For those saying Modi did a masterstroke or played a smart move or some saying he did a U turn have little idea that foreign policies are result of consultation with different stakeholders in India such as businesses, foreign office, GOI, IAS Officers etc.
India was under the impression that that aligning with west will give us more dividends but reality is EU, USA and UK want to use India against China with fake diplomacy whereas back home they are promulgating unprecedented protectionism, populist measure, trade barrier, anti immigration and anti globalization whereas the reality is 21st century belongs to globalized and interconnected world. Be it from tightening visas, deporting Indians, increasing tax and benefits for locals first policies they are succumbing to sheer populism. China and India have common goal here.
Together India and China drives 40% of global population and if they work in tandem, they can make world open to anti globalization standard which even some countries like Singapore, Malaysia and thailand along with west have adopted recently.
The head leader of India must warn to these hypocrite western nations that without India, it is just a greater china in south east asia and central asia and now even china is eyeing africa and europe. Dont treat us like junk if you want us to compete with them but help us to grow by removing those anti globalization measures you have taken
Re: Relationship with China was on cards
by daniel thorat on Apr 28, 2018 02:48 PM
One of the two sides is highlighted here. The tall talk of fastest growing Indian economy and 40%world population being driven by these two countries etc. is a fashionable lie or half truth. The huge population of India needs to consume things to survive, and they will buy it from somewhere. So also with China. So many years now China never starved for something from India. The curse of Indian economic talk is nothing but intelligent sounding jargon, and short of full understanding. What happenes if a war breaks out, any where? Thge country has already see the highly disruptive actios taken by the PM re: DeMon, GST etc. etc. If any further highly disruptive orders are avoided, the country will experience peace and calm. /the imaginary issues will be taken care of by the new govt.
Re: Relationship with China was on cards
by RAJ on Apr 28, 2018 03:02 PM
Sameer , intelligent observation. Being an NRI and having spent good no of years as Senior executive in India and OS I think our bureaucracy is working sharply under present Govt, else I had seen many of our ambassadors just doing boot polish jobs in the past.All visits and meetings are the handiwork of IFS lobby. Jai Hind
Re: Relationship with China was on cards
by JITEN HAZARIKA on Apr 28, 2018 10:35 PM
China sees India as their market to sell products and nothing more than that. China is trying to be No. 1 super power in the world and make India as their biggest market. This meeting will prove to be a show piece in the interest of China. China will never allow India to be great power and not allow to get NSG membership.
New World order is emerging and Asia is the future that holds ... because the Europe is now losing its economic significance and now Asia especially India is an emerging economy and a powerful India cannot be ignored. Modi is pioneering his own and relevent new Foreign Policy deviating from the past Nehruvian legacy which is irrelevant Post Cold war era . The old hawks may cry foul but he is pursuing a new Path which may benefit India economically & militarily .It will be very interesting how India can find a place as a permanent member in the new Security council. It is also very important how India deals with an unpredictable China...which has boundary dispute with most of us neighbour. If China has to grow in stature as a world leader it must build trust with its neighbour ,especially India, because in a long run it will benefit both
Re: Re: New World Order
by Ram Niwas on Apr 28, 2018 10:31 PM
We must control the same. Best way is to cut useless imports from China. Why should we waste money on toys, garments etc. This money should be utilized on constructive projects of national development.
Re: Re: New World Order
by Ram Niwas on Apr 28, 2018 10:31 PM
We must control the same. Best way is to cut useless imports from China. Why should we waste money on toys, garments etc. This money should be utilized on constructive projects of national development.
Re: Re: New World Order
by Ram Niwas on Apr 28, 2018 10:32 PM
We must control the same. Best way is to cut useless imports from China. Why should we waste money on toys, garments etc. This money should be utilized on constructive projects of national development.
