Re: Very good article...
by Connan on Jan 29, 2015 03:37 AM
BS the relationship started during Narsimha raos time, was carried forward by Bajpayee, and then MMMS and now modi, he has not done any thing special, even Obama mentioned it, by saying MMS did the leg work.
Re: Re: Very good article...
by sam raj on Jan 29, 2015 06:59 AM
NaMo is the one finally puts the Goal...The person at the finishing end of the relay and succeeded will always sees the limelight
Re: Re: Very good article...
by amuldongibaby on Jan 29, 2015 09:39 AM
What SHOOOOONIA is toasting for? return ticket to ITALY? or celebrating BARtoDURBAR life?
Re: Very good article...
by Connan on Jan 29, 2015 03:37 AM
BS the relationship started during Narsimha raos time, was carried forward by Bajpayee, and then MMMS and now modi, he has not done any thing special, even Obama mentioned it, by saying MMS did the leg work.
We are learning to evolve somewhat to the level of our colonial masters. This catch-up will keep going on forever as there is huge knowledge and technological imbalance. Not only there is huge imbalance, we are also not aware of the fact that all the knowledge we have from our own past is mostly irrelevant and defunct and causing more harm to us than any good. Of course, we are all trying to do the same thing. Come as close as possible to Western science, technology, culture and civilisation. Whoever is getting more closer wins. Let's keep pushing to catch-up ...
Re: Less Talk and Work on the Catch-Up
by sam raj on Jan 29, 2015 07:01 AM
Perfectly right, some people are fond of digging the past stories than thinking about present and future
Re: Re: Less Talk and Work on the Catch-Up
by giveanid on Jan 29, 2015 09:55 AM
If you want people to move on, admit the past mistakes first. Thats the first step. Don't tell people what to remember and what to forget based on where you sit.
Re: Re: Less Talk and Work on the Catch-Up
by giveanid on Jan 29, 2015 09:55 AM
If you want people to move on, admit the past mistakes first. Thats the first step. Don't tell people what to remember and what to forget based on where you sit.
When Modiji went to USA, manylifesaving drugs were decontrolled, enabling major drug companies to jackup prises. Obama came here with purely business minded to boost business of nuclear plant manufactures and to clear path of FDI in retail and insurance.
Re: Modi regime
by Aprameya on Jan 28, 2015 11:09 PM
FDI in retail is closed chapter. Obama came here for boosting his image in foreign policy as he has failed in Middle east with respect to Syria,ISIS,Iraq Second reason it seems is China balancing
1. Obama's farewell speech that left Modi and the BJP actually embarassed, discomfited and scrambling to play down in comic fashion
and more importantly,
2. The Americans' complete victory in making the Modi govt. accept Clauses 6, 17 and 18 of the nuclear agreement (first incorporated by the UPA govt. but kept suspended owing to public outcry). These clauses limit the liability of the American reactor suppliers to a meagre Rs. 1500 crores even in the case of the worst accident possible and the operator - the NPCIL - completely bound to provide compensation to all the affected.
In effect, Modi just did what the UPA was trying to do but desisted from doing under public pressure !
In a densely populated country such India, the long term effects of a nuclear accident can have a gigantic cascading effect - on the people and the environment. The NPCIL, and the government by extension, is left holding the responsibility of providing relief and compensation whatever by the cause or extent of an accident !
Re: What the author quietly
by Syz on Jan 28, 2015 10:51 PM
Obama's promise of U.S. investment will not happen until BJP fixes the communal issue, because most of the arms manufacturers and industries over there are controlled by Christian and Jewish lobby. Obama's speech is a very strong but indirect way of reminding Modi the reality. Because of diplomatic protocol he could not have said more that this. BJP is pretending that this is not an issue at all. But think again, a foreign dignitary is visiting India and giving a lecture about violation of Indian constitution standing on Indian soil. This is not a simple matter of fact, this is serious. Hope BJP corrects itself.
Re: Re: What the author quietly
by Prakash Bedekar on Jan 28, 2015 11:00 PM
Obama promised many things during last visit, what is the actual score card?Modiji returned from USA trumpeting investments of billions, what happened?
Re: Re: Re: What the author quietly
by Syz on Jan 28, 2015 11:02 PM
Modi might be serious but his inaction against other illegal activities are causing problem.
Re: Re: What the author quietly
by sam raj on Jan 29, 2015 07:09 AM
Few over enthusiastic fanatic characters have created such a perception in the minds of outsiders. So far, NaMo has not not spoken/commented about it openly which adds doubts. Similar comments (like the one from Obama) came from TN DMK leader MK as well sometime back but Media has not taken that seriously
Re: Re: What the author quietly
by jayram joshi on Jan 29, 2015 12:15 AM
You do realize Obama's statements actually support Uniform Civil Code? No? I thought so. People spoon fed by hyperventilating modi hating media will never get such subtleties
Re: What the author quietly
by Aprameya on Jan 28, 2015 10:58 PM
there where two clauses which got struck 1.Liability issue in which it has been global practice with operator is liable for accidents and had to pay the compensation 2.Tracing the fuel supplied for which Modi govt did not agreed.This is important as spent fuel can be used for weapon production.
So it was give and take first clause was diluted with Insurance from third party and Americans agreed to drop second clause.
Re: Re: What the author quietly
by giveanid on Jan 29, 2015 06:25 AM
If someone told you this, don't believe them. The problem was never the inspection, it was always the liability clause. You can look up the old articles written by arun jaitley, sinha etc. Also read the old news on the debate in parliament.
