Yet, not a word about the elephant in the room - why the fully equipped and experienced HAL was removed from the deal and a 10 day old private company was brought in its place with the flimsy excuse that it purchased land next to Nagpur airport ?
Re: Oh, Mr Arpi !!
by piri on Sep 24, 2018 09:40 AM
And Mr Arpi, if your argument is going to be the stock one of the bhakts - that HAL is overburdened with work and is inefficient (the bhakts of course, never bother to support their arguments with explanations about why they think so), please read in detail the elaborate statement of Mr Suvarna Raju, ex Chairman of HAL who retired on 1st September !
Can you imagine british of french opposition in their respective parliaments discussing over sensitive issues on country's security in public as our congress party is doing? For congress power is most important and not the country. That's what comes out of this debate.
You can say anything to confuse us. But one simple question Why Reliance an Anil Ambani venture when we have HAL a very professional government enterprises. Is it just to get kick backs through an easier route. Or when Anilji learnt making Air crafts. But no wonder when Jio an non existent Institute is given 1000 crores grant and 3 years to build infrastructure along with elite institutes like IIT Mumbai anything can happen
Re: Why Reliance
by Praveen urs on Jul 25, 2018 07:03 AM
when you half knowledge - please don't comment. do you know how many crafts HAL has produced in how many years of work.. yet the craft has engine imported... we don't have the technology of gas turbine for crafts...till now!!! - Reliance or any other private sector takes it - coz they will deliver efficiently and in required time...
Re: Why Reliance
by Praveen urs on Jul 25, 2018 07:03 AM
when you half knowledge - please don't comment. do you know how many crafts HAL has produced in how many years of work.. yet the craft has engine imported... we don't have the technology of gas turbine for crafts...till now!!! - Reliance or any other private sector takes it - coz they will deliver efficiently and in required time...
Re: Why Reliance
by Praveen urs on Jul 25, 2018 07:03 AM
when you half knowledge - please don't comment. do you know how many crafts HAL has produced in how many years of work.. yet the craft has engine imported... we don't have the technology of gas turbine for crafts...till now!!! - Reliance or any other private sector takes it - coz they will deliver efficiently and in required time...
Re: Re: Why Reliance
by B B Sharma on Aug 31, 2018 10:14 AM
How many aircrafts have been manufactured by Reliance defence & on what criteria it was selected as off set partner over looking HAL ?? Any thing & every thing can happen under Modi regime like preference of non existent JIO institute of excellence over many functional IIT`s for decades. Hats off
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why Reliance
by B B Sharma on Aug 31, 2018 10:31 AM
If cryogenic engines , Bromos missiles , satellites to mars & chanderyan can be made under Govt sector , WHY HAL properly updated cannot make Raffle in collaboration with Dassault Aviation?
You can say anything to confuse us. But one simple question Why Reliance an Anil Ambani venture when we have HAL a very professional government enterprises. Is it just to get kick backs through an easier route. Or when Anilji learnt making Air crafts. But no wonder when Jio an non existent Institute is given 1000 crores grant and 3 years to build infrastructure along with elite institutes like IIT Mumbai anything can happen
Re: Why Reliance
by arungopal agarwal on Jul 24, 2018 05:54 PM
If so, Why HAL could not produce advanced aircrafts so far. So long it is manufactured in India, how it matters whether HAL or anyone else including Ambani, Tata or you and I, Mind set of govt. sector must go to fastely develop.
You can say anything to confuse us. But one simple question Why Reliance an Anil Ambani venture when we have HAL a very professional government enterprises. Is it just to get kick backs through an easier route. Or when Anilji learnt making Air crafts. But no wonder when Jio an non existent Institute is given 1000 crores grant and 3 years to build infrastructure along with elite institutes like IIT Mumbai anything can happen
this deal negotiated since 2007 , but orders not placed , all secrecy clause were discussed by the than UPA govt, & we are sorry to say that sonia & Rahu gandhi should know the amount fixed with Tech.transfer, other fixtures , missiles etc. .now due to emergent requirement of IAF it was taken up by NDA govt.when rahulgandhi met president of France why he didnot obtained the copy of documents as claimed by him that no secrecy clause are applicable. beside during UPA govt where all decisions are taken by Sonia why he could not collect such .the adamentive attitude of rahul is undesirable in the larger national defence ..