Re: New World Order
by daniel thorat on Apr 28, 2018 02:57 PM
The New World Order is pure talk and myth. Europe and other advanced countries are losing their relevance because of what, their small population? Certain false doctrines are supporting such beliefs. They are still very relevant because they have vast destructive powers and technology.Despite all the pep talks we hear about ourselves we cannot do without them. China visit is doing little about that.
so demonstrably between North and South Koreas, China has added one more feather in its feather heavy cap !
It has been long and hard at work to evolve an accord between the 2 Koreas in order to carry forward its effort at forming a very large and cohesive regional bloc that would settle down to become a giant market for itself with the willing consent of every country involved. Its BRI is the biggest and most ambitious trans border market integration exercise ever undertaken in human history.
Along the way, China has sent another signal to the US and its regional ally, Japan, to be much more wary in future of venturing too much into Asian affairs !
The US can only gawk in helplessness for a long time to come as its pre eminence in the world order keeps evaporating away !
The wonderful photoops are certainly done by expert photographers. They show our PM`s animated gestures pointing towards the sky etc. I missed the hugging, which may not mean much any way. What is perplexing is that both leaders " would issue strategic guidance to their respective militaries", which have by now perhaps been issued. "Strategetic" only means about carrying out a war or a battle, not about peace moves.All of us surely want peace and friendship with all, including China. Why issue strategic guidance?
Re: Re: PM`s China visit
by P S SHAH on Apr 28, 2018 01:44 PM
And what about you Kaliye ? Are you not imitate the way the useless and flop party you blindly support which is being rejected by the people of this country almost everywhere ?
Re: Re: Re: PM`s China visit
by piri on Apr 28, 2018 02:00 PM | Hide message
What about you, open defecator ?
Are you not copy pasting the same set of words in your broken English from board to board, thread to thread ??
And arent you far too stuxpid to even realise how much of a clown you keep on making of yourself ?
Ignorance is indeed bliss for you, right, you dumbo ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: PM`s China visit
by RAJ on Apr 28, 2018 03:05 PM
Piri , we all know u by now. But you have never answered my questions to u. What is ur qualification and how much itax u hv paid in life. Data etc is ok which u throw but give few facts so that we realise that u are making correct comments about Indians or u dont deserve to be on this forum.. Jai Hind
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PM`s China visit
by P S SHAH on Apr 28, 2018 03:18 PM
Raj, he is a big liar who claim to have worked in the organisation like Larsen& Toubro and staying inMumbai. I don’t think that the company like Larsen&Toubro willever appointsuch dirty, kalumal, ever stinking person in their organisation. He seem to be a commie supporter staying in some hutments in some backward area of Kerala.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PM`s China visit
by P S SHAH on Apr 28, 2018 03:18 PM
Raj, he is a big liar who claim to have worked in the organisation like Larsen& Toubro and staying inMumbai. I don’t think that the company like Larsen&Toubro willever appointsuch dirty, kalumal, ever stinking person in their organisation. He seem to be a commie supporter staying in some hutments in some backward area of Kerala.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PM`s China visit
by P S SHAH on Apr 28, 2018 03:20 PM
Raj, when you ask some uncomfortable questions, this komaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaali rushed to his hideout to avoid giving any answers. Now he will come back only at mid night,his usual time to continue his nonsense.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PM`s China visit
by P S SHAH on Apr 28, 2018 07:16 PM
If a person is not qualified or even if qualified but is totally useless and jobless , using fake identity, and has only activity to pass his all idle time sitting in municipal or government free library and towrite long and useless comments and repeated copy ashes can not be ina position to give anyanswer toany one.Stillthis idiot think he has alltge right toquestion and criticise each and every move of PM Modi. The only place in future for such jobless, useless,depressed, frustrated, bias, colourblind, jealous Buffoon can be only mental hospital.
Re: Re: Re: Re: PM`s China visit
by P S SHAH on Apr 28, 2018 03:13 PM
Abe ever stinking, dirty, ugly, commie, useless, jobless komaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaali Bugffoon, the master in defecation in open, have you ever washed or cleaned your ever stinking, dirty, kaaaaaaali bottom?
