reason is the very culture of go getting shown by these top clubs. Gives you a lot of confidence to face up in life..
Re: Re: For people who chastised me....
by Shak IsHere on Apr 16, 2009 07:02 PM
IPL has indian teams, indian players and run by BCCI. So naturally Indians will support those teams whether they play in SA or AUS. Your other point about the go getting nature of these clubs is pretty moronic . Going by that argument you are supporting a club which is winning today . If the same club gets relegated to a lower division guys like yourslef will shift loyalties to another "go getting" club proving to be the proverbial rat escaping from a sinking ship.
Re: Re: Re: For people who chastised me....
by g reddy on Apr 16, 2009 09:03 PM
so shak wat u r apprently sayin is IPL cannot have any non-indian fans? in these days of globalisation u r still stuck with age-old 'toad-in-the-well' idealogies. and as for supportin lower ranked football teams goes, i do support derby especially wen it comes to playin nottingham forest. the rivalry is quite intensifying. and that support stems from the fact that i did live there for a while. but my loyalties shall always lie with Man Utd. even wen they werent winnin' a lotta silverware a few years back. probably hard for u to understand the concept of it all but try n keep n open opinion. u never know u cud b converted into a massive football fan urself. cheers
Re: Re: Re: For people who chastised me....
by anand ramachandran on Apr 16, 2009 10:13 PM
Shak IsQueer is spouting garbage from his moral high ground and needs to get a life.. I am a football fanatic ohh wait a Man Utd fanatic and will continue to be so for the rest of my life...and just to wind others who think just like you..."I dont give two hoots about cricket or Team BCCI"...
Re: For people who chastised me....
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Apr 16, 2009 09:11 PM
Ur argument is totally baseless. There are many fans of ManU in India who were fans of Man Utd when the scousers(Liverpool) were at the peak. It is not like support a club when winning. Many constantly post in the BBC 606 Board.
Many Indians are fans of Italian,Spanish clubs.Man Utd are the most popular in the world and it is beacuse they are winning, winning and winning. Even if they lose they show character. Not like the stupid Indian team of before which never showed character.
Also Soccer in India is not exciting and is big drab here.
Pity that u r a Frog in the well. Just by mentioning a few club names does not mean that u know european soccer.
Dont gloat again here. Let the fans enjoy their moment. keep ur advice for urself.
Re: Re: For people who chastised me....
by Ram Mohan on Apr 16, 2009 09:24 PM
well said. im a gunner for the past 13 years and will rather stop watching football if my team gets relagated
Re: Re: Re: For people who chastised me....
by g reddy on Apr 16, 2009 09:32 PM
now theres a difference between a loyal fan and a plastic fan. most indians probably fall into the latter category and wuddnt think twice b4 changing loyalties. and i guess thats wat shak is on about too
Re: Re: Re: Re: For people who chastised me....
by Rangarajan Ayengar on Apr 16, 2009 09:45 PM
Rightly said. Most of the Chelsea fans are Plastic. Jumping into the Bandwagon during the time of Mourinho.
Re: Worlds Best Player - Messi!
by Jawad Syed on Apr 16, 2009 04:20 PM
Zidane was the BEST till the last world cup. Ronaldinho could never match that fete. Zidane was a match-winner.
Re: Re: Worlds Best Player - Messi!
by Rizwan Khan on Apr 16, 2009 05:11 PM
jawad syed you are mistaken. from 2003-2005 Ronaldinho was the greatest player in the world. He totally destroyed Real Madrid single handedly in a team that consisted of the zidanes and ronaldos. Even the real madrid fans got up to clap. This has never happened in football. Opposition fans applauding the opponent.
Zidane was the best till 2003. Then Ronaldinho took over. Now its Messi.
Re: Re: Re: Worlds Best Player - Messi!
by Ram Mohan on Apr 16, 2009 09:26 PM
but actually if u look at statistics ronaldhinho was much behind thierry henry. henry scored more goals and assists but was influential only for arsenal. for my money i agree to everything u say but henry was better than zizou and ronaldhinho at least in club level footie
I really enjoyed watching Liverpool go out yesterday and now United have made history as the first English team to beat Porto at their own ground. Best of all, Rio and Vidic were like rocks and Anderson was amazing. And of course the World's best player Ronaldo, shows the world his class, with the goal of the season. Are you watching Liverpool? Ha Ha!! WE ARE UNITED!!!!!!
Re: Re: loserpool..haha
by insolent boy on Apr 16, 2009 03:00 PM
thanks for the point mate. but why nobody is offering over $70 million paycheck to messi... i remind you i respect messi a lot too,
Re: Go Barca Go !!
by g reddy on Apr 16, 2009 01:45 PM
looks like u forgot in a hurry the amazing Paul Scholes's goal in the semifinal last year. and ofcourse the way barca lost too. u may have to eat humple pie soon enuff
Re: Re: Re: Re: Go Barca Go !!
by g reddy on Apr 16, 2009 02:36 PM
i remember messi playin last year n somehow barcelona lost. u dont think it might have been that United were a better team? a single player dont maketh a team.
