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F-16 or Gripen E: What will Modi choose?


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aam admi
time being F-16 is offer to make in India is not bad idea
by aam admi on Dec 20, 2017 07:22 PM

for a country which is lagging behind in fighter technology, with time Indians will also learn and improve .
Our DRDO is slow in developing technology and so is our Tejas , which still need more improvement and that will go on with the advancement of technology in the world.
Starting at F-16 level is not bad idea or the other option Gripen E available, but should be decided finally.
And work should start as early as possible .
Remember we are already lagging behind China by almost 10 years in such technology and may be more from Europe.
Thanks to Nehru dynesty who believed in importing and earning commission.

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abhishek sharma
India would not trust USA
by abhishek sharma on Dec 20, 2017 04:16 PM

India should not give his shoulder to dying company like lockheed martin

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raja sekar
Tejas
by raja sekar on Dec 20, 2017 03:32 PM

Ajai shukla the author has zero credentials. US has said they would not TOT any critical technologies. That means only screwdrivergiri in India. Typical salesmans $80*200 = $16B in India? This is laughable. Most of the $16B will go to US since they provide readmade kits to be assembled in India. What is being done in name of collabration is just utilizing Indian low cost labour do some basic stuff which most of the ietms come as black box from US.

The Only way India can grow in capabilities is to use the Tejas Light combat aircraft as a spring board and increase the indigeneous content in it. This will not only pave way for Tejas, but also for all Aeronautical progams not just related to defence.

Lastly Indians should first believe in Indian products / Indian scientist rather than looking to western countries. Also remember US is a developed country because its defense industry is indegenous. If India wants to be like US in future then better invest in Made in India rather than assembling some outdated stuff

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Sumeer Sharma
Future demand for F-16
by Sumeer Sharma on Dec 20, 2017 01:38 PM  | Hide replies

The existence or lack of future orders for F-16s if and when produced in India is of secondary importance because oyur own demand of 200 or so aircraft is likely to take at least 10 years to fulfill. If we start exporting them it will take even longer. The primary concern should be whether these aircraft are suitablke for the IAF or the Griopen is better. It must be remembered that the PAF has more than 20 years of experienxce on this aircraft.

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avtar
Re: Future demand for F-16
by avtar on Dec 20, 2017 01:43 PM
india should work on tejas mkII. dont waste time and money on f-16 or gripen

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raja sekar
Re: Future demand for F-16
by raja sekar on Dec 20, 2017 03:35 PM
The author has zero credentials. US has said they would not TOT any critical technologies. That means only screwdrivergiri in India. Typical salesmans $80*200 = $16B in India? This is laughable. Most of the $16B will go to US since they provide readmade kits to be assembled in India. What is being done in name of collabration is just utilizing Indian low cost labour do some basic stuff which most of the ietms come as black box from US.

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dathathri kaparthi
Money (Dollars)
by dathathri kaparthi on Dec 20, 2017 12:35 PM  | Hide replies

Looks like Dollars are being paid to promte F-16 to the arms brokers like A---S----

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raja sekar
Re: Money (Dollars)
by raja sekar on Dec 20, 2017 03:34 PM
Ajai shukla the author has zero credentials. US has said they would not TOT any critical technologies. That means only screwdrivergiri in India. Typical salesmans $80*200 = $16B in India? This is laughable. Most of the $16B will go to US since they provide readmade kits to be assembled in India. What is being done in name of collabration is just utilizing Indian low cost labour do some basic stuff which most of the ietms come as black box from US.

The Only way India can grow in capabilities is to use the Tejas Light combat aircraft as a spring board and increase the indigeneous content in it. This will not only pave way for Tejas, but also for all Aeronautical progams not just related to defence.

Lastly Indians should first believe in Indian products / Indian scientist rather than looking to western countries. Also remember US is a developed country because its defense industry is indegenous. If India wants to be like US in future then better invest in Made in India rather than assembling some outdated stuff

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sanjay sukhadia
No Neutrality.
by sanjay sukhadia on Dec 20, 2017 12:04 PM  | Hide replies

seeing the situation of IAF best choice is Tejas LCA MK1 and MK1 A as IFR probe is already under testing LCA LSP 8 and range of LCA will be extended.
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LCA is indian product with all parameter we can control.
also Kaveri engine is under development.

New jet should be with twin engine kaveri jet
mean while interim we can opt for gripen E

Arup raha him self tested Gripen E and LCA tejas he can be right person to judge the capability of both aircraft.

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Sudarshan Nityananda
Re: No Neutrality.
by Sudarshan Nityananda on Dec 20, 2017 02:02 PM
By the way, Kaveri engine is only half done and it has taken them 30 years to reach this stage . What kind of plan can IAF make with this kind of development expertise ?NOt saying we are bad in everything, but let us separate the good the bad and the hopeless fast.

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Debasis Roy
Re: No Neutrality.
by Debasis Roy on Dec 22, 2017 03:08 AM
Tejas is a child and Grippen a full grown adult, that is the difference. H16 and Grippen should be compared, not Tejas. Its like comparing a kindergarten kid with twoGraduates

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sanjay sukhadia
No Neutrality.
by sanjay sukhadia on Dec 20, 2017 12:04 PM

seeing the situation of IAF best choice is Tejas LCA MK1 and MK1 A as IFR probe is already under testing LCA LSP 8 and range of LCA will be extended.
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LCA is indian product with all parameter we can control.
also Kaveri engine is under development.

New jet should be with twin engine kaveri jet
mean while interim we can opt for gripen E

Arup raha him self tested Gripen E and LCA tejas he can be right person to judge the capability of both aircraft.

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sanjay sukhadia
No Neutrality.
by sanjay sukhadia on Dec 20, 2017 12:04 PM  | Hide replies

seeing the situation of IAF best choice is Tejas LCA MK1 and MK1 A as IFR probe is already under testing LCA LSP 8 and range of LCA will be extended.
--------------------------
LCA is indian product with all parameter we can control.
also Kaveri engine is under development.

New jet should be with twin engine kaveri jet
mean while interim we can opt for gripen E

Arup raha him self tested Gripen E and LCA tejas he can be right person to judge the capability of both aircraft.

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Sumeer Sharma
Re: No Neutrality.
by Sumeer Sharma on Dec 20, 2017 01:34 PM
Kaveri engine has been under development for decades now with no success in sight.

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raja sekar
Re: Re: No Neutrality.
by raja sekar on Dec 20, 2017 03:34 PM
World wide engine development took ages. Nothing wrong with GTRE. It is commendable that GTRE was able to acheive this much with funds that were given to them

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raja sekar
Tejas - Way forward
by raja sekar on Dec 20, 2017 11:35 AM

Ajai shukla the author has zero credentials. US has said they would not TOT any critical technologies. That means only screwdrivergiri in India. Typical salesmans $80*200 = $16B in India? This is laughable. Most of the $16B will go to US since they provide readmade kits to be assembled in India. What is being done in name of collabration is just utilizing Indian low cost labour do some basic stuff which most of the ietms come as black box from US.

The Only way India can grow in capabilities is to use the Tejas Light combat aircraft as a spring board and increase the indigeneous content in it. This will not only pave way for Tejas, but also for all Aeronautical progams not just related to defence.

Lastly Indians should first believe in Indian products / Indian scientist rather than looking to western countries. Also remember US is a developed country because its defense industry is indegenous. If India wants to be like US in future then better invest in Made in India rather than assembling some outdated stuff

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