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ISRO confirms losing communication with GSAT-6A


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R  ponnabalam
SUCCESS is a little more hard work,a little more perseverence, a
by R ponnabalam on Apr 02, 2018 04:34 PM

ISRO had not guaranteed that every time it tries something that would succeed.India keep quiet.Appreciate the effort.Know how to take work,A colleague told this old case(happened much before 1985)to me in 1985 :in a Marwari company,( a reputed group but I am not writing the name). a project failed.The Project in charge accepted the failure and told the owner ," I will resign and Go."The owner asked,How much is the loss? The project Incharge told the loss.The owner told the Proj. incharge,"when you go away , give me that loss and go. loss has to be made up,'" Then he went on "Man! failures happen.You should work with double tripple vigour bring up success and make up the loss.That is what I say make up the loss.Don't lose heart.Work sincerely.Success will come.R.Ponnambalam

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Tariq Hasan
ISRO
by Tariq Hasan on Apr 01, 2018 05:57 PM

ISRO has had few failures. By and large a very successful organisation. Why do we always sing high praises in success and the moment there is a failure start criticism. Rocket science is rocket science, there will be a few failures, we have to accept it.

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rajarshi banerjee
Why is there no punishment for failure?
by rajarshi banerjee on Apr 01, 2018 04:31 PM  | Hide replies

Failures happened in all space agencies including US, France, Russia, European etc but what I am wondering is why are heads not rolling? After all thousands of crores of public money is spent in developing space programmes & thousands of man hours. Rocket science means 100% perfection, 99.99% can lead to a failure, so what action is being taken against those who were responsible for the technical fault that has occured at the 4th stage?

We are more than eager to jump & catch police, politicians, beaureucrats, govt servants, babus, MLAs, corporators & media shouts from roof tops when the money involved in many of these cases are lesser. Then why is the media so silent now that our " genius " scientists at ISRO have bungled & goofed up?

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piri
Re: Why is there no punishment for failure?
by piri on Apr 01, 2018 05:00 PM
You are right in implying that perfection is needed in execution even if technologies are copied or bought !

Reproducing what others have already made also calls for perfection !

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aam admi
Re: Re: Why is there no punishment for failure?
by aam admi on Apr 01, 2018 09:21 PM
china copied Russia, North Korea and Pakistan copied China.Indian Communists are agents of either China or Russia and they advocate for them. And find faults with Indians and appease their bosses.

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R  ponnabalam
Re: Re: Why is there no punishment for failure?
by R ponnabalam on Apr 02, 2018 04:16 PM
There is no exact reproduction anywhere.A Tool working for 30 mts.cannot and does not retain the sharpness that it starts with at the beginning.There is definite gradual dullness coming into play The surface and dimension that tool produces need not be the same in that 30 mt. job even.That is theory. When Pechipari dam had a problem a visiting Foreign Engineer was consulted. The Minister had a sarcastic comment about Engineers.The visiting expert said If I have to construct the hoover dam today I won't do it there where it is now.We all take decisions with available data.The Minister shut his mouth.This we were told in a meeting by our Principal who was a one time C.E of T&C States or Kerala after it became keralaR.Ponnambalam

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Sudarshan Nityananda
Re: Why is there no punishment for failure?
by Sudarshan Nityananda on Apr 01, 2018 05:22 PM
Never lose hope. Sattelites have come back to life after several months of silence also. It needs persistence and not a pessimistic mind set. Also, a punitive mind set reacting to tech failures is a sure road to demotivating the real workers and people will stop putting in any efforts thereafter.

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R  ponnabalam
Re: Why is there no punishment for failure?
by R ponnabalam on Apr 02, 2018 04:04 PM
There is always Poission Distribution at work, leave aside Binomial distribution which is normally taken for human activities.There is no absolute certainty. That apart these are technology of precision not of volatality ,sentiment condiment etc.These people do an excellent job.If you don't want this and wantto have RESERVE INDIA have it.These people can get ordinary job somewhere and they would be happy with that.After all they would not be as rich as thosein Volatality Industry R.Ponnambalam

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Ajitkumar Pandit
Sympthy
by Ajitkumar Pandit on Apr 01, 2018 03:50 PM  | Hide replies

It is not proper to criticize ISRO team. Let the reason be found out. What we should do is to express our sympathy to Team ISRO.
Certainly no politics to be involved in this.

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Sudarshan Nityananda
Re: Sympthy
by Sudarshan Nityananda on Apr 01, 2018 05:20 PM
Never lose hope. Sattelites have come back to life after several months of silence also. It needs persistence and not a pessimistic mind set. Also, a punitive mind set reacting to tech failures is a sure road to demotivating the real workers and people will stop putting in any efforts thereafter.


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Sridhar Saxena
GSAT-6 A communication failure
by Sridhar Saxena on Apr 01, 2018 03:19 PM  | Hide replies

Where are B H A K T S

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krishna Ram
Re: GSAT-6 A communication failure
by krishna Ram on Apr 01, 2018 04:06 PM
If there is failure then do you rejoice?

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ashish tiwari
Re: GSAT-6 A communication failure
by ashish tiwari on Apr 01, 2018 04:14 PM
Who is this pathetic creature? What has bhakts to do with a satellite launch? Anyways Modi bhakti is far better than licking italian sandals for a few biscuits of corruption

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Raghunadh Kumarbhattar
Working Style of India
by Raghunadh Kumarbhattar on Apr 01, 2018 03:04 PM  | Hide replies

It is unfortunate.
It also shows the working style of the Indian People.
We don’t take all the works with equal importance and with equal dignity. Whenever knife is hanging on our head (or big boss is watching), we will work and produce the results. When people left unsupervised and expected to work in free atmosphere, people tend to relax and take the work lightly. They take the mandatory precautions also lightly and show a “chalta hai” attitude. I really wonder how many Scientist/Engineers understand the meaning of tolerance in specifications and importance of delivering the product with “zero tolerance”. I have seen many times the system is cleared for delivery when the parameter are within the tolerance rather with zero tolerance. In this situation there is high probability that the system will fail in the operation. Zero tolerance is achieved when the Big Boss is closely monitoring the progress of work. In this situation, the people get all the support, facilities and cooperation from all the departments, peers and superiors. The same thing was also happened with ISRO in initial days, where the Big Boss put all his concentration on satellites and bring it to a good shape. Afterwards, the concentration of the Big Boss shifted to Launch vehicles with a series of failures and country started called ISRO as a “Nikamma” for development of Cryogenic stage. ISRO (alias ISRO Big Boss) taken it as a challenge, (One reason may be the fai

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krishna Ram
Re: Working Style of India
by krishna Ram on Apr 01, 2018 04:08 PM
We need to encourage our ISRO scientists.


Each space agency had failures.

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