Re: Re: Re: Re: udhav thackeray
by target on Nov 11, 2014 08:46 PM
why he should give in to bjp demands? just answer me where bjp has shown true colour before election where its intention is to finish shiv sena
Re: Re: Re: Re: udhav thackeray
by target on Nov 11, 2014 08:47 PM
udhav thackeray should press for his all demands than only he should give support to crook bjp
Re: Re: Re: Re: udhav thackeray
by shenod parambath on Nov 11, 2014 09:35 PM
I AM AN OUTSIDER AND HAVE BEEN STAYING ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF MUMBAI FOR THE PAST 2 YEARS. BEFORE COMING HERE WHENEVER I READ IN THE NEWS PAPERS OF BIHARIS AND UP’S BEING RIDICULED AND HIT, I USED TO THINK THAT IT MAYBE THE RIGHT THING TO DO , BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE BRING ALONG WITH THEM DIRTYNESS,UNLAWFULLNESS AND SO MANY THING FROM THEIR PLACE WHICH IS LOOKED DOWN UPON BY ANY EDUCATED PERSON. BUT AFTER STAYING FOR 2 YEARS I CAME TO KNOW THAT AM WRONG. THERE IS SOME KIND OF ARROGANCE AND ATTITUDE AMONG THE MAHARASHTRIANS STAYING IN MUMBAI AND IT CLOSE VICINITY. I HAVE STAYED IN VIDHARBA , IN MARATWADA REGIONS AND ALSO IN KARAD-STATARA-KOLHAPUR REGIONS. BUT THIS KIND OF ATTITUDE I HAVE NEVER NOTICED AMONG THE MAHARASHTRIANS STAYING ELSEWHERE. IF YOU HAVE GOT INTO A PROBLEM OF ANY KIND IN MUMBAI AND ITS OUTSKIRTS,AND YOU SPEAK IN HINDI, ITS NOT NECESSARY THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A BIHARI AND EVEN IF YOU ARE RIGHT, IF YOU SPEAK IN HINDI THEN YOU ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE. WHY I STARTED WITH THIS SIMPLE STORY IS THAT THIS SAME KIND OF ARROGANCE WAS PROTRAYED BY SHIV SENA BEFORE AND AFTER THE ELECTIONS. BEFORE THE ELECTIONS,I DO NOT KNOW WHAT WENT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS BUT IF LEFT TO IMAGINATION THEN THE SHIV SENA WAS DEMANDING MORE SEATS THEN THE BJP. YES , I DO AGGREE THAT THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE CONGRESS WAS THE FIRST CHOICE AND NCP WAS WITH THEM. THE THIRD PLACE WAS WITH THE SHIV SENA AND BJP WAS A DISTANT FOURTH. DURING THIS PERIOD SHIV SENA WAS IN A POSITION TO SHAR
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: udhav thackeray
by shenod parambath on Nov 11, 2014 09:42 PM
SEATS THEN THE BJP. NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TIME WHEN MODI HAS ALMOST ELIMINITED THE CONGRESS AND WON WITH A WHOPPING MAJORITY AT THE CENTRE. DINT UDHAV KNOW THAT NOW DICTATING THE TERMS ALONG THE OLD LINES WILL NOT WORK? THE SEAT SHARING FORMULA WENT ON FOR MANY DAYS WITH NO RESULT. ULTIMATELY IT BROKE UP. AFTER YOU BREAK UP ON JUST A SIMPLE POINT OF SEAT SHARING, IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT NOW BOTH FIGHT ALONE AND SHOW THEIR STRENGHTS. THE BREAK UP WAS NOT DONE ON A BITTER NOTE . BUT AFTER BOTH THE