When genocide was going on in SriLanka, Indian government dropped food and medicine packets in a foreign territory (SriLanka) and that subequently led to pact with Jayawardane. It is a different matter that the deal was scuttled by LTTE as well as subsequent SriLankan governments. China wouldn't have got a foothold on Sri Lanka if the pact had led to frution and Tamils sufferening would have reduced to a great deal.
Re: Food packet drop and IPKF in SriLanka
by Mast Qalandar on Jan 11, 2015 06:20 PM
The action to support Fiji indians was because most of the Fiji Indians were of Hindi origin. Compare the treatment meted out to Tamils in Sri Lanka. Left to suffer the brutality of the Sri Lankans
Re: Re: Food packet drop and IPKF in SriLanka
by sajiv singla on Jan 12, 2015 01:39 PM
these are the divisive tendencies based on caste /creed/ etc that go against national intrests of any country creatin such violent scenerios...any country same wl happwen...love the country u live in with due consideration respect for majority community on equal basis
All Indian governments have only stood by and supported the largely Hindian north Indian diaspora Eg. Fiji. West Indies Canada but never supported Indian diaspora from the southern states. In fact connived with the governments of these countries to discriminate this southern diaspora Eg Sri Lanka Malaysia Burma. In Sri Lankan they not only connived and cooperated with the Sinhalese to discriminate and then forcibly repatriate Indian origin Tamils from the Central highlands of the country but aided and abetted the Sinhalese to commit genocide and large scale ethnic cleansing on the indigenous Eelam Tamils from the north and east of the island
Re: Sorry only stands by North Indian Origin
by on Jan 09, 2015 10:01 PM
You are in a wrong perspective, that is why you are disgruntled isolated and frustrated yourself. On the contrary to your own perception, South Indians are very active in participating in main stream of general development of our Nation, they are the main building blocks in constructing vibrant INDIA.
The notion that the diaspora in NAmerica does not contribute significantly in foreign exchange is old and not correct now. I believe the figures of remittances to India for 2012 onwards show that contributions from USA are the highest of all remittances. This is on account of the software professionals in the US, particularly those on L and H1b visas who tend to invest heavily into real estate in India.
However the contribution of N American diaspora can hardly be overstated. In many ways, you could say this represents the bulk of the Indian educated middle class.
As the article points out, it just shows how diverse the diaspora is, as is India itself. What the article misses out is how relations have changed during the MMS time, where the political relations may have been weaker.
Re: Correction to the article
by Varadarajan Ravindran on Jan 09, 2015 07:37 AM
You are exactly right on the dot in your evaluation. The foreign citizens of Indian origin do not contribute much to India. They function exactly like Sonia and Rahul Gandhi.
Many expatriates in foreign countries remit funds to invest in properties,shares etc without knowing its tax implications thus getting trapped in some cases.Some of them may hv some local income such as rent,agriculture,small business etc.but do not hv necessary expertise to file returns etc from foreign countries.When they visit India for a short period once in a year or two years do not find time to comply with these requirements.For such people Indian embassies could provide assistance to comply with these requirements by having a tax expert in its offices.Alternatively a very simple procedure may put in place so that NRI's can easily pay taxes from abroad thus increasing Govt.revenue.For example a person can put together all his income under one head & pay a tax of say 20% on gross income without any complicated additions & deductions.The tax return should be of one page with bare minimum details such as name,PAN no.local & foreign address,proof of electronic remittance of tax.
Simple, gulf country workers have most of their families in India and they look at gulf as only a short term jobs opportunity. And their families guard their investments in India.
NRI's from western countries are living a long term life in those countries and dont need to bring back money to India. Mostly their families are also there and they might only have distant family members in India.
So, what Indian govt needs to do is to provide an incentive to these NRI's to bring their hard earned money to India and invest in property, shares etc.
But to do that we need to make sure that there are laws protecting those NRI's and their investments and they have the peace of mind that they have in western countries. Nobody here should be able to illegally occupy NRI's properties or their shares or any other investments.
Then we will see large amounts of NRI funds coming to India!
