Afterall he is an Indian. We could not explore the possibility of encashing his tellent as an India. Congts. Raj Bhavsar. Er.Ahmad Rais Siddiqi(Alig) ND,India. E Mail; araissiddiqi@yahoo.co.in Dt;12.08.08
RE:Gujarati-Indian won Gold
by CMat on Aug 12, 2008 07:22 PM
Kabeer ...Stop making "khayali Pulav "..It doesn look like his muscles are built from beef, ham...One has to take lots of efforts to built muscle..have u ever work out...Weak mind..?? Its all ur rotten thoughts....So get up and do some exercise now so u will have better body better heart, better mind, better thoughts...
RE:Gujarati-Indian won Gold
by Madurai Sundaresan SatheeshKumar on Aug 12, 2008 05:25 PM
Hi, you can eat beef (you could b doing that even now)and try to win a medal with just that...
People from many muslim countries would be eating beef but do they win medals in all these games?? think man.
its about arduous practice / effort, nothing else.
RE:Gujarati-Indian won Gold
by Akram on Aug 12, 2008 05:32 PM
he eats beef or HAM it is his personal beleif and habits nothing to do with others. Even he can be a vegetarian.
people who cry about cow slaughter easily fits in a country where pork and beef is flowing freely for few dollars more
RE:Gujarati-Indian won Gold
by Madurai SatheeshKumar on Aug 12, 2008 05:36 PM
Hi akram very true.Its all just money for most of the guys here.... what i was pointing out to kabeer was on his meaningless comment that eating beef would make one a gold medallist in olympics...
RE:Gujarati-Indian won Gold
by Guest on Aug 15, 2008 11:14 PM
As an American of non-Indian descent, I have to say a couple of things...first, we are all VERY proud of the entire US men's gymnastics team, especially Raj who caught many people's interest with his incredible team spirit (not to mention his incredible good looks!) Second: many people train on a diet without beef or pork, and third: most Indians here that I know and have worked with do not change their names to assimilate (my husband works in software, I am a Chartered Accountant, so we have worked with many Indians)
I find it interesting that race and national pride are so hotly debated here. In our home we have been celebrating all the athletes, and marvelling at the incredible skill, talent and training it takes for every athlete, not matter where they are from, to be able to compete with the very best in their sport.
Dear Rediff, Glorify American citizens as Americans. Don't link them to India or whatever their roots are! We are not desperate for heroes. For a 60 year old country of more than 1 billion, we are unmatchable. We are the BEST. SAARE JAHAAN SE ACHCHA HINDUSTAN HAMARA!!!!!
RE:RE:Glorify Americans as Americans
by vinay on Aug 12, 2008 05:20 PM
the point is that indians hv potential and he has proved it (after bindra did it yesterday). raj is definitely a person of indian origin (pio) staying in usa and he has done our community proud.
if v can appreciate good work of other foreigners like say, ande agassi, kevin peterson, and many others having huge fans in ind, why not greet in the same zeal, the success of our indian origin sportsman?
RE:Glorify Americans as Americans
by tom jerry on Aug 12, 2008 05:13 PM
Good to see ur patriotism...but please understand that the same guy...if he was in india would not have even got closer to qualifying for olympics with the kind of infrastructure we have. Let us all admit it.
RE:Glorify Americans as Americans
by Amit Nayak on Aug 12, 2008 05:31 PM
dear friend, thats what i have said. Raj did a commendable job...but for USA, not for India. I agree with the 3rd grade infra here, but P T Usha still shone. Mr Bindra is a Millionaire and has his own private shooting club. But didnt dehati Dhyan CHand and P T Usha succeed. These are indians, we indians, should be proud of. Raj will get his due from the country he represents. Why should India bother? to us he is like any Tom Dick and Harry from any foreign country.
RE:Glorify Americans as Americans
by Yogesh Patel on Aug 14, 2008 02:15 AM
Amit there is a Visa Lottery for America available in India. Go and apply its free may be you are lucky.
RE:Glorify Americans as Americans
by CMat on Aug 12, 2008 07:27 PM
With this attitude you r not good for any sport nor for nation...Bade bade naare dekar kuch nahi hotaa dost..If u cant do it urself at first place then atleast appreciate someones achievements. Then u can think about doing it urself too...
RE:Glorify Americans as Americans
by In Search on Aug 12, 2008 05:57 PM
Amit is talking with sense. Remember what Milka Sigh has vowed and did? He never allowed his Son to suffer like him! Now people here in the US (including Tiger Woods) know who is Jeev Milka Sigh!
India as a country and the sports authorities and people in such positions should feel ASHAMED WHEN EVER SUCH THINGS HAPPEN.
If few few talented Indians are able to make a mark in a foreign country, how many more of such talents are getting rusted in India. It is a shame that we are not able to provide the necessary infrastructure for identifying and coaching these talents in INDIA.
