If India can claim that Pakistan is using militancy as instrument since 3 decades, Indians are right and logical and even Pakistan accepts it.
But as Indians we need to accept this fact that kashmir under special circumstances became a part of India. It is disputed territory and cannot be called permanent part of India. This is a fact according to UN resolution and in accordance with international law.
Before plebiscite there is condition that POK needs to be given to UN, India and Pakistan needs to create favorable atmosphere and India to reduce their troops in Kashmir and create that suitable atmosphere for plebiscite to happen.
Now listen Pakistan. Kashmir has sizable population of Shia which is 30% of their community which comes to around 1-1.5 million shia community. Jammu and Kashmir also has sizable population of minority and ahmedis.
In all international court in all countries people from shia community can claim refugee status and in fact they are granted immediately because they know there are many active militant groups in Pakistan that supports these anti minority groups in Pakistan which are not safe. One is Lashkar Jhangvi. Pakistan cannot protect minority and shia and even majority in kashmir.
Last in UN since Jammu and Kashmir and Leh became part of India and not only Kashmir as Pakistan claims only kashmir, so if referendum happens it has to be people of both Jammu and Kashmir remember.
UN resolution also states that Pakistan must create favourable at
Re: Two right and wrong
by Rehman Shaikh on Oct 12, 2014 02:27 PM
sorry Pakistan has Taliban and other groups that target its shia and ahmedis. Pakistan passed a resolution that ahmedis are non citizen or second class citizen with no rights. who are you fooling Pakistan? How will you protect ahmedis even your foolish leader whom i had lot of respect earlier Imnran khan most unpractical leader in hisotry of pakistan said ahmedis are not our brothers. How will you protect them. Just because some said in Pakistan kashmir needs to be freed from india, you believe.
India too is right when said Pakistan must first deal with militancy and sponsoring militancy via various outfits and Is Hafeez Saeed the actual spokesperson for Pakistan foreign ministry where every day he threatens indian.
During my education abroad some pakistanis said to me, 26/11 was done by pak ex army and ISI and they made HAfeez Saeed scapegoat and said to him that we will protect you unless you keep murmuring against India and kashmir. 26/11 was against samjhauta express not sure but it looks to me 26/11 was handwork of ISI and they made hafeez saeed scapegoat to hide their identity.
If you do these sort of things, remember no international community will support you. You are responsible for your internal crisis and nobody else. If you had lived decent life and thought of progressing, kashmir would have gained autonomy by now. Only Pakistan itself is responsible for its internal crisis not also america.
Re: Two right and wrong
by shrihari on Oct 12, 2014 02:59 PM
UN resolution Gaya_Bhad me its more religious issue than a land dispute If Kashmir goes away the very existence of union of India is in danger.So Indians especially Hindos know this and would never allow it to separate even if there is a atomic war
Re: Two right and wrong
by antoniomaino on Oct 12, 2014 06:32 PM
to eradicate poverty we have to first ERADIATE the ungrateful PAKIlovingSLEEPER cells and the record number of BIRTH in some communities who they think one day take over the world with NUMBERs.
Re: Two right and wrong
by on Oct 12, 2014 06:38 PM
Rehman Shaikh- From your two postings in this forum I think in heart and soul you are a Pakistani. I do not know if your forefathers were Hindus.
Re: Pakistan
by astro on Oct 12, 2014 01:55 PM
Previous govt appeased pak for their vote bank politics for last ten year in the name of peace but our soldiers and civilian in J
I think only solution is to sit gather discuss the matter instead of today Border fight , tomorrow it will turn in to a full fledged WAR which is not good for both countries. Both will lose lives and enormous damage to their Economies. People behind us ( our enemies)will laugh at our foolishness.
Re: DISCUSSION NOT WAR
by astro on Oct 12, 2014 01:47 PM
Under blackmail of terrorism india should never talk and hit back strongly pak is not in a position to bear cost of war,all secularist and pak supporter must shut up and let army and BSF do their job previous govt followed the policy suggested by you what we got Mumbai 26/11 and killing of our innocent villagers at border we are paying the price since last 25 years let us do it one time.
Re: DISCUSSION NOT WAR
by Dinesh S on Oct 12, 2014 02:19 PM
so go on getting bomb shells are you paki or a congress man to talk this rubbish Let us not make any silly suggstion Let the govt give free hand to our javans they will handle better .If you are not interested in fighting go and keep your self silent in sabarmati
To tum 100 macro.Pakistan economy can not afford a war.we should not bend against blackmail of Pakistan and do not talk until Pak refrain from terrorism and firing.All pak supporter in india must shut up and let BSF and army do their job this time.opposition must keep quiet if they choose not to be with govt due to their vote bank politics at least show some patriotism
Re: And
by surya das on Oct 12, 2014 06:05 PM
India's percentage bit lower, because allPIGs participated incl you to bring it low...you guys only know onething how to produce garbage like you 4 to 5 in each family..
Re: Please, please stop this jingoism
by Raju Nadig on Oct 12, 2014 01:39 PM
Get on to discussion table when our soldiers r murdered civilians r targeted??? Great advice...
Re: Re: Please, please stop this jingoism
by astro on Oct 12, 2014 01:58 PM
We must not bend to the threat of war history shows countries afraid of war or unable to protect life of their people have vanished so weust be bold
Re: Please, please stop this jingoism
by Dinesh S on Oct 12, 2014 02:21 PM
dont expect sonia to come and reward you foir your silly suggetsion she has no grounds now Modi ji will give fit reply Keep your mouth shut
It is now confirmed that an elected Pakistan Nawaz Sherrif Govt.is totally captive of Sunni Taliban and ISIs barbarians and acting under their pressure.Sane and civilised citizens of Pakistan though in miserable minority should help their elected govt.to defeat talibans.
