What ever Meera Sanyal say, it is clear that:- 1. Delhi voter's divided into two group. (a) Lower Class in one side (b) Middle and upper class in the other side. It is a class war, not an election. 2. Congress transferred its vote's to AAP to defeat Mr.Modi.
Re: Delhi Election Message.
by piri on Feb 11, 2015 07:16 PM
And it should also be clear to anyone with enough common sense that the middle classes, if they identify with the upper rich classes more than with the lower classes, must be stuxpid beyond redemption!
Re: Delhi Election Message.
by rashmi kulkarni on Feb 11, 2015 09:45 PM
Absolutely agree. anti-BJP pockets would go any length to defeat BJP - even elect AAP. Thats what has happened. All Congress votes went to AAP Booty that is all.
Politics of cities & villages are different.And when we talk of Delhi,its ground reality is quite different from villages & semi urban areas.The issues & facts of rural areas are quite different from cities. It is a sad fact that all the successive govts are putting efforts for flourishing the cities at the cost of villages.It is because the elite class,top class bureaucrats,top businessmen,top class journalists live in cities.there is mass exodus of people from villages to cities.Govt should make policies & programmes for providing infrastructure,industries so as to provide maximum employment to rural people.Roads,sanitation,amenities,entertainment facilities,medical facilities should be maximum in rural areas.As on date no affluent person likes to be in village.In news channels,hardly there is any news of villages although 70 % of our population lives in village.Govt officials posted to rural areas think this to be punishment & remain absent.The plight of villages is really pathetic.What is important is smart villages much more than smart cities.Our cities,though needs development,have the basic amenities,but our villages are languishing.
Let us analyze the out come scenario.The intelligence reports have possibly forecast ed aap's victory .Shri Amith Shaw was having two options.One is to nominate some one from BJP or nominate smt Bedijee.The pros and cons are if BJP member is nominated his history do speak a defeat to BJP but no.of candidates winning may slightly more.Smt Bedijee nomination may break the consolidated AAP votes in to two by which AAP winning can be checked.This Shri Amith Shaw's logic totally failed as AAP has already consolidated the minority and poor voters support.Secondly the workers in BJP also felt disappointed and did not show any effort for BJP's winning.Contrary at field level many BJP locals possibly canvased for AAP candidates, betraying their own party candidate.This fact can be clearly understood by the BJP MP from ChandaniChowk talks in TV.This requires the candidate from party at local level. Thus election is played like business.Candidates never hesitate to betray the party they belong.smt KIran Bedijee was not Delhi based and not a BJP senior member also.Knowing this it cannot be ruled out that shri Amith Shaw and shri Modijee were prepared to accept the anticipated defeat by eliminating congress, as AAP also has same goal to eradicate corruption like shri Modijee this combination may work well. Shri Modijee also need to chose words well while delivering the speeches.BJP leaders also need to take confidence of the local leaders without any ego and complexity.
BJP is at stage where in every election in next 2 years will be BJP vs ALL... so if no vote division happens then BJP will definitely loose.
Congress is not capable of dividing votes.. So they are pushing AAP to fight election in other states also to divide votes. AAP being anti corruption party will not go with any other existing regional parties.
BJP wants to fight tripolar elections not bipolar.
The reality is voters are the judge in a democracy and it has been reiterated. While AAP could manage to take away Congress Voters, the BJP still maintained its vote shares. AAP won this election because of ineptive Congress lead by Mr.Rahul Gandhi. Then the question arises why this Congress voters did not support Mr.Modi and BJP. The answer is simple, the people realized there is a big gap in Mr.Modi's promises made and performance. BJP also became over confident and arrogant. In addition the utterances and actions of the Sangh Parivar was not appreciated by the voters. So BJP could not increase its vote shares. The important thing in the election inspite of whatever happened, BJP maintained their traditional votes and AAP could not make much dent in it. So Congress failure is AAP gain and this is is the simple arithematic. The day Congress will have an able leader who could get their vote share back, and that day we will be back into status quo, and may be possible BJP may improve their tally. So also Congress. Therefore attributing this victory of AAP as an indication of National sentiments will not hold much water. Every states behave in different fashion and its own unique ways. Let us therefore read much on this AAP victory
Re: Delhi votes
by Kousik Keshav on Feb 11, 2015 06:40 PM
The facts narrated above are quite agreeable. Added to this the promises made in the election manifesto by AAP also has played the desperated poor and middle class voters to shift to ward AAP.The so called minority (who are not) votes have no other option than to vote AAP as they are the trusted voters of Congress.Now it AAP fails to fulfill the promises then it may lead to anarchy as claimed by shri Kejriwall as middle and poor class cant further trust any political party including AAP. 65% of voters belong to middle and poor class.The other parameters do not play as the conversion from tribal to Christian and Islam is very popular and no govt able to reverse it as none are trying to help the poor and down trodden.If an Ghar Vapasi is there why to telecast it it is a jimmick as the conversion from one religion to another is never done under TV cover.If one analyses it is poor class who have interested for economical status and living standards. If the govt provides this why they try for conversion.?It is govt utter failure to provide help for the economically backward population.So there are conversions. why reconversion without economical growth? All political jiglary.
