Moghuls came 700 years ago and vanished...british came 300 years ago and vanished.....but br@minns came 2500 years ago from central asia ..killed gr8 indus valley people...still ruling..poor indians....force used.bitter. samskrita lingo....as a secret code to exploit lower casts...and now when its dead trying to force it on common ppl....indians are still under these foreign power which never vanished....and still exploiting common indians...we all know who they are...so sad...
What has happened to Rediff? If you criticise each and every action of the Modi government, you will loose your credibility very soon. If you can find every action of them wrong, questions about the intelligence of the writers of Rediff shall start coming up, like people have been questioning the mental levels of certain speakers in the television channels debates. Please beware of that, Rediff. Being a liberal, leftist or progressive does not make you right every time. Left should not try to be RIGHT every time on every point!!!
Sanskrit is a great language; known to be mother of all language. If we want to learn indian culture, religion, Sanskrit is of great help as all our Vedas and Purans are written in Sanskrit. But it does not mean it should be forced upon us to study Sanskrit. Yes upto 8th or 10th we must study Sanskrit to learn the sweet slokas of Sanskrit and basic grammer of this language which also help in improving Hindi.
some modiji's mp's took oath in sanskrit . ENGLISH-HINDI AND say state language is enough.I ONCE MET A GROUP OF GERMAN ORIGIN people in romania-settlers of more then 200 years back.non spoke german.FOR THE FUN OUTSIDE bukarest are the gypsy towns.'white romanians call the brownish gypsies,hindians.
Re: rediff
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Nov 25, 2014 06:01 AM
But he spoke in English to the international audience and at the Australian parliament not in Sanskrit or Hindi. Stop imposing languages down the throats of people. More than Sanskrit Tamils has far more rights to India and Indian culture so why ignore one ancient Indian classical language that also equally influenced all modern Indian languages culture and the Hindu religion and only praise and foster another. This smacks of selective cultural and racial imperialism by the certain Indian elites. Modern Indian culture and Hinduism is more than 75% Dravidian/Tamil in origin as most Indians especially the masses even from the Indo Aryan speaking north are Dravidian or Dravidian hybrid. This is very obvious when you look at most Indians even from the north.
Everything RSS thinks or wants will be forced upon specially on the minorities. Didn't you hear Bhaghawat's sermon & Batra's history on all Indians being Hindu.
Re: Yes Because Of RSS
by Kamadhenu on Nov 25, 2014 12:00 AM
True Partiotisom
RSS has done so many good things for the suffering community- without looking at them whether they are Hindous or Muslims. Even Indira Gandhi acknowledged that during her days, when there was a disaster engulfed parts of AndharaPradesh. We also know that even in the Tsunami affected areas RSS has been doing good community service like so many other NGOs. While, we are neither supporters or opponents of RSS, we feel that there is very good potential in this organisation, unutilised and if they try to direct it in the right direction, then they will be doing a yomen service to all the communities in INDIA irrespective of the religion they belong to......continued
Re: Yes Because Of RSS
by Kamadhenu on Nov 25, 2014 12:00 AM
True Partiotisom
RSS has done so many good things for the suffering community- without looking at them whether they are Hindous or Muslims. Even Indira Gandhi acknowledged that during her days, when there was a disaster engulfed parts of AndharaPradesh. We also know that even in the Tsunami affected areas RSS has been doing good community service like so many other NGOs. While, we are neither supporters or opponents of RSS, we feel that there is very good potential in this organisation, unutilised and if they try to direct it in the right direction, then they will be doing a yomen service to all the communities in INDIA irrespective of the religion they belong to......continued
Re: Yes Because Of RSS
by deepak on Nov 25, 2014 12:29 AM
Sanskrit has nothing to do with RSS. It is the most valuable classical language which will not only provide the structure for language skills of most Indian languages, including Urdu which is also the offshoot of Awadhi dialects. Sanskrit provides an almost inexhaustible source of vocabulary, and has the unique ability to create new words through fusion. It is most regrettable that independent India has neglected its most important identity marker. The more Indians look into India for aspiration, and not to Arabia, Iran or Turkey, the better.
Re: Re: Yes Because Of RSS
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Nov 25, 2014 06:10 AM
But Sanskrit borrowed the grammar structure lexicon and syntax from Dravidian/Tamil. Even a large amount of Dravidian/Tamil vocabulary. This is the reason Indo Aryan is the only group amongst the Indo European family with the Dravidian retroflexes. This also includes Sanskrit. You can even see this Dravidian/Tamil influence in modern Indo Aryan languages like Hindi. See how words in a sentence is formed structured in Hindi it is the same as Dravidian/Tamil. Very different to English or even Other Indo European languages. Proves two things. Most of the modern Indo Aryan speakers were originally Dravidian/Tamil speakers, who over time changed replaces their Dravidian/Tamil speech with the Aryan words of their rulers/elite . Dravidian/Tamil grammar lexicon and syntax highly influenced all Indo Aryan languages including Sanskrit. Sorry to disappoint you beliefs but the real truth has to come out
Sanskrit is an ancient language and the linguistic base of Indian culture. Learning Sanskrit will help understand other Indian languages far better and be rooted in our own culture. The grammatical structure of Sanskrit is such that it helps a child’s reasoning and analytical ability far better. Learning Sanskrit is not regressive and going back to primitive life style as some German press would have us believe. The Germans would like to save us from such a situation. (Read their press and watch their attitude) The German news paper “Rheinische Post” reported the story under the caption, “Indian Government will put the break on thecing German” with a photo of a very ugly and shabby class room from some where in remote India. Is this the true representation of a Kendriya Vidhyalaya? If the Germans want to promote their culture should it be at the cost of our own culture? In which German schools are any of Indian language taught? Mandarin is very popular in Germany and they promote it while anything Indian is looked down as from "Third World" and something from the land of snake charmers. What is the scope the language German? Spanish and French will be a better option as many from this language speaking countries do business with India. If Indian wants to surrender to German arrogance their shabby treatment of anything about India, learn their language as an optional one.
