How can you say driver is lying ? When Indian Railway has said that they will not punish anyone (driver and guard) and they will not conduct any investigation, then why the driver will tell a lie? He has no risk from Railway,then what is his purpose? On the contrary how Rediff is so sure that those people are saying absolute truth ??
If you are walking in the middle of the road, that is offence. Walking is strictly on Footpath or Zebra crossing; because riders/drivers of car/bike know that its crossing and will slow down. If you know walking in the middle of the street or in the middle of a railway track can cause death, then why did people walked towards their death? Railways tracks are meant for trains and not for animals or humans to walk/run. The smoke blinded the driver which is also a crime on the part of the organizers also causing pollution. My heart goes to the departed souls and their families. Those who blame the driver or railway authorities, I dare you walk on the track of a speeding train or walk in the middle of the busy highway/street. The court is supposed to decide and not the press/media for their TRP.
Yes, driver went to individual house inviting people to get on track. Then he rolled over. Still people said nothing to driver. Rediff shame. Do you follow ethics even in single news?
Up and down both sides, and he being not aware of the huge gathering is a complete lie, he must face probe and then law, the helpless kids should get justice.
One more thing if driver cannot see effigy of ravan burning due to smoke. than why was he driving at 90 miles per hour. He should have drawn train very slowly. As nothing was visible due to smoke and darkness. Can anybody solve my doubt. People having technical knowledge please solve my doubt but just want to know the truth
Train driver is great and who support them are also great but they should do this same on protester or those support band by coming on track but that time all humanity comes in first place.. Really shame on driver and their supporters
Re: Driver is lying
by Dhantannan on Oct 22, 2018 01:42 PM
driver has given statement, he could not see due to smoke and his horn not heard due to cracker explosions. Its not question of not supporting victims, We condole loss of lives. but it was unnecessary and totally avoidable. How can driver increase speed suddenly after seeing crowd in front? He was driving normally after receiving green signal. Sad but, on hindsight, he could have been more alert, but he may not have expected so many together on track. bend,darkness,smoke also reduced his visibility. Under no circumstances sudden brakes could have saved lives. in fact casualty may have been more, crowd plus passengers due to derailment.
In first attempt it is crystal clear that organiser of this event is responsible for this tragedy. They have converted the Dussehra celebration into the Congress Rally and called the people on the track from their houses and installed LCD Screens towards the track to watch the speech of Mrs. Sidhu. Shameless so called Doctor, Mrs. Sidhu sped away from the spot instead of paying help and medical aid to the injured. Organiser of the event is still absconding and not traceable by the police. It is sure that he is under the protection of police somewhere within the Punjab.
Re: Amritsar Tragedy
by ASHOK UPADHYAYA on Oct 22, 2018 02:08 PM
She came late intentionally ensuring mammoth gathering...had she came in time and event had taken as per schedule there would not have been tragedy...
Cut Pay to GovtMaadharChodhs (GMCs), Divert Money for Development
Nowadays many GovtMaadharChodhs (aka GMCs or 80% Gov employees) get pensions over 30K / pm, a gov peon or junior asst gets salary Rs 35K / pm, gov teacher 50k, lecturer Rs 1.5 lak, professor Rs 2 lak, etc.
I appreciate Modi's initiatives in collecting taxes, like GST, Income Tax, etc from the 97% hardworking people and businesses in the pvt sector, but what is the use if this money is paid as exorbitant salaries to 3% GMCs, of whom 80% are good-for-nothing fellows?
In pvt companies, only top 3% could be corrupt, but 97% employees have to work hard. In govt companies 80% are corrupt and / or laggard fellows.
GMC laggards, who eat up 10% GDP / yr, seldom work, but work very hard when there is scope for corruption. GMCs spend 80% time eating paan & spitting on walls, talking SexPoliticsAndNonsense, playing cards for 2 hrs when lunch time is 1 hr, etc
GMCs have strong unions and often threaten nationwide strike if their exorbitant demands are not met.
Pay good salaries only to defense personnel; reduce salaries of GMCs to market-avg levels and stop salary revisions. Divert the money thus saved to improve primary education, English skills, healthcare and family planning among poor, SC, ST, MBCs, etc and to support poor farmers driven to suicide. HIGH SALARIES TO GMCs KILLS PATRIOTIC SPIRIT OF NON-GOVT HARDWORKING CITIZENS.