PARTIES DECIDED TO FIGHT ALONE, THE LANGUAGE USED BY UDHAV T SHOWS THE KIND OF ARROGANCE WHICH I HAD EARLER TALKED ABOUT. HE BROUGHT MODIS FATHER INTO PLAY,BROUGHT AFZAL KHAN INTO PLAY AND THIS LANGUAGE WAS USED FOR A PARTY WHICH WAS WITH THEM FOR A DECADE AND ON A PERSON WHO BECAME THE PRIME MINISTER ON A ONE MAN SHOW OR ON A PERSON WHO HAS SO MUCH OF BRAINS(WHETHER GOOD OR BAD) THAT HE WHITE WASHED UTTAR PRADESH JUST ON THE STRATGEY OF HIS BRAINS. DOES THIS SHOW UDHAV IN GOOD LIGHT? HE MIGHT GET A FEW CLAPS WHEN HE SAYS SUCH THINGS FROM PEOPLE WHO DOSENT HAVE BRAINS OR WHO LOOK AT HIS BRAND OF POLICTICS COS THERE IS NO DEARTH OF FOOLS IN INDIA. HE WENT ON USING THE MOST FOUL LANGUAGE AGAINST BJP AND MUST HAVE THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE WILL VOTE FOR HIM. AGAIN HE FAILED. THIS WAS HIS SECOND MISTAKE. NOW AFTER THE ELECTIONS ARE OVER,HE SHOULD HAVE HUMBLE ACCEPTED THE FACTS AND BARGAINED FOR A GOOD FEW MINISTRIES AND JOINED ALONG WITH THE BJP.BUT THE ARROGANCE WILL NOT DISSAPEAR O
Re: Re: Re: Re: udhav thackeray
by shenod parambath on Nov 11, 2014 09:36 PM
I AM AN OUTSIDER AND HAVE BEEN STAYING ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF MUMBAI FOR THE PAST 2 YEARS. BEFORE COMING HERE WHENEVER I READ IN THE NEWS PAPERS OF BIHARIS AND UP’S BEING RIDICULED AND HIT, I USED TO THINK THAT IT MAYBE THE RIGHT THING TO DO , BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE BRING ALONG WITH THEM DIRTYNESS,UNLAWFULLNESS AND SO MANY THING FROM THEIR PLACE WHICH IS LOOKED DOWN UPON BY ANY EDUCATED PERSON. BUT AFTER STAYING FOR 2 YEARS I CAME TO KNOW THAT AM WRONG. THERE IS SOME KIND OF ARROGANCE AND ATTITUDE AMONG THE MAHARASHTRIANS STAYING IN MUMBAI AND IT CLOSE VICINITY. I HAVE STAYED IN VIDHARBA , IN MARATWADA REGIONS AND ALSO IN KARAD-STATARA-KOLHAPUR REGIONS. BUT THIS KIND OF ATTITUDE I HAVE NEVER NOTICED AMONG THE MAHARASHTRIANS STAYING ELSEWHERE. IF YOU HAVE GOT INTO A PROBLEM OF ANY KIND IN MUMBAI AND ITS OUTSKIRTS,AND YOU SPEAK IN HINDI, ITS NOT NECESSARY THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A BIHARI AND EVEN IF YOU ARE RIGHT, IF YOU SPEAK IN HINDI THEN YOU ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE. WHY I STARTED WITH THIS SIMPLE STORY IS THAT THIS SAME KIND OF ARROGANCE WAS PROTRAYED BY SHIV SENA BEFORE AND AFTER THE ELECTIONS. BEFORE THE ELECTIONS,I DO NOT KNOW WHAT WENT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS BUT IF LEFT TO IMAGINATION THEN THE SHIV SENA WAS DEMANDING MORE SEATS THEN THE BJP. YES , I DO AGGREE THAT THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE CONGRESS WAS THE FIRST CHOICE AND NCP WAS WITH THEM. THE THIRD PLACE WAS WITH THE SHIV SENA AND BJP WAS A DISTANT FOURTH. DURING THIS PERIOD SHIV SENA WAS IN A POSITION TO SHAR
