In the ancient India, education was limited to men among Brahmins, Kshatriyas and Vishyas, who were hardly 7% of the total population. The rest of the population was illiterate and ignorant. Under the British education was available to all people from all communities.
Though when confronted, HHindu elite argue that caste is not based on birth, it is a fact Varnashrama is based only on birth. Otherwise it cannot exist. There may be a few occasions that people from low caste are accorded higher status, like Vidura, Vishwamitra, Sabari, Matsyagandha, Gargi, Maitreyietc but they are exceptions, rather than rule.
No doubt Hinduism is the most secular, literature-rich religion, but Indian culture develops idiotic mentality and Indians live in constant delusion—believing ancient Indian literature has all sci & tech; in 2000 BC, 90% were literate & rich; Indian economy 27% of world economy in 1700, etc. These are all lies invented by scoundrels to fool Indians. Before the British, Indians were living in more pathetic conditions.
Having said that I agree with the fact that British came for the benefit of making money, no doubt, but they also left a lot of good behind.
In the ancient India, education was limited to men among Brahmins, Kshatriyas and Vishyas, who were hardly 7% of the total population. The rest of the population was illiterate and ignorant. Under the British education was available to all people from all communities.
No doubt Hinduism is the most secular, literature-rich religion, but Indian culture develops idiotic mentality and Indians live in constant delusion—believing ancient Indian literature has all sci & tech; in 2000 BC, 90% were literate & rich; Indian economy 27% of world economy in 1700, etc. These are all lies invented by scoundrels to fool Indians. Before the British, Indians were living in more pathetic conditions.
Having said that I agree with the fact that British came for the benefit of making money, no doubt, but they also left a lot of good behind.
Re: In the ancient India, education was limited to men among Brah
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 06:52 PM
again clever jingoism of words. U never bothered to refer to any scripturres on which u based ur argument that Indian scriptures sanctioned un touchabality.
yet again u failed to explain what is meant by King is dead andlong live king inur english culture, ur dukes, dutchess, noble men, peers, lords getting their titles by heriditary and whether its not a class divide which ur lot alleges on Indian culture
when did the education for women started in England ?
and why British, Colombus, DeGama searched and came to India if it did not have riches ? If Indians were in pathetic condition where was the ship load of loot they got ?
Even Chines travellogues write that Indians were prosperous so much so that they were measuring riches in market. Did u read Vijayanagara empire travellogues written by the chinies travellors ? This was why u british came here and looted. again Ur praise for British and saying that they helped India is like aThief building a road till door steps to take away the riches of the house. Now u praise saying they left road behind!
Re: Re: In the ancient India, education was limited to men among
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 06:56 PM
InVedic times, there was noDiscrimination in the field of studies. In theUpanishad, we findGargi andMaitreyi distinguishing themselves inBrahmavidya, the highest knowledge.
Re: Re: In the ancient India, education was limited to men among
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 06:58 PM
InVedic times, there was noDiscrimination in the field of studies. In theUpanishad, we findGargi andMaitreyi distinguishing themselves inBrahmavidya, the highest knowledge.
Re: Re: In the ancient India, education was limited to men among
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 07:00 PM
when did the education for women started in England ? UrXtianity does not even find them equal to Man!
Let it be with them. They are safe. Til the date our people get mature and undertsand the importance of our heritage and its value and how to take care of it, its better we dont have it. See the plight of what is left ..all Forts and monuments of Heritage... We need more time to really become responsible enough to have these things in our custody and preserve them. We can very well get emotional... but we are not yet ready...
Ur English systamatically destroyedIndia and its culture. U broke this country by breaking its education system. Yoga was condemned, and other such things which was held dear by Indians.
IfIndia was not rich why did uBritish came here to trade ? Why did VaDeGama and Columbus set sail to search forIndia?
Ur praise for British and saying that they helped India is like aThief building a road till door steps to take away the riches of the house. Now u praise saying they left road behind!