HEY MEDIA, DO NOT BRAG SUCH ACHIEVEMENTS AND HARP THAT INDIA IS PROUD OF SUCH PEOPLE, INSTEAD USE THESE AS OPPORTUNITIES TO HIGHLIGHT THE LACK OF SYSTEMS AND INFRA IN INDIA AND CREATE PRESSURE ON THE ROTTEN POLITICIANS AND LAZY AUTHORITIES TO ACT.
RE:India should be ashamed!!!
by thebedazzled on Aug 12, 2008 05:11 PM
I agree with you till the time u say media shud highlight the lack of infra and poor facilities.
But when u say abt politicians, i beg to differ. politicians are not gonna do anything. IOA is private body like BCCI. Not say of govt. Just takes funds and enjoys. BCCI is rich becoz media has managed cricket well. IOA is rich corrupt. Jitna mila utna kha liya. So we can start a parallel body like ICL did for cricket. It wud challenge the IOA
Nobody had ever any doubt on any Indian's skill or potential in any field. In fact, it has been accepted worldwide. But yes, when the same Indian lives in India everything changes for him/ her. Indian's patriotism, attitude, competition level, health, stamina, social mentality, passion everything remains 25 % less than everybody else in this world.
OLYMPICS is a mirror shows our Politicians are Impotent Dogs. Olympics is a benchmark of How responsible the Leadership is and how sensitive they are towards the civil society at large. Here the Lampoons wretched lusty animals only allowed to become politician and their favourite hiding place is behind 'LIKE PEOPLE LIKE LEADER" excuse which is a farce and shameless stupid argument. Politicians are themselves the most rotten problem of this Nation who only know to eat taxpayers money and loot the nation. OLYMPICS show how the Democratic system in our country is looted by the Impotent people called Politicians of land.
the point is that indians hv potential and raj bhavsar has proved it (after bindra proved it yesterday).
raj is definitely a person of indian origin (pio) staying in usa and he has done our whole community proud. lets appreciate it. to be appreciated not merely by the community there but by us also.
RE:forget his nri status.
by Varghese Baby on Aug 12, 2008 05:01 PM
If Lahore (Pakistan) born LK Advani now representing as the face of Indian Hindutva and also next candidate for NDA, then what is the issue if we proud with raj's medal ?
RE:forget his nri status.
by Gan Van on Aug 12, 2008 05:07 PM
Talk sensibly, when LK Advani was born, there is no Pakistan. Looks like you just need some reason to cry.
RE:RE:forget his nri status.
by Varghese Baby on Aug 12, 2008 05:16 PM
Then we can call Parvez Mushraff back to India, he is from Chandni Chowk (before India's partition) and give the position as President of BJP. How is the idea ???
RE:forget his nri status.
by CMat on Aug 12, 2008 07:29 PM
Verghese Whts ur comment ahs to do with this column..?? Try to appreciate someone sometimes atleast....thats a healthy way of living...
RE:forget his nri status.
by Suresh Pillai on Aug 12, 2008 05:24 PM
You convert Varghese.... Ur eyes are focussed only on Vatican and Christianity... don't find religion in everything.... make your minds little broad....
RE:forget his nri status.
by Varghese Baby on Aug 12, 2008 06:15 PM
Suresh scoundrel, where is Christainity or Vatican here. Whenever there is a debate you fools going directly to that place. Are you jelousy, fatherless..stupid fellows
RE:RE:forget his nri status.
by CMat on Aug 12, 2008 07:33 PM
Yeah right Suresh is scoundrel beocz he wrote about christinity,Vatican...and You..?? you write about Advani when the column is about Sports and Raj...what a pathaetic mentality..i pity on ur upbringing...May be u have better life in next birth(if u believe in next birth...)
RE:forget his nri status.
by In Search on Aug 12, 2008 05:05 PM
That's your faulty logic baby. Your LK Advani represents the India's majority (minus Congress as*es), but that athlete doesn't represent India! Yes, we should appreciate by saying Indian origin athlete has won the Bronze medal. But, the problem is Indians are quick in making lot of noise (read as self praising or taking the quick credits for no real reason!).
RE:forget his nri status.
by thebedazzled on Aug 12, 2008 05:16 PM
Same case for Indira Nooyi, LN Mittal, Arun Sarin and Sunita williams. And these people dont even spit on the face of rediff's of this country. And on top of that the system here repels them even away. I come to India, Customs as.h0les start the looting and it goes on and on till the time i come back again and promise myself not again. i keep the promise for 10-12 months hoping it would have change, then same story. I have given up now.
And this Govt expects help from NRI's
I will donate all my earning to NGO in India but Govt, my foot. The c0rrupt b-sta-ds
RE:forget his nri status.
by In Search on Aug 12, 2008 05:26 PM
Don't fault with NRIs and blame them. Do you know there is something called FOREX reserves in India? Do you know the NRI power? Stop abusing and disrespecting fellow Indians who are commited to India!!