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: udhav thackeray
by shenod parambath on Nov 11, 2014 09:41 PM
SEATS THEN THE BJP. NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TIME WHEN MODI HAS ALMOST ELIMINITED THE CONGRESS AND WON WITH A WHOPPING MAJORITY AT THE CENTRE. DINT UDHAV KNOW THAT NOW DICTATING THE TERMS ALONG THE OLD LINES WILL NOT WORK? THE SEAT SHARING FORMULA WENT ON FOR MANY DAYS WITH NO RESULT. ULTIMATELY IT BROKE UP. AFTER YOU BREAK UP ON JUST A SIMPLE POINT OF SEAT SHARING, IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT NOW BOTH FIGHT ALONE AND SHOW THEIR STRENGHTS. THE BREAK UP WAS NOT DONE ON A BITTER NOTE . BUT AFTER BOTH THE PARTIES DECIDED TO FIGHT ALONE, THE LANGUAGE USED BY UDHAV T SHOWS THE KIND OF ARROGANCE WHICH I HAD EARLER TALKED ABOUT. HE BROUGHT MODIS FATHER INTO PLAY,BROUGHT AFZAL KHAN INTO PLAY AND THIS LANGUAGE WAS USED FOR A PARTY WHICH WAS WITH THEM FOR A DECADE AND ON A PERSON WHO BECAME THE PRIME MINISTER ON A ONE MAN SHOW OR ON A PERSON WHO HAS SO MUCH OF BRAINS(WHETHER GOOD OR BAD) THAT HE WHITE WASHED UTTAR PRADESH JUST ON THE STRATGEY OF HIS BRAINS. DOES THIS SHOW UDHAV IN GOOD LIGHT? HE MIGHT GET A FEW CLAPS WHEN HE SAYS SUCH THINGS FROM PEOPLE WHO DOSENT HAVE BRAINS OR WHO LOOK AT HIS BRAND OF POLICTICS COS THERE IS NO DEARTH OF FOOLS IN INDIA. HE WENT ON USING THE MOST FOUL LANGUAGE AGAINST BJP AND MUST HAVE THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE WILL VOTE FOR HIM. AGAIN HE FAILED. THIS WAS HIS SECOND MISTAKE. NOW AFTER THE ELECTIONS ARE OVER,HE SHOULD HAVE HUMBLE ACCEPTED THE FACTS AND BARGAINED FOR A GOOD FEW MINISTRIES AND JOINED ALONG WITH THE BJP.BUT THE ARROGANCE WILL NOT DISSAPEAR O
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: udhav thackeray
by shenod parambath on Nov 11, 2014 09:45 PM
OVERNITE. ALL ALONG WE HEARD OF HUMILATION AND PRIDE AND WAS LEFT WONDERING WHAT PRIDE AND HUMILATION WERE THESE GUYS TALKING ABOUT. IF SHIV SENA WANTED TO IMPROVE ITS POSITION THEN THEN SHOULD HAVE JOINED HANDS AND WORKED TO IMPROVE FROM WITHIN. NOW MODI AND GANG WILL CLINICALLY FINISH OFF SHIV SENA FROM MAHARASHTRA .LIKE RAJ THAKRAY BEING WIPED OFF, WE HAVE A DOSE OF HIS ARROGANCE BEFORE THIS AND NOW WE DON’T KNOW ABOUT HIS WHERABOUTS EVEN. THE LAST JOKE WAS FROM UDHAV HIMSELF SAYING THAT ANTI-HINDU FORCES HAVE STARTED RAISING THEIR HEADS IN MUMBAI. WHAT A JOKE THAT WAS? WHERE ARE WE LIVING MR UDHAV? IN THE17TH CENTURY OR 21ST?
Re: Re: udhav thackeray
by raghu rao on Nov 11, 2014 08:42 PM
Another career is not required. He can just have ussal paav, missal paav, bhaakar-chatni at Matoshree and spend the remaining days of his life.
Maharsahtra is not much about Marathi politics but caste politics. Its all about Brahmin, Mahaar, Maang, Dhangar, Komti etc. That's why corrupts like NCP still gets votes.