Re: Re: Re: What the author quietly
by amuldongibaby on Jan 29, 2015 09:40 AM
What SHOOOOONIA is toasting for? return ticket to ITALY? or celebrating BARtoDURBAR life?
Re: Re: What the author quietly
by piri on Jan 29, 2015 12:21 AM
The global practice is that liability rests with the operator in cases of the accidents caused by operational errors.
But the suppliers of equipment do bear a part of the liability - that is large enough to suitably cover the biggest possible risks - that arises because of faulty equipment.
In a large and densely populated country such as India, the loss of life and property and loss due to environmental damage due to a big nuclear accident can be very big in size. The effects could last very long and the compounded damage can be incalculable.
Rs. 1500 crores as liability on the suppliers is just out of all proportion.
And the US did no favour by dropping its insistence on tracking the nuclear material obligated to it. The US had good reason to do so. It first raised this deman in 2012. The UPA govt. refused to oblige; but offered to let the IAEA - which was authorised by India to conduct inspections of nuclear plants - share its observations with the US. The US had been considering this proposal ever since and had never rejected it.
It is this offer of the UPA (made in 2013) that the Modi govt. put forward again and which the US accepted.
Therfore, the Modi govt. cannot claim credit for this, can it ?
Re: Re: Re: What the author quietly
by rsvpcon on Jan 29, 2015 11:01 AM
In fact Modi government is most FALTU (useless) Government and UPA was the best. That is why wisdom of Indian voters threw out such a clean(?), efficient(?) government out of office. Please read what is on wall.
Everything is good about him except his communal mentality. If he was not communal he would have been the best PM of the country. I don't give him any credential because of his communal mentality. He should not have been selected as the PM candidate for this great secular country. It is an insult to the constitution.
Re: Modi
by on Jan 28, 2015 10:51 PM
Both courts and people have given their verdict. Don't keep on barking like a record in loop which has become irrelevant. The more people like you repeat the more they hate you guys not Modi.
Re: Re: Modi
by Syz on Jan 28, 2015 10:59 PM
Why Obama had to lecture about Article 25 of constitution standing on Indian soil? Why are you not protesting for insulting Indian consitution if he said was incorrect? Even after so much of friendship he had to bring that issue? Seriously? A head of state of another country criticizing violation of Indian constitution standing on Indian soil is not a simple matter to be ignored.
Re: Re: Re: Modi
by Against Pseudos on Jan 29, 2015 04:13 AM
Obama had to lecture because Kaangress never passed anti-conversion law and never repealed article 370. Comprendo?
Re: Modi
by piri on Jan 28, 2015 10:51 PM
Being communal was/is just a means for him to reach and remain in power.
His true malignancy is the nature of neo-liberal economic reforms - with no provision for the actual state of the Indian nation, its people and its environment - that he and his team have been trying single mindedly to impose on the country.
No large country in the developing world has so far - ever since the end of the second world war - actually achieved the kind of all round development that is widely promised with neo-liberal reforms and market oriented policies without accompanying safeguards for the vulnerable segments of the population.
Not a single country !
Like every other large and poverty ridden country that tried such reforms before - Argentina, Mexico, Brazil, South Africa - and failed, India too is trying the same prescription without willing to learn any lessons !
Re: Re: Modi
by Syz on Jan 28, 2015 10:57 PM
Developmental agenda is good if that is inclusive of all people of the country, instead of a section of the people. He only fills the pockets of his pet businessmen.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Modi
by Syz on Jan 29, 2015 12:41 AM
That is failed policy like Republicans in U.S.A. They always proposed less tax for the wealthiest saying that would generate more employment and trickling effect. But that never happened and it was because of that Obama came to power in 2008.
Re: Modi
by shridhar hebbar on Jan 29, 2015 03:56 AM
Who cares your credentials any way...You and your ilk is anyway 'seculars' when convenient. We like Modi's mentality and keep electing him..
Re: Re: Modi
by Prakash Sharma on Jan 29, 2015 09:45 AM
muzzies talkin of secularism is the biggest joke known to mankind !! if u ppl r so secular , plz highlight one muslim country which provided equal rights to other religion ppl ..just like u ppl enjoy in india !!
In order to fight against the appointment of Lokyouth in Gujarat (which had not been done for more than 10 years of his rule in Gujarat) he spent some cores of rupees in employing the countries top most layers. was it interest of the state or personal?. For Modi And Khakhi Jaddis bhakthas these will not be seen!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Personal or State interest?
by NEELAKANTAN R on Jan 28, 2015 09:35 PM
Just appoint a Lokayouth the correption will not vanish. There is lokayoukth in Karnataka, but Karnataka is still the second most corrupt state. Just Passing a law nothing will happen. Only kejriwal can use this to fool public. Existing laws is sufficient to deal will corruption. But tell me how many people (Political) are punished in Karnataka where lokayoukt is in existence for past 6 years. let us not fool ourself
Re: Personal or State interest?
by coolguyhero on Jan 28, 2015 10:34 PM
ok employee countries top most layers.i agree with that but i don't see anything wrong in that unless if thousands of jobs are not created.here many people are geeting job which is the most important thing.he succed to bring these giants because of that many famillys are earning bread & butter otherwise no job for these people.i don't see nothing wrong when i pay 50 rs instead of 10 rs to a job creater because that person is feeding 100 people.
