For PIO's thers no restriction to be eligible for a dual citizenship,it has the same benefits as person havin OCI card.
Only people w.OCI cn bcom a citizen of india if they hav styd in india fr a year. On the contrary, PIO's cn gt indian passport only aftr residin fr 7yrs.
Its depends on the athletes tht if they livd india fr as many years as the eligilibility rules apply, thn they cn apply for a passport.
Nonetheless,people who hav both PIO or OCI ar treated on par NRI's in all cases, excpt not votin nd ownin agriculture property.
The sports min. cn rule out this new policy if the athlete approves to not receive any govt. monetary gifts nd their facilities. As the athletes can train in their foreign countries nd jst reprsnt india. So this wud allow all facilites in terms of govt. assistence to native indians.
Bt shuttin out these playrs aftr represntatin india aftr so many years is wrong, nd if its based on performances thn only the coach of the entire indian team cn make their decision, not the sports min. or govt.
How cn the sports min. judge the athletes on their performances i.e provin their mettle in their own country, nd also thy ar representatin india bsd on nt bein good enough well in their own country.
Its the coaches decision to recruit and/or approve players frm all ovr the world based on their judgements whthr players will be good enough to play for their team nd take the team higher. Its def. not sports min. job to involve thmselvs.
THE LAST player who attempted to play tennis was Vijay. ince then he has moved to USA. My only hope for indian tennis is the hyderbadi Sania. if she can live in the jungle for a week and watch animals that would help her beat Serena and other wolves. India tennis has a comedy duo bhupathy nd Leander. it appears that they can only play doubles.
Ver correct decision. These tennis players are cribbigf because they want the cake and eat it too; they want to remain US citizen and represent India and earn their names in Davis Cup. They know none of them are good enough to represent the US. Prakash Amritraj is a disgrace.
Re: Only Indian citizen to represent India
by Devin Aaron on Dec 30, 2008 02:05 AM
-Indian tennis players ar good enough to reprsnt the u.s.
The u.s players themselves ar few in consistently winning the championships in recent years. Only the williams sisters ar consistent in winning frm the women's side, nd not a single tennis playr frm the men's side cn prove their mettle either by winning consistently.
Its nt abt being good enough to "represnt" a certain country, tht athletes play for. Athletes play fr themselves b.c of their passion nd determination to be #1.
Its upto the athletes wher to train nd representating a nation is jst minor thing. Usually whn represntatin a nation, the player is contributing to enhancing the sport w.in ones country.
Patriotism is nt a major reason in the world of sports, so pledgin allegiance to anthr country by jst living nd training ther doesn't mean they hav to be shut out to compete for india in future competitions.
The reason thy ar doin this is b.c players ar not performing well is not the big deal, as if indian citizen who ar born nd bred ar performing more better thn the non citizens of india.
Wht i gt frm the sports minsitry in this issue is actually the govt. can't provide any assistence to them. In tht case, its obvious only indian citizens gt assisted in evry way in all circumstances.
The major problem w.sports min. is thy failed to explain the rules to the tennis players nd a squash player nd now ar sendin thm back.
This is an irresponsible action on b/hlf of sports min.
sports ministry is appreciate worthy of having taken such a decision as these NRI players come back to india as they don't get to play in their adopted country due to a high degree of competition their.They seldom have any kind of indian spirit required to succeed and m not bluffing(u can check their success rates). More so,they hamper the chances of other indian players who r much more talented but don't have enough resources like their NRI counterparts in terms of money and contacts.So i urge all indian sports enthusiasts to not take it on a bad note as most of these NRI players haven't produced the so called intended results so far.
Re: i think d decision taken is right
by Amitabh Mohanty on Dec 28, 2008 02:28 AM
They are NOT NRI's. They are US citizens. NRI's holding Indian passport are more than welcome to play for India.
Re: i think d decision taken is right
by Devin Aaron on Dec 30, 2008 02:14 AM
So does the indian citizens who ar trained in india w.whtvr resources they have(not many), ar not producing results so far either.
Evn sania mirza doesn't have tht spirit to compete in competions fr india anymore, as she has alrdy gone thru rubbish controversies nd looks like she doesn't hav the energy to compete fr you guys.
Lonj jumper p.t usha had to pay frm her own pocket to train w.a an american coach tht helped her rankings as she ws in the top10 best athletes in the world few years ago.
Evn bhupathi trained in ole miss university in the u.s.
Its totally based on an individual strengths and how they compete, its not gettin to play fr anothr country due to competition.
An indian competed in the u.s gymnasitic team recently to get silver in the 08 olympics, he nevr made it to the final selection of the u.s team. It didn't mean tht he is no good, its jst he needs to prove nd rest of the decision is upto the coach.
I don't think its upto the sports min. to take out a player, its upto the coaches of the whole team to take out a player due to dull performances.