Re: something fishy in rafale deal- Rahul gandhi
by paul theo on Jul 24, 2018 10:15 AM
WHAT EXPERIENCE DOES AMBANI HAVE IN AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURE? A COMPANY FORMED JUST 15 DAYS EARLIER IS GIVEN SUCH A BIG CONTRACT, JUST TO APPEASE SOME RICH FRIENDS. DONT WE HAVE OUR OWN HAL.?
Re: Re: something fishy in rafale deal- Rahul gandhi
by arun kumar on Jul 24, 2018 01:29 PM
You want to say, Ambani will manufacture Aircraft. you too P. a. P u.
Re: Re: something fishy in rafale deal- Rahul gandhi
by arun kumar on Jul 24, 2018 01:29 PM
You want to say, Ambani will manufacture Aircraft. you too P. a. P u.
Re: Re: something fishy in rafale deal- Rahul gandhi
by rnages waran on Jul 24, 2018 01:38 PM
Exp not required Money is required to inv exp will be french part Pl go Rome understand well
Re: Re: something fishy in rafale deal- Rahul gandhi
by Dipankar Mukherji on Jul 25, 2018 01:07 AM
Paul Ambanis have purchased this co called Pipavav defence which already had contracts to manufacture Huge Defence ships. They had license to manufacture not more than 5 ships per year. Lots of tatical battle ships were delivered to Navy. This Pipavav defence was renamed to Reliance defense in 2016.
Re: Re: something fishy in rafale deal- Rahul gandhi
by Dipankar Mukherji on Jul 25, 2018 01:07 AM
Paul Ambanis have purchased this co called Pipavav defence which already had contracts to manufacture Huge Defence ships. They had license to manufacture not more than 5 ships per year. Lots of tatical battle ships were delivered to Navy. This Pipavav defence was renamed to Reliance defense in 2016.
Amongst the gamet of all terms agreed between the Indian & French Govt related to the Rafale deal,Govt Of India should clarify the role of Relaince. Where from on this earth has suddenly Reliance Defense became so important that the Dassault Corp has tied up with Reliance to service & manufacture the fighter gets in India OR is Reliance Defense roped in for channelizing the funds to the right accounts ? The Nation needs to understand why Reliance has been roped in.
Re: Re: Rafale Deal
by P S SHAH on Jul 25, 2018 09:42 PM
Is it not better that instead of becoming a dumb PM for 10 years and allowed huge financial scams Inder his nose in the 10 years regime of PMManMAUNsingh he is visiting various countries and has become global leader ?
But surgical attack can be made public? Because the ruling party thought it was advantageous for them to get votes in election. Any secret act or action cannot be advertised for the party's welfare but must be hidden for the welfare of the country, But deal of purchasing an aircraft for ops must be analysed with all security taking in to confidence the opposition as they are also patriotic citizens of India, otherwise there seems to be certainly some thing unwanted is cooking up
Re: cannot be made public
by paul theo on Jul 24, 2018 10:17 AM
BJP USES THE BLOOD OF OUR JAWANS TO BEG FOR VOTES,HENCE MORE OF OUR JAWANS HAVE DIED DURING THEIR RULE
Re: Re: cannot be made public
by LiveComment on Jul 24, 2018 01:26 PM
If you believe some unwanted is cooking then goto SC and file PIL with all the evidences instead of just doing hit and run.
Re: Re: cannot be made public
by P S SHAH on Jul 25, 2018 09:44 PM
Bewada Theo, the non stop drinker, you will find only alcohol in your blood which will be of no use to anyone.
Re: Re: cannot be made public
by Hattarki Feeds on Nov 12, 2018 06:24 PM
Good to see patriotism in you. But the point is if BJP or specifically Modi is misusing Indian Jawans , then tell me who on earth will properly respect and use our Jawans. No sir, pls dont blame Modi, for he is only refuge and only the proper leader currently our nation has. Any other person, let it be Rahul or Mamata - they all play their selfish cards. Modi is truely selfless and he will protect all the nation from all odds. He is equally respectful to all religions. LET US NOT COMMIT THE BIGGEST BLUNDER OF OUR LIFE BY TAKING AWAY THE GOVERNANCE FROM BJP'S HAND AND GIVE IT TO SOMEONE WHO DO NOT POSSES ANY PATRIOTISM AT ALL. TRUELY SIR, PLS VOTE MODI IN 2019.