Re: Delhi votes
by Janas on Feb 11, 2015 07:06 PM
U r right in that the BJP especially Modi became arrogant as was evident in the manner he spoke and acted. If he changes for better, people will support him else no.
common man has been fooled by politician every time ,whether it is modi or kejriwal. no one addressing India the basic problem is ever increasing population , every year India add population equal to population of Australia, India have highest number poverty ,unemployment and highly polluted country. there is scarcity of water and food for poor , so how can India develop without adopting proper population policy?
Friends, It is better that delhi given a full majority to AAP. Now it is AAP duty to fulfill all promises made to delhi voters. If they really fulfill they will open their space for themselves in other part of india. So we have to give time to AK. Let's hope better for Delhi. What silent maturity is showing by AAP is good if they keep forever instead of hurting or insulting other. Now the ball is in their court. After getting this big majority it is very difficult to keep silence forever. Congrulation to AK and AAP. Let's hope better.
Let us analyze the out come scenario.The intelligence reports have possibly forecasted aap's victory .Shri Amith Shaw was having two options.One is to nominate some one from BJP or nominate smt Bedijee.The pros and cons are if BJP member is nominated his history do speak a defeat to BJP but no.of candidates winning may slighly more.If smt Bedijee nomination may break the consolidated AAp votes in to two by which aap winning can be checked.This logic totally failed as aap has already en cashed the minority and poor voters support. So Shri Amit Shaw logic totally failed.Secondly the workers in BJP also felt disappointed and did not show any positive effort for BJp.Contrary at field level many BJP locals helped aap candidates betraying their own party candidate.This fact can be clearly understood by the BJP MP form old Delhi.This automatically indicates one has to support any candidate from party at local level.The election is played like business.Candidates never hesitate to cheat and betray the party they belong.smt KIran Nodijee was not Delhi based and not a BJP senior member.So BJP local party leaders also helped to defeat BJP in DElhi.Knowing this it cannot be ruled out that shri Amith Shaw and shri Modijee were prepared to accept the anticipated defeat by eliminating congress.As aap also has some goal to eradicate corruption like shir Modijee this combination work well in day to come.But no aap members insult the BJP in centre like Mamatha who is ,Nitish Kumar and congres
Re: The message of the Delhi elections
by on Feb 11, 2015 06:05 PM
In AP state Ex CM YSR gave many many things like Health,Education,Rice etc. free including electricity to Farmers. Then Finance Minister was Mr.Rosaiah who is now Gov of Tamilnadu. RoSaih ji was CM after YSR. But he couldn't maintain free schemes. Then how as FM ensured funds to Ex CM YSR? There lies truth.Fact is in Indian context at least 45% population needs Govt support and aid. But how to budget for this, excoote it with good governance, with ouut any carruption&ensuring reach to all eligible&needy persons meaning zeero excloosion,incloosion errors. If caruption from gov machinery at all lower level&in day to day transacting offices that is among petty officials is ruted ouut at least a 10000 crore blak money can be stopped every month. Then quality of every common person improves&all common persons will be assets to nation&in turn all common persons develop a great feeling for nation. BUt Research question is is this hypothesis true? If true why Modi Ji has not began this porocess so far. It is nat too late. Let Modi Ji initiate process forth with&it will do miracles. My Gov site remains a mere PR site. No suggestion is looked at for any consideration. Sent these and may suggestions but perhaps no one except server machine kept it in its cold/storage unit. This is nat too late. Let Modi Ji see advices&suggestions put in mygov PM interactive site. This mantra will bring back all glory in a month. Do small things right- only then big things cou
Re: Re: The message of the Delhi elections
by pankaj ruparel on Feb 11, 2015 06:29 PM
Truly said that some people need help of goverment. But actually the help given by goverment is use by the people which actually not require. Modi's intention to give benefit to only those who actually require. Modi had started reforms in so many sector. Result should require time. The media is never showing positive about what he do. Wait and watch. Give sufficient time. The time will tell the difference.
Re: Re: The message of the Delhi elections
by on Feb 11, 2015 07:32 PM
BJP did not loose but Modi Ji has lost. No analysis can explain the loss of Modi Ji. There is sometrhing that is beyond any expert of even international standard. One explanation though could be each and every congress voter voted AAP and no BSP or SP candidate in contest. So BJP got its votes but that was not at all sufficient in an absolute BJP - AAP contest.
The way people voted for BJP in LS Elections & recently in Delhi shows that their attitude has really changed. People are handing over responsibilities to one party (By giving a full majority) & thus forcing every party to perform & show their capabilities. Now it depends upon the Leading members of their party, How they deal with this new phase & show their political will for a modern & developing India.
It is neither a loss for Modi nor a win for new party AAP(Which could become the face of New India if similar approach is maintained). In reality, its a great chance for both of them to prove themselves & fulfill the promises made by them. Thanks to all for your support to New India.