For all those "intellectual" souls who are saying that BJP should not take support from NCP...
Can you answer... What other option BJP has?
Give in to the arrogance of Shiv Sena? Involve the arrogant, hate-driven Shiv Sena in government and then face hurdles in everyday governance?
Isnt it better option to take OUTSIDE support from NCP.... At least then there will be no internal hurdles in functioning..
And then if NCP tries to dictate terms, DO NOT obey them.. At the most what will happen?? NCP will withdraw support? SO BE IT! That way people will know the steel of BJP Governance and the importance of clear majority.
The next elections will then get BJP the clear majority!!
SO for the time being better option is outside support from NCP
Re: Hey Intelligent People
by vishal kulkarni on Nov 11, 2014 08:21 PM
Dear , intellectual remark is reserved only for BJP, AAP and its supporters. Because other are corrupt or arrogant or fools. Why intellectual people needs their support? Do what happened in New Delhi. Let there be Presidents rule about half a year, when all political parties are ready ..fresh elections. Meantime Modi magic will subside ..or unfortunately can be more magical
Re: Re: Hey Intelligent People
by Ashvini on Nov 11, 2014 08:25 PM
We understand its your heredity problem to howl with half knowledge! But you can at least make an effort to improve....
GO and see the reprimand given by SC to Delhi Governor for keeping Delhi hung for 6 months! Do you have any idea about the fiscal loss the state faces when there is no govt functioning?
Re: Re: Re: Hey Intelligent People
by vishal kulkarni on Nov 11, 2014 08:33 PM
Ye I understand, but they say na.. to strengthen the democracy this is just a nominal amount. AN then probably you will get your own government ..of INTELLECTUALS , so that is not a big deal for such a wealthy nation and wealthiest party like BJP.(Because they can charge 100 Rs for Modi's rallies now) And naturally other parties will lose their deposits. Then what is the problem in giving a try. Jay Bharat.. Jay Democracy ..
Re: Re: Re: Hey Intelligent People
by vishal kulkarni on Nov 11, 2014 08:33 PM
Ye I understand, but they say na.. to strengthen the democracy this is just a nominal amount. AN then probably you will get your own government ..of INTELLECTUALS , so that is not a big deal for such a wealthy nation and wealthiest party like BJP.(Because they can charge 100 Rs for Modi's rallies now) And naturally other parties will lose their deposits. Then what is the problem in giving a try. Jay Bharat.. Jay Demacracy ..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hey Intelligent People
by vishal kulkarni on Nov 11, 2014 08:48 PM
Modi ajoba is brilliant and worthy of doing anything now.And again Reliance , Adanisand many wealthy gujjus ( who pay their taxes almost regularly) are there to help out their buddies.Its only poor parties like us who will suffer. And again Mr. Modi and his associates are so intellectual and worthy that they will bring FDI in elections, like they have brought in many areas like real estate. For such business minded people , who start their business with first cry after birth , sponsoring re-election is not really a Herculean task.
To make matters worse, the Sena constantly abused the BJP during and after the elections. It would be difficult for anyone, leave alone the BJP, to reconcile o such snide and abusive comments. In a way the Sena shut the doors on the BJP well before the results came in.
Re: Re: Why things can only get worse for the Shiv Sena
by vishal kulkarni on Nov 11, 2014 08:14 PM
look at this gentle ..lady so soft spoken, careful, sensitive calling others abusing..joke.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why things can only get worse for the Shiv Sena
by raghu rao on Nov 11, 2014 08:49 PM
Saamna is not to be read but to wipe something in the morning.