Re: UMissionoary stop this sham. Ur English systamatically destro
by MISSIONARY on Jul 13, 2018 04:16 PM | Hide message
In the ancient India, education was limited to men among Brahmins, Kshatriyas and Vishyas, who were hardly 7% of the total population. Under the British education was available to all people from all communities. The rest of the population was illiterate and ignorant.
No doubt Hinduism is the most secular, literature-rich religion, but Indian culture develops idiotic mentality and Indians live in constant delusion—believing ancient Indian literature has all sci & tech; in 2000 BC, 90% were literate & rich; Indian economy 27% of world economy in 1700, etc. These are all lies invented by scoundrels to fool Indians. Before the British, Indians were living in more pathetic conditions.
Having said that I agree with the fact that British came for the benefit of making money, no doubt, but they also left lot of good behind.
Re: UMissionoary stop this sham. Ur English systamatically destro
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 06:20 PM
again clever jingoism of words. U never bothered to refer to any scripturres on which u based ur argument that Indian scriptures sanctioned un touchabality.
yet again u failed to explain what is meant by King is dead andlong live king inur english culture, ur dukes, dutchess, noble men, peers, lords getting their titles by heriditary and whether its not a class divide which ur lot alleges on Indian culture
when did the education for women started in England ?
and why British, Colombus, DeGama searched and came to India if it did not have riches ? If Indians were in pathetic condition where was the ship load of loot they got ?
Even Chines travellogues write that Indians were prosperous so much so that they were measuring riches in market. Did u read Vijayanagara empire travellogues written by the chinies travellors ? This was why u british came here and looted. again Ur praise for British and saying that they helped India is like aThief building a road till door steps to take away the riches of the house. Now u praise saying they left road behind!
Re: Why bluff ? To whomXavier bowed ? TheSpanishKing or theLordMo
by MISSIONARY on Jul 13, 2018 12:34 PM
Some bad concepts are in every religion. The wise ignore the bad, outdated, negative concepts and practice the good things.
For example, take the case of HHindu caste system with religious sanction based on Karma theory. The caste system reduced 60% Sudras to the status of slaves and another 25% to the status of untouchables, worse than animals. But we cannot say the whole Hindusimm is bad. Leave bad things and practice good things. Christianity changed a lot with time. Izlam is the most brutal religion and Muzzzlims do not want change with time.
Re: Re: Why bluff ? To whomXavier bowed ? TheSpanishKing or theLo
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 12:44 PM
Again either clever use of words or juvenile understanding ofHinduism by you. How is that you are conjoining Karma theory with untouchabality? Yes Untouchability was bad and must be condemned and we have done it. However it was not sanctioned by religion. It was a practise corrupted in ages. Original scriptures devided on basis of ones work and not onBirth.
What abt the day of judgement in ur religion ? isnt it based on Karma too ? Even redemption byChrist and absolution byChurch is subject to onesMental redemption and willingness to do goodKarma herein after. Agree or not?
Re: Re: Why bluff ? To whomXavier bowed ? TheSpanishKing or theLo
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 12:45 PM
Again either clever use of words or juvenile understanding ofHinduism by you. How is that you are conjoining Karma theory with untouchabality? Yes Untouchability was bad and must be condemned and we have done it. However it was not sanctioned by religion. It was a practise corrupted in ages. Original scriptures devided on basis of ones work and not onBirth.
What abt the day of judgement in ur religion ? isnt it based on Karma too ? Even redemption byChrist and absolution byChurch is subject to onesMental redemption and willingness to do goodKarma herein after. Agree or not?
Re: Re: Re: Why bluff ? To whomXavier bowed ? TheSpanishKing or t
by MISSIONARY on Jul 13, 2018 01:22 PM
Though when confronted, HHindu elite argue that caste is not based on birth, it is a fact Varnashrama is based only on birth. Otherwise it cannot exist. There may be a few occasions that people from low caste are accorded higher status, like Vidura, Vishwamitra, Sabari, Matsyagandha, etc but they are exceptions, rather than rule.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why bluff ? To whomXavier bowed ? TheSpanishKing
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 02:26 PM
Uhh the regularXtian innuendos and false propaganda. If only u could show some proof in the scriptures u quote. Pl make sure they are original and notMaculay edited.
