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At RSS event, Pranab speaks on nation, nationalism, patriotism


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damodaran mohan
DIALOGUE OK BUT NOT FORCEFUL ENOUGH. TO CHANGE RSS
by damodaran mohan on Jun 09, 2018 06:20 PM  | Hide replies

As a citizen he was free to address RSS which is not a banned organization but I think he did miss an opportunity of the intended dialogue to tell RSS more forcefully to break from past, 'change' and be more accommodative of other streams of religion and thoughts over and above giving voice to its own less privileged Hindus subjugated under binding caste system in a constitutional based nation building process. As Sardar Patel is reported to have advised RSS that while its central agenda of promoting Hinduism is ok but problem is the idea of promoting revenge or enmity against minorities based on the past by-gone age which is indeed troublesome. Agreed, the RSS Chief speaking before Mr Mukherji did make all the right noises about the country’s diversity etc making even Mukherjee’s speech sound more repetitive but what people want to see is RSS practicing the preaching of Mohan Bhagwat done in front of Pranabda. It was good Pranabda touched upon “…. increased violence around us….darkness, fear and mistrust. ….. free our public discourse from all forms of violence, physical as well as verbal."All in all it was Ok but nothing spectacular. The intended dialogue has to be more specific in reference to the perception of attempted revival of the upper caste and ‘Brahminical order’ of the past in the country with the emergence of RSS backed BJP in power relegating yet again the masses.

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damodaran mohan
Re: DIALOGUE OK BUT NOT FORCEFUL ENOUGH. TO CHANGE RSS
by damodaran mohan on Jun 09, 2018 06:22 PM
(contd.)The masses refers to the teeming millions of dalits, tribals. Minorities, the underprivileged , the downtrodden and the voiceless to irrelevance as happened during post Adi Shankara period in the country leading to decaying of country as a whole resulting to come under slavery of 600 yrs of Mughals and 200 yrs of the British.

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R  ponnabalam
Accept History as it is
by R ponnabalam on Jun 09, 2018 06:07 PM

Hedgewar as a 'great son of Mother India'My school teaching had never taught me this name.But it sound the name in the lineage of those who fought and were successful in thwarting Mughal Expansion to the south of Vindyas and were knocking at the doors of Delhi mughal empire.We should respect that lineage rather than preaching defeat -resultant patience to them

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R  ponnabalam
hatred created by politicians
by R ponnabalam on Jun 09, 2018 06:02 PM

.hatred and intolerance diluted national identity,""People do not have hatred and Intolerance;they don't have time enough to spare to hate and be intolerant but to earn their livelihood battling with around 50% of per capita income as that of Srilaknan.Let the ex.President come out on that T.V.interview long back when the then going to be P.M. said all Secular parties should come together,communal parties should not be allowed .Who was the communal party or who were the parties.?.A congressman later called the man who said this in TV as Nikkma .So all these are created by politicians like you.R.Ponnambalam

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MISSIONARY
BRITISH RULE WAS THE GOLDEN ERA IN THE INDIAN HISTORY!
by MISSIONARY on Jun 08, 2018 11:45 AM

BRITISH RULE WAS THE GOLDEN ERA IN THE INDIAN HISTORY!

1. British, ending barbaric dominating rule of Mozlems (who killed 600 mil & raped 600 mil HHIndus over 1200 yrs), liberated HHindus from 1200-yr subjugation, gave HHindus religious freedom and prevented India from becoming BarbaricIslamicRepublicOfIndia (BARISRI).
2. British united 550 princely states fighting internecine wars, into a single entity. British ended the menace 1000s of murderous robbers (thugs) in north India.
3. British built excellent dams, bridges, railways, gave equitable Justice system, modern education system opening universities, etc which rapidly improved the living & intellectual standards of common people. British modern medical services reduced death rate and increased life-span.
4. English language helped India to become a global tech & educational power, in spite of some shortcomings.
5. British rule considerably weakened the barbaric caste-system, superstitions, ignorance, etc strongly rooted in Indian psyche, though remnants remain.
6. No doubt Hinduism is the most secular, literature-rich religion, but Indians live in constant delusion—believing ancient Indian literature has all sci & tech; in 2000 BC, 90% were literate & rich; Indian economy 27% of world economy in 1700, etc. These are all lies invented by scoundrels to fool Indians. Before the British, Indians were living in poorer & pathetic conditions. INDIANS SHOULD CULTIVATE SCIENTIFIC & MODERN THIN

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s kumar
concept of nation state
by s kumar on Jun 08, 2018 11:25 AM

Nation state is a western concept and applicable to one language one religion one culture in one geographical area in which other languages and cultures are subsumed or eliminated to create a uniformity based nation. it is not possible to do similar concept exactly to india. the very fact that multiple ethnic cultures developed over last 5000 years shows uniformity never worked. we have to redefine our nation concept distinctly different from western concept and based only on indian conditions .(bcos our cultures took root when no other nations existed and) so we cannot apply and impose later developed principles of other nations. this is were the RSS needs to redefine its idealogy to suit indian conditions .....