RE:forget his nri status.
by Varghese Baby on Aug 12, 2008 05:14 PM
Dont utter a word mister. I dont think you are mister, may be both as per your name represents. If somebody says truth you cant digest, foooooolllll
No point in being proud of someone who is only Indian by origin. Raj has consciously decided to be a US citizen and his roots have no meaning to him anymore... Why do we Indians always find glory in the achievement of this kind of people who don't consider themselves Indians? They have their reasons... we have no reason to cling on to those who didn't cling onto us...If Raj was in India, there's a high probability that he wouldn't have become an Olympic medalist...so from his point, he did what was good for him. From our side, we should be proud of Abhinav Bindra and not talk about Raj at all...!!!
RE:Come on India!!!
by CMat on Aug 12, 2008 06:32 PM
With this attitude,You will never be good for Nation (India) nor for sports...and yeah if u might excell little bit in....that might be in the field of critics ..but again its the easiest job in the world, keep going for it...
RE:Come on India!!!
by vinay on Aug 12, 2008 04:58 PM
the point is that indians hv potential and he has proved it (after bindra did it yesterday). raj is definitely a person of indian origin (pio) staying in usa and he has done our community proud. lets appreciate it.
Rediff he is an American citizen...probably he can't speak his own mother tongue.Moreover his parents emigrated bcoz our politicians treat us like 3rd class citizens..Ha Ha
RE:American & not Gujarati
by Wonky Monky on Aug 12, 2008 05:01 PM
dude - if he is born in the US, his mother tongue is english. why do we indians have to claim everything?? There is absolutely no infrastructure for sport in India. Instead of trying to claim other peoples victory as ours, why not start campaigns to increase spending towards sport within India?
RE:American & not Gujarati
by In Search on Aug 12, 2008 05:02 PM
Don't over rate China and under rate India. Your country has great and tremendous potential. But the real problem is people are lazy, greedy and are not united for the National cause. To solve all these things India needs a super strong leadership. Perhaps better than Chinese, say a leader like Putin who can crack the whip of the erratic and lunatic Indians and make them to work. Then the country will rise, in most of the ranks including sports. And stop complaining about excessive population, corruption, illiteracy and whatnot.
RE:American & not Gujarati
by ganesh shyam on Aug 12, 2008 05:17 PM
totally agree we need a whip" & u shud apply for the post..Moreover are their any Indians serving the US forces????????
RE:American & not Gujarati
by In Search on Aug 12, 2008 05:51 PM
Yes please do, first I will eliminate the useless overheads living in India who only talk but do no work (even with jobs). Forget about US forces, please think about how your Govt. is handling the J&K situation so pathetically. I am not a BJP or any Indian party supporter (lousy democrazy is a big farce, worldwide fellow Indians have laughed at the great achievement in the Parliament. so we need complete over haul of the political system minus religion and reservations) under the name of Secularism your majority gets screwed up every time. Please don't mind this off topic.
RE:RE:American & not Gujarati
by CMat on Aug 12, 2008 06:40 PM
"Overheads living in India " LOL...You prrving urself with every line u typw..Keep going...LoL
RE:American & not Gujarati
by Yogesh Patel on Aug 14, 2008 02:30 AM
My son is born in Texas and he can speak Gujarati and understand Gujarati. We have kept our culture and we are also proud to be Americans. You guys are misinformed, come to USA and see how Indians from all the states in India have tried to preserve the Indian culture and religions in USA. They gave thousands of $$$ to Indian Charities like Pratham - which provides educations to slum children in Cities and Ekal Vidyalay which provides education to children in Tribal areas of India. We are Indians at heart and we still have same feeling for India as you have. At the same time we all appreciate the opportunities provided to us in USA to make our life better. So don't be judgemental insaying thay people of Indian Origin do not care for India. Learn to appriciate someone's achievement.
RE:American & not Gujarati
by Chanakya on Aug 12, 2008 05:05 PM
please ask the Americans whether Raj Bhavsar is an 'American' or 'Indians'... Indians even if they are born and brought up in US for centuries, will be called as Indians in US... check this out... then why we fight...
RE:American & not Gujarati
by In Search on Aug 12, 2008 05:08 PM
You idiot am typing this from the United States, why do you like to argue with me like a moron? Go back and learn something constructive! Tell me is there any difference between Indians in US (born) and Indian in US (settled) ??
RE:RE:American & not Gujarati
by Chanakya on Aug 12, 2008 05:12 PM
they remain always Indians...and we want them to remain Indians wherever they are... some hypocrates like you would be there in US too..we don't mind... still they are Indians... your languagte speaks your character
RE:RE:American & not Gujarati
by Chanakya on Aug 12, 2008 05:13 PM
the below message is for you Mr. Search... why don't you search for some commonsense and decency too
RE:American & not Gujarati
by In Search on Aug 12, 2008 05:40 PM
A true sign of a weak Indian! Sorry to say, please drop that ID it's an insult to that great Indian who has changed the world forever! BTW, do you call Bobby Jindal an Indian or American? If you don't know who is he try to find out or watch your Indian channel (not masala types!)
RE:American & not Gujarati
by CMat on Aug 12, 2008 06:36 PM
InSearch seems like ..You came in US since last few weeks....you have years to learn specially with ur attitude...Someone has disaggrement with you does that mean he/she is moron..??? it might be the otehr way around dude....
