Hey kabeer.. its not narrow mindedness.. it is just to show that Raj runs an indian blood in him. Let US invest in him or whatever... Sunitha williams, herself agreed and said it is proud to be in her orgin country!!! why the hell you are not able to accept it... either u shd be anti indian or pakistani !!
RE:Its not narrow mindedness..
by Kabeer on Aug 12, 2008 04:41 PM
Dear Domainking!
Yes currently am a Pakistani; but I call myself a citizen of India (India undivided)
Am a relic of past! An old man living in undivided greater Punjab i.e.before partition
But does that change the merits or lack of them in my post?
Regarding Indian blood flowing in Rajs veins,
Go and get DNA tests done for most of Indians and you will find that it is a confluence of Iranian, Afghan, Central Asian blood flowing in most of the PUnjabis and some Mongoloid blood flowing in Bengalis etc.,
Where is the purity dear?
Purity exists in only one race i.e Sub Saharan Africans.
The rest of the world has a mixed blood and that includes Pakistanis and Indians too!
Can this fella Raj talk one Gujarati word?
I doubt, given their parents changing their first names to Bob and Sue!
What are you so proud about?
Ask himself! Be sure he would distance himself from all you Indians and will talk in a heavy American accent!
Whereas most Americans living in Lahore and possibly India too can not utter one local word without their own heavy accent!
RE:Its not narrow mindedness..
by Ashwin on Aug 12, 2008 04:59 PM
Very well written Kabeer bhai, we have nothing to be proud of. The bottom line is he won the medal for US period. He is an American citizen too. Lets cut the crap n stop fighting over a forigner. Cheers to Abhi
RE:Its not narrow mindedness..
by Yogesh Patel on Aug 15, 2008 02:37 AM
Kabeer yes he can speak Gujarati very well as I have seen him in Houston. I have a son who is 26 and born in USA and he can also speak and understand Gujarati. My son even participated in Raas Garba when he was 10. Everytime he speaks to us our conversation ends with "Jai Shri Krishana" which is traditional in many Vaishnava families. So without knowing anything about these Indian kids who are born and grew up in USA, do not be judgemental. Some of these kid have gone to varous countries including India to do volunteer work for underpriviledged children. First expand your knowledge base about USA and these Indian kids. They have adopted the best of both the Worlds and we are proud of them. BTW my son also creats great American music using some of the instruments like harmonium and Tabla. So be understanding.
RE:Its not narrow mindedness..
by hardy rock on Aug 12, 2008 05:07 PM
Kabeer , u paki, u calling urself an Indian citizen that too sitting in Lahore. Dreaming of an Undivided India?
I hope the dream of an undivided India is realised in our lifetime..
why are we Indians - esp. the media - so fixated about people who have left this country and earned name for themselves abroad? do they even care that they were born as in this part of the geography? why are we harping on their behalf? he played from USA and he won for that geography... big deal! stop pandering to such instincts that degrade our own nation but hype those who left this geography and made another their home.
RE:RE:why this fixation?
by dr divine on Aug 19, 2008 12:26 PM
he is now an american rather than Indian. So there is nothing to boost about. Also we indians feel proud to say that many of our indians are working in higher positions in USA at Academic institutions/Universities, Industries , NASA etc. If they are working there in USA then we should not feel proud about them just boosting about their success . All these so called indians have left their motherland and adopted USA as their destination. So it is our folly to boost about their success as they will never nor like to return to their motherland.
RE:why this fixation?
by desi dragon on Aug 12, 2008 04:28 PM
look at his face . He will always be an indian 'apu' Get a citizenship paper with their name on it wont change their identity.
RE:why this fixation?
by dr divine on Aug 19, 2008 12:25 PM
he is now an american rather than Indian. So there is nothing to boost about. Also we indians feel proud to say that many of our indians are working in higher positions in USA at Academic institutions/Universities, Industries , NASA etc. If they are working there in USA then we should not feel proud about them just boosting about their success . All these so called indians have left their motherland and adopted USA as their destination. So it is our folly to boost about their success as they will never nor like to return to their motherland.
RE:why this fixation?
by CMat on Aug 12, 2008 07:09 PM
Shrikant ..forget national, Have u ever played and won for ur school atleast..?? I bet not becoz ur comments dont show the sportsmanship at all....You not good at sports nor in enjoying it too...You can do nothign for country dude unless u change this attitude...
RE:why this fixation?
by domainking on Aug 12, 2008 04:33 PM
shrikanth... if there is temple of Balaji in USA.. does that mean Lord Balaji is american??????
RE:why this fixation?
by Yogesh Patel on Aug 15, 2008 02:45 AM
Houston, the Home town of Raj Bhavsar has one of the biggest Meenaxi Temple, Swaminarayan Temple, Chinmaya Mission, Shree Nathji Temple, Sai Baba Temple, Shiva Temple and many more. Poor Shrikant is misinformed as he thinks if I live my hometown then know one will know me. Poor Shrikant grow up and look at the Whole World as on place. There is religion and nationality called Humanity and Human.
RE:why this fixation?
by suhail on Aug 12, 2008 04:35 PM
He was born in USA and got trained there, why do u think he should play for India. Let people live their own way...
RE:why this fixation?
by Upendrachar rajagopal on Aug 12, 2008 04:33 PM
The point here is-Indians have potential! do not politicise it.We just need the right training and infrastructure.
If he would have been in India, the chances for going to Olympics would have been zero. The infrastructure and support given to him in USA must have been 100 times better.
RE:No medal if in INDIA
by vinay on Aug 12, 2008 04:28 PM
yes. in fact, even after selection in ind, he wud hv been removed from the squad at the last moment like in case of monika the weightlifter.
When can Indians get over this kind of narrow mindedness?