Re: Sanskrit must remain German is a racist language
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Nov 25, 2014 05:54 AM
The oldest language in India is not Sanskrit but old Tamil get your facts correct. Sanskrit it an import from Central Asia just like English is an import from Europe and both highly influenced India and Indian culture as the came with a group of invaders or conquerors. Lastly Sanskrit borrowed a lot from Dravidian/Tamil not only a large amount of vocabulary but also its grammar lexicon and syntax. Tamil only borrowed vocabulary from Sanskrit, that is very trivial as all languages do it, however when a language borrows another languages grammar syntax and lexicon it is something major and it shows the profound influence that Tamil had on Sanskrit. This real fact is hidden by powerful vested interests
it is a known fact that sanskrit has been the one of the oldest & brightest language & major of the indian language has it base from the sanskrit. what is wrong in the language which has been part of indian culture from centurys. Only if you need to preserve the language it should be brought into mainstream & its usage applied for practical purpose as well. infact there shouldnt be any barrier in learning of any language & people should have preference to learn whichever lang. they wants.
Re: why find fault in the oldest language of india ?
by gttrr on Nov 24, 2014 11:36 PM
German is a racist language and they look down upon this great country.
Re: why find fault in the oldest language of india ?
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Nov 25, 2014 05:53 AM
The oldest language in India is not Sanskrit but old Tamil get your facts correct. Sanskrit it an import from Central Asia just like English is an import from Europe and both highly influenced India and Indian culture as the came with a group of invaders or conquerors. Lastly Sanskrit borrowed a lot from Dravidian/Tamil not only a large amount of vocabulary but also its grammar lexicon and syntax. Tamil only borrowed vocabulary from Sanskrit, that is very trivial as all languages do it, however when a language borrows another languages grammar syntax and lexicon it is something major and it shows the profound influence that Tamil had on Sanskrit. This real fact is hidden by powerful vested interests.
Without questioning the importance of Sanskrit, we have to ask ourselves why this language did not become a popular language in its own country. The obvious reasons that come to my mind is that it remained the language of the upper class for a long, long time. It was never a common man's language at any point of time. At the same time, when learning a particular language become important for one's livelihood, English and other languages thrived. Now, why students prefer French, Chinese, Mandarin, German etc. I don't think it is because of the beauty and literature of these languages. The only criteria is whether it will help them in their career and overseas employment. What else is there? It is just being practical in the prevailing circumstances. No disrespect for Sanskrit, no earnest love for any foreign languages. All those who say Sanskrit be made compulsory, conveniently teaches own kids some other utility language, because of the obvious limitations of Sanskrit as a means of governance, business and even communication!
Re: Utility of Sanskrit
by Anaga Mahajani on Nov 24, 2014 09:01 PM
What can you get or make her understand from the HRD minister who is not fit for the department about sanskrit. She has to go to the palmist to check her future and he said she be the next PM of India, if she does what he tells her. Smriti Irani is from Mumbai…… a TV role small actor. She is made to feel as if she is doing a great job and bollywood not hollywood ... the lady has hype and still continues to act in flims and serials? Gives false affidavite?? She is expert with tampering her owen school/college certificates are made ministers that too HRD ministers, donates sarees with phot of modi. Rapists Union Minister of State Nihal Chand, Snoopgate etc Giriraj Singh earned a rare public reprimand from Modi during the election campaign for saying all those who didn't vote for his leader would be packed of to Pakistan are all in the Government of Mr Modi and Shah is made in the BJP (Bhrashtrachari Janta Party) President all are tainted.. Wish you all the best alongwith Mr. Modi or IS this also GUJARAT MODEL Yes THIS IS GUJARAT MODEL my friends.
Re: Utility of Sanskrit
by Unmai Vilambi on Nov 25, 2014 05:16 AM
I would agree with you on all, except that Sanskrit is not native to today's Indian Subcontinent. It originated in the Steppes of Central Asia, and remained a pastoral language till it got it's script in India. It's grammar was written by an Afghani man, a Yousufzai Pathan, who changed his name to Panini.
Re: Utility of Sanskrit
by deepak on Nov 25, 2014 12:34 AM
That is nonsense. Sanskrit was displaced as the link language and language of learning due to invasions which replaced it. There can be no propagation of anything, language included without political power. The colonial languages of English is the best example of this. Moreover, Sanskrit never left us, rather because of being displaced, mutated into the modern Indian languages. Bengali, Hindi in its pristine form, Marathi, Gujrati etc etc are simply modified Sanskrit and share almost all vocabulary with each other. The other case in point is the rejuvenation of the Hebrew language in Israel. The language brought back from the dead with only 7000 words is now the language of advanced research and science in Israel.
I think Sanskrit should be revived and made the national language. Since it is base of all Indian languages, it wont cause heartburn in non-Hindi people when Hindi is forced down their throats.
