Guha has mentioned that RSS was of the opinion "'Muslims do not attach any importance to Gandhiji and his words unless it suits them" and "Gandhi was a leader gone awry".
Madhav Godbole, en eminent civil servant and by no means a pro-RSS thinker has extensively written on partition. He has the same conclusions as the RSS, after studying thousands of documents.
The problem is - if we have already decided on conclusions and then putting our qualities of Historian to prove the same, there can be no alternative to "Nehru - Gandhi the Great" & "RSS the mean"
Atleast after 50-70 years now, we should be able to study both congress & RSS a little impartially. But we are unfortunate on this ground.
RSS will definitely try to hijack leaders like Dr Ambedkar, Sardar Patel and Mahatma Gandhi as their own with the thought process of Sangh pariwar.One should ask them why were they oppossed to these leaders during their lifetime? This is nothing but standard policy of sangh pariwar of hypocracy and duplicity.
Re: RSS
by systems technologies on Oct 15, 2018 05:53 PM
There is one answer to this, if you are prepared to accept. Sangh is live organization, and it has to change (not pretend to change) if it has to survive. Secondly, the new leadership comes in the new age with new background, and it may not be fair to put blame on them for whatever had been in the early period.
When Narsinharao - Singh duo changed the path of economic planning & policy, did we blame them ? Actually, that was the right way to do "at that time" & it was wise to do it. They did it.
Same is true for any organization which wants to live.
After the partition, Gandhiji insisted that Congress to be dismantled to avoid taking advantage at a later date. Nehru has not listened to it and the disaster foreseen by Gandhi came true. Congress has made life miserable for the people of this nation. Why they have not listened to Gandhiji that time ?
Re: Gandhiji
by Prakash Bedekar on Oct 15, 2018 05:36 PM
Congress might have made many mistakes in their regime but credit has to be given to them for strengthening democracy and continued parliamentary system
Re: Gandhiji
by Prakash Bedekar on Oct 15, 2018 05:36 PM
Congress might have made many mistakes in their regime but credit has to be given to them for strengthening democracy and continued parliamentary system
1. British unified over 550 princely states into a single entity, Indian freedom leaders let India divide into Pak and India. 2. They ended Moslem domination in India and liberated Hinddus from 1200-year long subjugation that eventually led to the rise of Hinddu intellectual class who could eventually fight for the freedom of India. 3. British built excellent dams, bridges, railways, roads, etc which unheard in the rest of Asia (during 19th century). 4. British opened many universities and colleges in India, which helped Hinddus to rise as an intellectual class. 5. British-introduced English helped India to become a tech-superpower in the world today. 6. British rule considerably weakened the barbaric caste-system and superstitions, even though remnants of the system remain. 7. Due to better medical services, death rate dropped and life-span increased. 8. Railways, postal services, modern education, English medicine, etc rapidly improved the standards and quality of life. 9. British rule gave an equitable justice system whereas before that only village landlords decide in favor of few elite. 10. British rule altogether gave a new direction to Indians who were mired in ignorance, superstitions, caste-barbarity and opened an era of modern civilization in India. 11. Indians live in delusion that India very prosperous before the British. Before the British, 95% Indians were living pathetic conditions.
Re: BRITISH RULE WAS GOLDEN ERA IN INDIAN HISTORY
by Sandeep Singh on Oct 04, 2018 07:37 AM
The points you have made out are hard realities but British claimed very high price for these services!!!
1. British unified over 550 princely states into a single entity, Indian freedom leaders let India divide into Pak and India. 2. They ended Moslem domination in India and liberated Hinddus from 1200-year long subjugation that eventually led to the rise of Hinddu intellectual class who could eventually fight for the freedom of India. 3. British built excellent dams, bridges, railways, roads, etc which unheard in the rest of Asia (during 19th century). 4. British opened many universities and colleges in India, which helped Hinddus to rise as an intellectual class. 5. British-introduced English helped India to become a tech-superpower in the world today. 6. British rule considerably weakened the barbaric caste-system and superstitions, even though remnants of the system remain. 7. Due to better medical services, death rate dropped and life-span increased. 8. Railways, postal services, modern education, English medicine, etc rapidly improved the standards and quality of life. 9. British rule gave an equitable justice system whereas before that only village landlords decide in favor of few elite. 10. British rule altogether gave a new direction to Indians who were mired in ignorance, superstitions, caste-barbarity and opened an era of modern civilization in India. 11. Indians live in delusion that India very prosperous before the British. Before the British, 95% Indians were living pathetic conditions.
Re: BRITISH RULE WAS GOLDEN ERA IN INDIAN HISTORY
by Sandeep Singh on Oct 04, 2018 07:36 AM
The points you have made out are hard realities but British claimed very high price for these services!!!
Re: BRITISH RULE WAS GOLDEN ERA IN INDIAN HISTORY
by Prakash Bedekar on Oct 15, 2018 05:40 PM
You have many things to learn in history. First is unification of more than 550 princely states with India was carried out by Sardar Patel .British rule of 150 years is a small period in our history of more than 5000 yrears.
Re: BRITISH RULE WAS GOLDEN ERA IN INDIAN HISTORY
by Prakash Bedekar on Oct 15, 2018 05:41 PM
You have many things to learn in history. First is unification of more than 550 princely states with India was carried out by Sardar Patel .British rule of 150 years is a small period in our history of more than 5000 yrears.
As person become old his hearing, eye sight, remembering power decreases. So we need young leader with no medical problem to take better decision as we are nuclear power.
Re: Old age problems
by (null) on Oct 15, 2018 05:27 PM
Very true. But people who vote for the young leaders make sure that the leader is mentally stable.
Re: Old age problems
by (null) on Oct 15, 2018 05:28 PM
Very true. But people who vote for the young leaders make sure that the leader is mentally stable.
gets 400 plus LS seats in 2019, it should realise the dream of the RSS, namely, by
1. Scrapping the SC/ST act altogether
2. Giving respectability to the de facto feudalism (landlord tenant system) prevailing in much of North India, by which most of the farmland is held by a miniscule minority while the great majority work as virtual slaves on those farms as landless peasants or share croppers
3. Officially declaring the Rs 120 most manual workers get per day in North India as the minimum wage (against the Rs 540 the Modi govt has announced to fool those very workers and their families)
4. Completely banning the teaching of the English language for poor and middle class students and imposing the kyndi language everywhere by banning the teaching of other Indian languages
5. Cutting further the already miniscule budgets for public health and education
6. Diluting the constitution and eventually declari g the constitution itself invalid and bringing back barbarianism (monarchy)
7. Changing all school and college history textbooks overnight to claim no one came to India before muxlims did !
And then, the BJP must do what it has always itched to do and has been doing in secret so far.........
Revoking all laws protecting the environment so that crony capitalists can savage the forests, lakes, agricultural land, mountains for big profits and keep taking big kickbacks in full public view to run the worlds most expensive election campaigns, propaganda blitzkriegs, etc !
Re: If, as some bhakts predict, the BJP
by Sandeep Singh on Oct 04, 2018 07:34 AM
Mr. Komaaali Piri, don't make irrelevant blabbering on discussion board. You are nowhere near the topic of this board!!!
Re: Re: If, as some bhakts predict, the BJP
by (null) on Oct 15, 2018 05:25 PM
Like leader like the follower. The leader also makes baseless accusations.