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piri
Who are these gentlemen
by piri on Jun 08, 2018 11:17 AM  | Hide replies


fooling other than gullible commoners (chiefly North Indians) ?

If there is one purpose for hard selling patriotism, nationalism, culture, hyndu.....muxlim.....hyndu...., etc, it is to try and hide the gigantic theft of public wealth (through crony capitalists) that sustains the BJP and RSS cadre, organisation, programs, mass mobilisations, election campaigns, etc !

The Congress party, erstwhile masters of black money funded party work and election campaigns, has long been pushed to a distant second place in corruption by the BJP !

Nationalism....patriotism......culture....hyndu....muxlim...... what nice diversionary material to hide the BJP RSS massive theft of public funds !

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Ramachandra N
Re: Who are these gentlemen
by Ramachandra N on Jun 08, 2018 11:45 AM
another blah blah and mnore blah from this commie piri. funny how a commie cries for democracy now

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P S SHAH
Re: Who are these gentlemen
by P S SHAH on Jun 09, 2018 07:48 PM
Abe ever stinking Kaliye, the useless, jobless, komaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaali Buffoon, you so called intelligent(?) people vote for the party who is being rejected by the people of this country almost everywhere for last 70 years ? What is their progress(?) in 70 years ? They have only 16 seats in both House of Parliament out of total786 seats and have government in only one state. Still idiots, komaaaaaaaaaaaaaali supporters like this ever stinking, kalumal komaaaaaaaaalis continue writing their nonstop nonsense.

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subramanyam mupalla
At RSS event, Pranab says hatred, intolerance dilute national ide
by subramanyam mupalla on Jun 08, 2018 11:07 AM

This should be first thought to his parent party i.e. Congress before preaching to the RSS. It is the congress which is treating the RSS as untouchable and spreading hatred through out. Let Hon Pranab ji advise Mrs. Sonia and her crooks to follow this.

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subramanyam mupalla
At RSS event, Pranab says hatred, intolerance dilute national ide
by subramanyam mupalla on Jun 08, 2018 11:07 AM

This should be first thought to his parent party i.e. Congress before preaching to the RSS. It is the congress which is treating the RSS as untouchable and spreading hatred through out. Let Hon Pranab ji advise Mrs. Sonia and her crooks to follow this.

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sachchidanand dhar
RSS at Nagpur
by sachchidanand dhar on Jun 08, 2018 11:02 AM  | Hide replies

"""xxx says hatred, intolerance dilute national identity""""
If he is serious about what he says, why doesn't he recommend outlawing such books and ideologies which are spreading hatred and intolerance world over.
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"""hatred and intolerance diluted national identity""", but has it diluted the identity of religious Republics which are in existence?
Any one coming from grand old party should be expected to indulge in Lofty Speech and Lowly Actions.
So bothered about women and Children, why the provincial government was pulled down after the naked dance at Singur and Nandigram?

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sachchidanand dhar
Re: RSS at Nagpur
by sachchidanand dhar on Jun 08, 2018 11:04 AM
Correction:""""why the provincial government was NOT pulled down""""

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mani das
RSS
by mani das on Jun 08, 2018 10:59 AM

RSS is not an organisation that has come out of the blue but has been formed from the sense of deprivation the majority community has faced over a period of 2500 years where every invader has taken advantage of our disunity and culture of acceptance. Each invader has taken away our riches and imposed their culture by force. Today we have a nation when the community can assert their culture and heritage but this is been seen as communal. Still there are passive forces in the society & who are constantly trying to destabilise this culture of unity & acceptance in the name of secularism. These forces as usual are trying to take advantage of our caste system & are trying to impose their faith through coercion & conversions with the sole aim to dominate our political power structures & democracy. RSS is the umbrella organisation under which all these activities are countered and hence is relevant to a large population. The more these forces seek political power to rule us again indirecty, the more this organisation will act as an neutralising power to these designs.Hence, the only way unity in diversity can flourish in this country is to dismantle these forces & stop the politics of appeasement. Practise of religion and faith must be treated as a private matter as enshrined in our constitution and all public demonstration & assertion for domination must be immediately curbed by the state.

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