Re: Re: Re: Re: PM`s China visit
by P S SHAH on Apr 28, 2018 03:28 PM
Abe ever stinking, dirty, Kaliye, do you have any other activities other than writing long and useless comments and posting repeated copy pastes all the time ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: PM`s China visit
by P S SHAH on Apr 28, 2018 03:28 PM
Abe ever stinking, dirty, Kaliye, do you have any other activities other than writing long and useless comments and posting repeated copy pastes all the time ?
Re: PM`s China visit
by bakchod on Apr 28, 2018 01:41 PM
Read the whole statement. Then you don't have to ask redundant questions like this. From the article:
"And to this end, the two leaders decided that they would issue strategic guidance to their respective militaries, to strengthen communications, to build trust and understanding, to implement various confidence-building measures which have already been agreed upon by the two sides and to strengthen existing institutional mechanisms to prevent and manage situations in the border areas"
The wonderful photoops are certainly done by expert photographers. They show our PM`s animated gestures pointing towards the sky etc. I missed the hugging, which may not mean much any way. What is perplexing is that both leaders " would issue strategic guidance to their respective militaries", which have by now perhaps been issued. "Strategetic" only means about carrying out a war or a battle, not about peace moves.All of us surely want peace and friendship with all, including China. Why issue strategic guidance?
Re: PM`s China visit
by bakchod on Apr 28, 2018 01:43 PM
Read the whole statement. Then you don't have to ask redundant questions like this.
"And to this end, the two leaders decided that they would issue strategic guidance to their respective militaries, to strengthen communications, to build trust and understanding, to implement various confidence-building measures which have already been agreed upon by the two sides and to strengthen existing institutional mechanisms to prevent and manage situations in the border areas".
Re: Re: PM`s China visit
by daniel thorat on Apr 28, 2018 02:37 PM
Before going nobody said anything like this at all. Even if it would have been said, it has no specific meaning and is naive.This viit is nothing but projecting the electioneering champiion minister PM, hogging lime light, which will never been written and signed etc. That is what is seems to be, and nothing else. In the last year of this govt. moey is squandered for something nowhere told, discussed. It looks like a pure hoax.
Re: Re: Re: PM`s China visit
by RAJ on Apr 28, 2018 03:13 PM
Daniel throttle why dont u and the babby president of party go to Burma on a similar visit and make statements to win Kar elections and prepare for 2019 LS. Jai Hind
Re: Balance Between China and US
by Suresh Pachori on Apr 28, 2018 01:05 PM
The bonhomie being shown by Xi is only because Trump was breathing down his neck and NKs too. For far too long China has been using NK as a buffer against US so byoffering 'friendship' to India, Xi does not want to face two adversaries at once. Letus see how the SK and NK with dangerous talk of reunification comes about till then there will be peace in this part of the world. The message is clear that both the militaries will not move on another 'Doklam'. The status quo will be maintained for the time being. What this means for CPEC is not clear, Modi is not the type to surrender on CPEC, he cannot afford to.
Re: Balance Between China and US
by Rakesh Dandekar on Apr 28, 2018 01:26 PM
If USA is not agreed this relation this will be loss to India because some 6.5 lakh H1B visa people are working. he is Trump and Republican Party never cooperated with India during 1947. during Nixon, Indira Gandhi never give him any respect besides that she made friendship with USSR and win Bangla Desh War. Dont keep much hope with Mr. Trumph even Mr. Modi visit many time but they are heartily against with Indian development. Let us hope what the best result will come if any thing is going wrong then you people are blaming Ramayana/Mahabharat history i.e. congress ruling. Out of 195 countries in the work our PM must have visited nearly half of this country and till await good friendship with India from these countries. every one country is interested to sell their product to India instead of purchasing from India. this is the present senerio in India export.