Re: Why Indians from western countries dont send a lot of money?
by g kapuria on Jan 07, 2015 10:03 PM
My friend.. Till now, we have not done anything deserve NRI investments. Yet, NRIs invest in India out of kindness. Things will change dramatically if we make India a profitable place for investors. If NRIs choose to stay out even after that, we will have some reason to complain.
Simple, gulf country workers have most of their families in India and they look at gulf as only a short term jobs opportunity. And their families guard their investments in India.
NRI's from western countries are living a long term life in those countries and dont need to bring back money to India. Mostly their families are also there and they might only have distant family members in India.
So, what Indian govt needs to do is to provide an incentive to these NRI's to bring their hard earned money to India and invest in property, shares etc.
But to do that we need to make sure that there are laws protecting those NRI's and their investments and they have the peace of mind that they have in western countries. Nobody here should be able to illegally occupy NRI's properties or their shares or any other investments.
Then we will see large amounts of NRI funds coming to India!
Re: Why Indians from western countries dont send a lot of money?
by hanze vast on Jan 09, 2015 06:07 AM
I as an NRI invested in property. Flats In NCR on Dwarka Expressway with a reputed RAHEJA DEVELOPERS. I Invested ABOUT 2008. EVEN 2015- Flats are not ready. LOOK LIKE SLUMS- NO basic facilities. YOU INDIANS ARE CHEATS
very informative and useful article defining the fact that some incidents have the power to change everything. However, i fully agree with thomas mathew, i think time has come that the term 'Indian diaspora' should be understood well and classified well. One one side there are Indian origin people who have settled in developed countries and are nationals there AND at the other end there are people who are working in middle east and are still Indians by nationality and will always be as they dont get permanent residency status in these countries. There is no comparison of the sense of belonging to their home country between these groups. Interestingly, as mentioned, the major contribution to the incoming foreign exchange is also from these middle east workers. Unfortunately, little has been done for them by any government from our country. Maybe just because majority of these workers are the least educated and least aware. Its high time our government shows its valued interest in improving their conditions and not go for site seeing to meet the lesser people of indian origins in the developed world. But, as they say, The best services in this world are available for people who need them the least.
Srinivasan sir, we salute you for the many wonderful jobs you have done for the Indian expats including that in Fiji. But like all others , you too have conveniently forgotten in your article the largest chunk of the Indian expats and the major contributors to the Indian economy, the toiling mass of Indians in the Middle East. For money , everyone needs Indians in the Middle East but when it matters , where mention is made, they never find a place and only those Indian prigin persons in UK and USA and Europe, The Americas and Australia find mention. Our subservience to the Goras have still not gone fully . PM Narendra modi if he is serious , should have by now visited or atleast made a program for the Middle East.But who wants them till money is required ?? Shame on our government and the diplomatic core .
Re: Request to Mr Srinivasan
by thomas mathew on Jan 07, 2015 10:03 AM
Among all diplomatic missions , the Indian Missions in the Midle east are the most callous towards their own citizens . Indian expats ( a common man) gets the worst treatment from these missions where as it should be looked on with envy, the work done bu Philippines and even Pakistani missions for their citizens .This is a FACT
Re: Re: Request to Mr Srinivasan
by Bomb Bhole on Jan 07, 2015 10:30 AM
Thomas.. you are right on the treatment meted traditionally to the Indians working in Gulf by our embassies. But there is a basic difference between the Indians working in Gulf and Indians working in developed nations.
Indians in gulf know that there money can only grow in India. They can never get citizenship in the countries they serve, unlike their brothers in the developed nations.
Whereas, Indian diaspora in the US or EU has never been involved to actively contribute in India's economic progress. Instead they have been treated with stpid amazement. The situation is changing now.
Re: Request to Mr Srinivasan
by hanze vast on Jan 09, 2015 06:10 AM
I as an NRI invested in property. Flats In NCR on Dwarka Expressway with a reputed RAHEJA DEVELOPERS. I Invested ABOUT 2008. EVEN 2015- Flats are not ready. LOOK LIKE SLUMS- NO basic facilities. YOU INDIANS ARE CHEATS