BTW Why no comments onKarma or repetense and goodKarma forRedemption ?
and did I hear it right in English ? King is dead and long live king? The ones who rever with Kings by hereditary, Lords by birth, ladies , dukes looking down on common men speak of Varna system !
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why bluff ? To whomXavier bowed ? TheSpanishK
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 02:30 PM
law of le mort saisit le vif? BTW Who is ur next King ? The one who killed his WifeDiana?
Shashi Tarooooor is a big FOOOOOOL by
MISSIONARY on Jul 13, 2018 11:32 AM | Hide replies | Hide message
Shashi Tarooooor is a big FOOOOOOL
Let this thug go and read what Tipu Sulatan has done to Kerala HHindus.
Recently Tharoor wrote an article demanding that Britain should return to the artifacts displayed in British Museum. I argue that It is better that these artifacts be in British Museum than in the hands of thugs like Shashi Tharoor, other Congress fellows, etc.. There is no dearth of thugs in India. If they are in British Museum, still the fact that those artifacts are from India is glaringly obvious... then why worries? It is still clear that Kohinoor in the British Crown is from India. It is better that these valuable be in Britain than collecting cobwebs in India or disappearing into the hands of anonymous thugs.
Tharoor married 3 womenn and could not get along with any one of them. This fellow seems to be an unscrupulous womanizer. Now he wants to talk morals.
British hanged at least 50000 Ulemas and 10 lakh Mozlem rebels in 1857-58. Only 1 lakh HHindus were killed.
Ghalib commented in 1858: Delhi's soil got soaked in Mozlem bloood.
I argue that in spite of occasional abuses, British Rule was still the Golden Era in the history of India. He also wrote a book criticizing British rule. Let this thug go and read what Tipu Sulatan has done to Kerala HHindus.
Re: Shashi Tarooooor is a big FOOOOOOL
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 11:38 AM
Let both theBastardTippu andBastardFrancisXavier who led theInquests inGoa beDamned for EternalHell.
Re: Re: Shashi Tarooooor is a big FOOOOOOL
by MISSIONARY on Jul 13, 2018 11:42 AM
It was the Portugese authorities who led the inquest rather than Xavier. Anyway British were very liberal when it came religion, they never forced.
Re: Re: Re: Shashi Tarooooor is a big FOOOOOOL
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 12:00 PM
It was Rome which sanctioned the Inquest and theKillings.. Would u agree that they all beDamned ? Yes or again clever use of words?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Shashi Tarooooor is a big FOOOOOOL
by MISSIONARY on Jul 13, 2018 12:06 PM
No, it was Potugese and Spanish who used to carry out inquisitions. Many in Portugal also raised objections against Goan inquisition, but were muzzled by the authorities.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shashi Tarooooor is a big FOOOOOOL
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 12:13 PM
U forgot to say it was all in the name of theLordMeriful. after all theXtians look down on Pagans as barbarians. right?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shashi Tarooooor is a big FOOOOOOL
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 12:14 PM
U forgot to say it was all in the name of theLordMeriful. after all theXtians look down on Indians asPagans andBarbarians. right?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shashi Tarooooor is a big FOOOOOOL
by MISSIONARY on Jul 13, 2018 12:16 PM | Hide message
Some bad concepts are in every religion. The wise ignore the bad, outdated, negative concepts and practice the good things.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shashi Tarooooor is a big FOOOOOOL
by Ramachandra N on Jul 13, 2018 12:16 PM
Why bluff ? To whomXavier bowed ? TheSpanishKing or theLordMostMercifull , theFather ofChrist? Spanish were temporalKillers theXavier was theSpititualKiller ofIndians