The reasons mentioned by sports min. is rubbish as they jst wnt to create these kinds of controversy. As if they ar doing anythin to improve the standards of their own athletes. The indian players ar jst as bad as the NRI counterparts.
All these politicians officials are corrupted and looting the country at every possible way. There are millions of our own people are dieing without food, water, medicines, basic facilities. These politicians officials don't have time to look into these important things but these useless guys are wasting their time in this kind of unnecessary things. It doesn't matter if a person is born in India or born in abroad; what matters is, his/her willingness to represent our country India. These politicians officials can't do anything to build a worldclass sporting facility with all needed equipments, amenities, talented coaches(atleast one) in our country but these stupid basturds are good in talking all these useless things. I could still remember an incident of our Indian athelete in 1988 Seoul Olympics; on the day he is ready to run on the field, his shoes got broken, he asked for a new pair but he was denied by the accopanied officials saying "sorry, no budget for a new shoe"; so, he just run on the field without shoes; one foreign journalist noticed this and asked him about this and he got the reply as above. What a shame!!!! Our country can spend thousands of dollars to send so many officials to Olympics but they can't buy a new pair of shoe for the athelete to run in the Olympics. If we have all the sporting facilities of world class, then, why our sports people go to abroad for facilities? First build the basement properly and then start to construct the home!!!!
Re: useless corrupted politician officials
by nina sharma on Dec 27, 2008 04:05 PM
Hello Man, Please don't spread total bull. Your seoul story is totally wrong. Don't blame politicians and officials for everything.People like you can please leave our country and go to a country where you find the ploiticians and officials to be competent. People like you who complain all the time is the biggest curse for our country.
Re: Re: useless corrupted politician officials
by Kalyanasundaram Venkatesh on Dec 27, 2008 04:49 PM
Ok, you seem to be a die-hard supporter of politicians and officials. Ok, great. Then, why can't as have good sporting facilities? Do you know the status of our Hockey? do you know the reason for the slide? After 1972 Olympics, our players wanted to have Astro Turf surfaces in many of hockey grounds in India. Do we have any of that kind? NO, so, our players are unable to practice inthe Astro Turf surface and so unable to compete with other countries? South Korea sent a bunch of their players to India in early 70s to learn the game; after learning it from us, they also visited other nations, learnt the latest technologies, implemented all those tehnologies in their coutry to train their players; so. now they are in top10 countries and they play every Olympics with professional approach and taste success; everybody know how India's hockey is. So, whom do you want to blame? is it our players? OR is it our Government which fails to provide the necessary facilities? come on guys, wake-up. Politicians and Officials are not from sky, they are from us only; its we/our people are to be blamed bcoz we are the one who are selecting these jokers to run the country. First build up the necessary sporting facilities and then you will see our athelets and players will stay in our country to practice their respective field. Without doing these basic things, it doesnt make any sense of these kind of policies; these policies will do nothing good for anybody.
Re: Re: useless corrupted politician officials
by Devin Aaron on Dec 30, 2008 02:30 AM
I agree with you, the sports min. approved of these POI nd OCI players in the beginning fr playin fr their country.
Now they cook up this controversy nd say tht issue is raised by some tennis player nd a squash player, b.c of the ind. sports federation not allowin thm to play fr reasons best known between players nd the federation.
Sports min involves nd thy bring in the govt. into this by bringin out crap reasons as thy ar nt swearin allegiance to india nd all tht. OK, is ther an audio device to record whthr they ar singin the national anthem properly or holdin the indian flag in the right way.
Wht kind of allegiance do u wnt athletes to prove, its jst sport nd pulling out an athlete frm competitions is purely basd on bad performnces made only by the coaches first. Not on allegiance or takin a national anthem exam.
Govt. assistence has alrdy been provided to NRI's. If indian born nd bred athletes ar not provided assistence of any kind frm govt. thn how come they provide fr NRI's.
The sport min. is comin back to block #1 of providing fundin to all athletes, as if they hav been doin tht in the past years.
I think the matters should hav been solved btwen the players nd coaches, not involve govt. or the so called sports min. By IOC not responding proves its not standing by the law, thy ar still some reconsiderations goin on.
Fine if the govt. do nt provide assistence to NRI's bt removin the athletes based on allegiance nd stuff like tht is not right.
Right decision by the Min of Sports. In that case, the Ministry of Sports should ban or instruct the BCCI not to project its team as Indian Team; because they are not affiliated with Sports Authority of India. They are only registered under Trust. Whereas, SL, Bangladesh, Pakistan etc. are controlled by their Govt. under sports ministry. Therefore, any State Govt or Central Govt should recognise BCCI cricketers and give awards, rewards etc. for their achievments as they are not affiliated to Sports Ministry. If a cricketer become famous every state offer him plot, flat, car, cash, railway pass, etc. without any budget? but at the same time the govt ask for unwanted details to fill up the deserted water holes in the villages and our Defence, local government, etc. spent lacs of rupees with a live coverage on Media?
