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Guru RamRahimDsuza
MCuslims
by Guru RamRahimDsuza on Jul 29, 2016 07:26 PM

Who supports them man should not call them Indian

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Guru RamRahimDsuza
Anyone supporting Z@kir
by Guru RamRahimDsuza on Jul 29, 2016 07:25 PM

Should be sent to peace heaven Pakistan or Bangladesh

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NJayakumar
After long
by NJayakumar on Jul 20, 2016 08:26 AM  | Hide replies

A good piece in Rediff after 99% other boring minority appeasements.

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anjaneya
Re: After long
by anjaneya on Jul 21, 2016 07:57 AM
Why did the Govt not act for decades - vote bank politics!!!!!!

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chanakya maurya
An atanki is dangerous.
by chanakya maurya on Jul 19, 2016 07:19 PM

And the motivator is much more and extremely dangerous.

He initiates the process of hate and the aatank associated with it.

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piri
What is religion ?
by piri on Jul 19, 2016 08:58 AM  | Hide replies


Those who toil and live in want all their lives are taught by religion to be submissive and patient while here on earth, and to take comfort in the hope of a heavenly reward.

But those who live by the labour of others are taught by religion to practise charity while on earth, thus offering them a very cheap way of justifying their entire existence as exploiters and selling them at a very cheap price, tickets to well-being in heaven.

Religion is a sort of spiritual booze, in which the slaves of capital drown their human image, their demand for a life more or less worthy of man.

No muxlim or hyndu or chrittin apologist or the apologist of any other religion has ever addressed this most prosaic and most evident among questions about existence with any degree of assurance !

Muxlim fundamentalists, RSS and its offshoots, Chrittin evangelists and missionaries, etc. have always evaded addressing this most central among questions about religion (or culture or belief systems or whatever) simply because they know they will question their own selves if they do.

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Vijay Sahani
Re: What is religion ?
by Vijay Sahani on Jul 19, 2016 08:04 PM
Boring communist stuff.

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piri
Re: Re: What is religion ?
by piri on Jul 19, 2016 09:16 PM
It might be boring for middle classes and upper middle classes - who generally believe that neither their lot nor that of their descendants will ever descend into the kind of deprivation that afflicts more than 75 % of the Indias population - the segment that is truly poor (the planning commissions statistics notwithstanding).

It is boring because the middle and upper middle classes are not even aware in adequate measure how really squalid and miserable life still is for the majority of Indians.

But it can never be boring for those who have to live through such deprivation, right ?

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Vijay Sahani
Re: Re: Re: What is religion ?
by Vijay Sahani on Jul 20, 2016 02:05 PM
You are assuming that people are living in Ivory towers.

It's boring because the rationale of communists and socialists is faulty.

It's boring because the communists, who champion the cause of the downtrodden, have failed miserably all over the world to uplift the downtrodden and their ideology has failed to achieve what it promises.

It's boring because when given power communists have been as much prone to abuse power as anyone else.

It's boring because communism and socialism is about "sharing the pie" and not about "growing the pie".

Your ideology has failed all over the world but still die hard communists keep on harping on it and hence it is boring.

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piri
Re: Re: Re: Re: What is religion ?
by piri on Jul 21, 2016 07:07 AM
Oh, I was not talking about you at all when I said talk about deprivation in India can never be boring to the deprived !

And why talk about communism ?

Did I mention communism ?

Deprivation pre-dates the communist movement, right ?

And deprivation in India has always been in existence right through its history, right ?

And, most importantly, poverty has not declined one bit in the last 25 years of economic reforms, right (spreading the myth of a trickle down effect has been one of the biggest con jobs by economists) ?

The Planning commission takes the threshold level of poverty as an income of Rs. 28/- per day in rural areas and Rs. 32/- per day in urban areas, right ?

Can anything be more ridiculous than this ?

And with such a ridiculous level, the Commission states that 26 % of all Indians are below the poverty line !

Now, how much does Rs. 28/- per day translate as family income for a family of four ?

Rs. 3360/- per month !!

There is no provision (absolutely none) in the Planning commission formula for healthcare, housing, clothing, education, transport, etc. !

It just takes the money needed to buy PDS grain and lentils and has decided that all that the underclasses need are grain and lentils and nothing else !

In truth, as per the World Bank PPP model of deciding who is poor and who is not, nearly 80 % of the Indian population are poor today.

In other words, the much hyped Indian middle class makes up just 20 to 25 % of the Indian population.

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piri
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is religion ?
by piri on Jul 21, 2016 07:17 AM

And a very big chunk of this 20 to 25 % is made up of the lower middle classes - people who can barely meet their basic needs such as nutrition, healthcare, education, housing, etc. and who will most certainly slide back into poverty should the breadwinner lose his/her job or life !

And the outlook for the poor and the lower middle classes has now become more grim with the current union government deciding to further slash the already anaemic provisions for public healthcare and public education, right ?

With the increasing stranglehold over these two sectors by private investors, can poverty levels ever decline ?

As per a WHO study released in 2012, the poor in the developing world increasingly have to utilize whatever little they save for healthcare expenses owing to underinvestment by governments in public healthcare !

Havent you come across the increasingly numerous stories of people having to sell their valuables - sometimes even their huts - to afford hospitalization and treatment ?

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KARAN
Re: Re: Re: Re: What is religion ?
by KARAN on Jul 23, 2016 06:45 PM
Yea.It is true.Communism has failed to deliver when they can.Another shocking side of commies appear to be,when the loud rattler Atul Kumar Anjan(I hope I am right in ning him)in a debate with Dr.Swamy as one of them,was directly indicted by Dr.Swamy that investigation into how much money was stashed away by indian communist took the wind out of the Sail of this Atul Kumar Anjan,than it was shocking if there could be substance to that conversation.

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R Chakravarti
Re: What is religion ?
by R Chakravarti on Jul 21, 2016 09:02 AM
You seem to have got your idea of religion only from Marxist literature. That is your sole source. It is not my idea.

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piri
Re: Re: What is religion ?
by piri on Jul 22, 2016 12:22 AM
As I said earlier, I was not talking about the middle classes. Each segment is often dominated by distinct sets of self serving convictions.

For the middle classes, it is easy to slip into the belief that the poor exist due to their bad karma...blah....blah..and that poverty has not struck them because of their *good* deeds in their earlier births ! Of course, I referred to only one set of self serving conviction here. There are numerous others too.

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