WHatever Raj is today, it is because of his country i.e. USAs inputs and training that was imparted into him.
Just because someone has distant origins to India, you cant be so proudly browbeat your chests whenever an Indian origin fella achieves something.
Come on Guys get over this kind of prejudices!
Sunita WIlliams was born and raised in the US and she goes into space purely because of the investments done by the US, but You Indians invite her and shower all your national awards on her!
Your Prime Minister has no time for fellow Indians who are suffering but pullsout some of his precious time to meet her and she give Gyan to all Indians!
RE:Narrow Indian Mindedness!
by Anup Dubey on Aug 12, 2008 04:27 PM
Well said......It's because we have lost confidence in ourselves that we go hunting for our descendants and any remote connections. This guy Raj has an Indian name but everything he has is American so what is rediff trying to tell us.......Rediff s**ks
RE:Narrow Indian Mindedness!
by Gomtesh on Aug 12, 2008 05:09 PM
our PM had sleepless nights when one person was arrestwd in australiya. so he cares for those who are out within country he has nothing to do with our suffering,because he is busy in keeping his chair & serving the madam
RE:Narrow Indian Mindedness!
by Tera Baap on Aug 12, 2008 04:31 PM
take him as a human and then post reply..rather then being racist, regional become rational!
RE:Narrow Indian Mindedness!
by dr divine on Aug 19, 2008 12:28 PM
he is now an american rather than Indian. So there is nothing to boost about. Also we indians feel proud to say that many of our indians are working in higher positions in USA at Academic institutions/Universities, Industries , NASA etc. If they are working there in USA then we should not feel proud about them just boosting about their success . All these so called indians have left their motherland and adopted USA as their destination. So it is our folly to boost about their success as they will never nor like to return to their motherland.
RE:Narrow Indian Mindedness!
by domainking on Aug 12, 2008 04:38 PM
Hi kabeer.. say if u win a medal in olympics.. do u put it in india tally or pakistan tally??? As you Raj also fees an indian.. just winning a medal to america.. will not change his identity..
RE:Narrow Indian Mindedness!
by CMat on Aug 12, 2008 07:15 PM
Kabeer when Indian PM took time for Sunita Williams..It was meetings between two intellegent achievers...whats wrong in it...?? We are proud of Sunita , Raj, PM becoz we r proud of India...If ours is slavish mentality wht is urs..?? Is there any Paki individual making some news in olympics...??
RE:Narrow Indian Mindedness!
by Shrikant S on Aug 12, 2008 04:28 PM
well said Kabir. Unfortunately, if the media spreads this kind of a message, everyone will be impacted thus...
RE:Narrow Indian Mindedness!
by vinay on Aug 12, 2008 04:40 PM
atleast raj has proved that indians hv potential to succeed in olympics after the bindra success. that is to be appreciated. ultimately, its the efforts of bindra and raj that got them medals and not due to govt supports.
RE:Narrow Indian Mindedness!
by Chanakya on Aug 12, 2008 04:39 PM
Kabeer, while I agree with you on your point that because of USA's encouragement and investments, these Indian Origins made world records - however, what we need to realise from this is - in India (and in Indians - let it be Sunita or Raj Bhavsar) there is no derth of talent - it is the pathetic attitude of the government in not investing the required facilities, encouragement and finance is what preventing (discouraging) the sports here. Moreover, the corruption in all levels, including sports, sometime makes the most talented person not getting the required attention/encouragement and recognition. but, still, we are, as Indians, proud of the achievements of Non-Resident Indians - after all they are INDIANS.... HINDUSTAN JINDABAD
It is good you left this good for nothing country which is being held to ransom my dirty politicians and cheap sports officers. USA has been able to tap your talent and nourished you. So you should remain faithful to your country i.e. USA. Just be proud to be an American because there is nothing left in this country called India to be proud of. All we see here is dirty politicians, cheap corrupt government officials, jealousy, caste ism, regionalism and all the other dirty "isms" in this world.
INDIAN OLYMPICS By our cricket correspondent Indian Association of Olympics (IAO) recommended the following new sports items which are coming naturally to Indians to be included in forthcoming Olympics so that India can win some gold medals.
Standing: Standing comes naturally to Indians and most sportsmen. Participants in it can practice throughout the year by merely waiting in queues. For the actual occasion, when the gun goes off at the starting line, sportsmen will stand and wait and wait. The winner will inevitably be an Indian. Team Spitting Event: A relay race where contestants are asked to spit in any part of a public building except in the spittoon. Red Light Jump: Instead of the long or high jump, atheletes will have to wait in vehicles at street junctions and asked to jump the stop light. Waterless Polo: As a prelude to the summer Olympics, and the lack of water in summer, the committee proposed that swimmers contest a waterless polo event, thereby also reducing their chances of contracting water-borne disease. Caste Relay Race: A 400-meter relay race in which the four national castes are represented along with other sub-castes and sub-subcastes. Public Urination: The Olympic Committee decided to elevate public urination to the level of competitive sport. Bribery: Archery in which India secured a miserable 84th position at Dhaka will be replaced by bribery, in which India will undoubtedly manage a much better one in the forthcoming Bhopal Ol
RE:INDIAN OLYMPICS
by Anup Dubey on Aug 12, 2008 04:31 PM
Sunil you are not only humorous but you write so very well. Great observation and the best thing is the way you have presented it. Keep writing....
RE:names
by Tera Baap on Aug 12, 2008 04:22 PM
you see your name and say where you came from? How shameless and racist you are that even don't appreciate his achievement.
RE:names
by appu r on Aug 12, 2008 04:40 PM
How can u say a stupid word like that. He is wining for the his country and he s loyal to that. U are also indian what u have done for the country, just check that first.