(Instead of Rs 1Lac /PM to a GMC, better pay 10k-to-10 pvt sctr hard-workers)
Yes normal feature in govt. deptt, to save themselves on legal issues. But who will bring discipline in the country, our leaders, media, judicial system, police or public are discipline. OK I commute daily from NCR GZB to Delhi, can show you minimum 50000 people breaking traffic rules, Police is not interested to check anyone, wait for an accident and mint money from the person who can pay them for settlement.
First, one railway manager justified not having applied brakes for fear of a bigger accident. Then driver said he couldn't see because of bend. Then he said he honked. Then he said that he applied brakes, and train nearly stopped, then people pelted stones. . Administration says 59 people died. Ambulances say they transported nearly 100 dead bodies. More than 1 person seems to lying.
Re: Amritsar Tragedy
by Dilip Kumar Chakrabarty on Oct 22, 2018 01:10 PM
Whatever the case might be. A huge function was going on. When it was at the peak this unfortunate mishap happened. Surprisingly, rail gate man didn't know anything about this. It is not digestable. How can he be irresponsible. People did mistake and thousands of people do this mistake daily if you see on railway tracks. People have killed.... most of the authorities are responsible and railway cannot be single out. Anyway, driver is responsible for killing 100s more people. This will be known as a black history in Indian railway and all over the world. SHAME ON YOU. People lives have no value for governments
Re: Amritsar Tragedy
by Dilip Kumar Chakrabarty on Oct 22, 2018 01:10 PM
Whatever the case might be. A huge function was going on. When it was at the peak this unfortunate mishap happened. Surprisingly, rail gate man didn't know anything about this. It is not digestable. How can he be irresponsible. People did mistake and thousands of people do this mistake daily if you see on railway tracks. People have killed.... most of the authorities are responsible and railway cannot be single out. Anyway, driver is responsible for killing 100s more people. This will be known as a black history in Indian railway and all over the world. SHAME ON YOU. People lives have no value for governments
Re: Re: Amritsar Tragedy
by Dhantannan on Oct 22, 2018 01:48 PM
shame on you for blaming driver, tomorrow, you shall blame sky for rainfall and flood. Everything follows nature. Trains nature is to follow track. Humans should stay away from it.
Re: Re: Re: Amritsar Tragedy
by on Oct 22, 2018 04:06 PM
So you are only advocating killer driver here without repeatedly.. who are you... again it is already repeated here... Senior Engine driver - officially called as loco pilot is paid over Rs one lac per month. He is supposed to remain alert at all times and take suitable action to avert any accident or mishaps. If a death is caused by any action of his for whatever reason a crime has been committed. Accordingly driver must be charged under man slaughter not amounting to murder. in case it is proved he knew the consecunices of his action in handling the train at this high speed in poor visibility than charges of man slaughter amounting to murder have to be brought against him. Just because a thief enters your house (unauthorized entry) does not give you right to kill him. Similarly presence of crowd on railways does not give loco-pilot a right to drive into them. Loco-pilot is not a bus driver and is paid handsomely in view of high responsiblety he carries with his job.
Re: Amritsar Tragedy
by Dilip Kumar Chakrabarty on Oct 22, 2018 01:10 PM
Whatever the case might be. A huge function was going on. When it was at the peak this unfortunate mishap happened. Surprisingly, rail gate man didn't know anything about this. It is not digestable. How can he be irresponsible. People did mistake and thousands of people do this mistake daily if you see on railway tracks. People have killed.... most of the authorities are responsible and railway cannot be single out. Anyway, driver is responsible for killing 100s more people. This will be known as a black history in Indian railway and all over the world. SHAME ON YOU. People lives have no value for governments
Re: Amritsar Tragedy
by Dilip Kumar Chakrabarty on Oct 22, 2018 01:10 PM
Whatever the case might be. A huge function was going on. When it was at the peak this unfortunate mishap happened. Surprisingly, rail gate man didn't know anything about this. It is not digestable. How can he be irresponsible. People did mistake and thousands of people do this mistake daily if you see on railway tracks. People have killed.... most of the authorities are responsible and railway cannot be single out. Anyway, driver is responsible for killing 100s more people. This will be known as a black history in Indian railway and all over the world. SHAME ON YOU. People lives have no value for governments
