If Indian democracy all these years could not lift indias hunger index below 100, then it is time to look for an alternative system. Democracy is the most beautiful thing like when there is love from both the sides. Western Democracy has some pre condition and it needs well informed, civilized and educated public. Equal opportunities for everyone, nobody is discriminated, all the institutions functions to make a just and equal society and then democracy and secularism plays a balancing act.
Now in India hunger index is 100 out of 119, 4 crore cases pending in court. If there is small family dispute based on property it takes 15 - 20 years to settle the dispute in court? What kind of judiciary is that. The Indian media has completely sold their morals and ethics to corporate or capitalist who have political allies either in ruling or opposition and there is give and take relationship between them. Executives are criminals sitting in the government
If this is the way democracy function, then it is called mobocracy...and secularism will be limited to serving vote banks...
Hard time for BJP due to Notebandi which is past story now, people have forgotten. But GST is spoiled by FM due to legal complications and many compliance with penal clauses. Correction is taken by BJP but not enough due to arrogant FM again. To bring economy on track will take some time, say 2-3 years, then golden era will start. By that time, BJP is to contain its vote bank, which is eroding due to arrogancy.
Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP
by Against Pseudos on Oct 17, 2017 03:08 PM
YadVaa: The RaHool became student now? ROTFLMAO... Next he will win primary school class monitor position. :-)
Re: BJP
by Ramana murthy on Oct 17, 2017 10:19 AM
the alternative to the arrogant bjp is a corrupt and inefficient a foreign family ruled congress. the practical minded gujarati will therefore choose the former. BJP will win.
Re: Re: BJP
by Abhijeet Dube on Oct 17, 2017 01:27 PM
hahaha.............fools\' ........ RAGA is Hindu Brahimin.... Opposition also has hindu members and BJP also has muslim members...... they are making you fool and you are feeling felicitated....
Remove it from Constitution. No need of it. Indian culture by nature is secular last 5000years. The word is distorted, misinterpreted, used politically and communally causing 60% of evil in this country. It gives a handle to cheap type Mani Iyers and Osamajis to create communal divides.
Re: The word 'Secularism' cause of all pulling India back...
by Gladyschellam on Oct 17, 2017 11:44 AM
Communalism must have come after Muslim invasions but varnashra Dharma came in to existence over 5000 years ago. It is now at peak as Shudras are being given favours from the top two society of varna and being politicized.
What the opponents favoured earlier is being criticised and what they were agst is favoured is the policy now. Secularism has become double edged knife. It is being talked among people only but not at the top level from the Power that be.
I am going to quote this from my hero Lee Kuan Yew who said this below about democracy
Democratic procedures have no intrinsic value. What matters is good government. The primary duty is to create a “stable and orderly society” where people are well cared for, their food, housing, employment, health”.
Democracy is only one way of getting the job done, but if non-electoral procedures are more conducive to the attainment of valued ends, then I’m against democracy. Nothing is morally at stake in the choice of procedures.
There are limitations in India’s constitutional system and the political system that prevent it from going at high speed. Whatever the political leadership may want to do, it must go through a very complex system at the centre, and then even a more complex system in the various states….Indians will go at a tempo which is decided by their constitution, by their ethnic mix, by their voting patterns, and the resulting coalition governments, which makes for very difficult decision-making.
Furthermore, populist democracy makes Indian policies less consistent, with regular changes in ruling parties
Nation building: no easy task.
When democracy arrived in Russia after the collapse of communism in 1991, it was pretty much free for all. The country was under the grip of criminal syndicates and sundry opportunists. The economy, remote controlled by the IMF, was in free fall, without the bottom in sight.
Re: Secularilism and democracy
by Sameer Shaikh on Oct 17, 2017 10:02 AM
And yet in the western view, “God was in his heaven and everything was right with the world.” The suffering of the Russian people didn’t matter to them. Rather, the pictures of once proud pensioners now reduced to trading their World War II medals for a loaf of bread were gleefully published by TIME, Newsweek, and The Economist.
he rejected the notion that western democracy and values are universal. I do not believe you can impose on other countries standards which are alien and totally disconnected with their past.” In his view, “to ask China to become a democracy, when in its 5,000 years of recorded history it never counted heads” was completely unreasonable.
he West treats democracy as religion – so sacred that it will rip those countries into the stone age in order to sow the seeds of democracy in those places. That is what George W. Bush claimed the Americans were doing in Iraq. Now, the Americans and their NATO friends claim they are introducing democracy in Libya. Both attempts have been spectacular failures.
In contrast to Lee’s strong sense of nationalism, India’s first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru was completely delusional. Instead of raising living standards, Nehru spent his time and energy on the chimera of world peace. His detractors deride him as the “breaker of modern India”. Unlike Lee, Nehru lapped up what his former colonial masters dished out to him. He imposed western democracy on a p
Re: Re: Secularilism and democracy
by Sameer Shaikh on Oct 17, 2017 10:07 AM
He imposed western democracy on a poor and divided country, causing chaos that slowed economic growth and caused numerous caste and religious conflicts.
Personally I would have preferred an RSS and Narendra Modi to the outdated democracy of India and would have preferred a hundu rashtra than the current western democracy which has created population explosion, 4 crore case pending in judiciary and uncivilized public but unfortunately all RSS has no scientific ideas or solution to the problem of india. All they talk is about adopting cow revolution which will bring prosperity. If RSS had inducted scientific ideas and rationalism and inclusive politics they would have become mainstream than right wing. All they have lowly uneducated folks who talks no rational.
Unfortunately India is sitting up on a dangerous hill. From here it is make away or breakaway time for India.
As on now Modi with his track record and vision is the best choice of the majority; a towering figure. Others in the opposition in the race are perceived as cheap and lacklustourous, visionless, opportunist ,even traitorous dwarfs compared to him. This is by and large the public perception. However, Modiji is expected to bring quantum jump in economy.