its good that so many people are worried about shivsena and its future. Dear all its thumb rule , if a party looses peoples confidence it will be out of politics.You are not worried about Shivsena but more about BJP. In case Shivsena doesn't support them they don't have face to hide. But look at their pathetic condition, now they are so hungry for power that they are ready to join hands with 'Naturally Corrupt Party'. BJP has won 121 seat after begging candidates from NCP, Congress and MNS.Then also they fall short of mejority. Their only savior the Superman Mr. Modi has to taake 25 ralles still they fall short. They put all the power, might and money to win elections, still they fall short. Shivsena fought alone like a lion, and even if they die fighting we are proud of that. We are a warrior race and we only said in history ' Bachenge to aur bhi ladenge'
Re: hahaha
by Standard TechnoSales on Nov 11, 2014 08:18 PM
agrrreeed with you. actually modi,s position is just like balasaheb for SENA or INDIRA for congress. i.e. if he finish his party also get finished., if modi get any black spot on his image he will be no more,
Re: Re: hahaha
by jignesh patel on Nov 11, 2014 08:53 PM
Modi has many White Spots in his back pocket to cover those Black Spots. And also he has many people like Amit Shah, where they can show magic in elections.
Do think that politicians doesnt have black spots... its thier skills to be it hiden.
Re: slap
by MHS on Nov 11, 2014 08:05 PM
I wonder Shiv Sena MNS will do the same thing that they did to South Indians decades ago. It seems southies like you have forgotten their treatment
Re: Re: slap
by poorobcgeorge on Nov 11, 2014 08:13 PM
southies never bow before north indians like you scums no wonder. gujarat treats you like insects
Re: If BJP goes with NCP
by atul pandya on Nov 11, 2014 08:14 PM
Its unfortunate that SS and supporters cannot see the visible error. Swabhiman is good and every single individual should have, but Abhiman is bad. People are not understanding it. SS leaders failed to deliver on every front, but still not ready to understand. It is politics and in politics right timing is most important which they have missed. "Only Swabhiman se Pet nahin bharta he, Logon ko kaam dena padta he". Sinchan Ghotala, Farmers Suicides, Bad infrastructure, why SS not raised any voice all these years? More interested in creating noise instead working for people. It was Maharashtra State election, and every nook and corner, Maharastrian people have not supported SS, who is responsible. It is their failure to assure people about their credibility.
What could have been sorted out with a simple plain meeting between Udhav & Amit has got so much into knots that it is a classic case of how lack of tact, maturity & purpose on the part of Shiv Sena can result.
Re: Why things can only get worse for the Shiv Sena
by Maximum on Nov 11, 2014 07:38 PM
Sorry You dont Understand The Meaning of going with Sharad Pawar If BJP goes with Pawar the same Pawar will ensure BJP is not elected to power Next Time Best of Luck for BJP
Re: Re: Why things can only get worse for the Shiv Sena
by Against Pseudos on Nov 12, 2014 01:20 AM
Why next time? Pawar already ensured BJP won minimum seats and his party maximum. :-)
It seems there are a lot of writers these days (apart of new anchors) who are looking towards BJP to throw them a piece of roti. As amatter of fact,by taking support of NCP (who modi called naturally corrupt party) they have shown that BJP has become just another congress. And yes ...MNS & Sena do have a propriety over Marathi pride.It's another thing that northies cannot digest marathi pride.Next thing for marathi people will be to ask for devolution of power from India. Separate Maharashtra is even better.We do not want Job beggers in our state.
Re: Who is this duffer writer ??
by Anurag patel on Nov 11, 2014 07:37 PM
What do you mean by Job beggers..!! Go and treat yourself with some doctor..Because of Industrialist from Outside, your brothers getting jobs..!!
Re: Re: Who is this duffer writer ??
by bharat gadilkar on Nov 11, 2014 09:03 PM
Industrialists coming from outside are also beggers . Who asked them to come to Maharashtra ? They came because Maharashtra provides great oportunity for business. Nobody came for social service
Re: Who is this duffer writer ??
by atul pandya on Nov 11, 2014 08:13 PM
Its unfortunate that SS and supporters cannot see the visible error. Swabhiman is good and every single individual should have, but Abhiman is bad. People are not understanding it. SS leaders failed to deliver on every front, but still not ready to understand. It is politics and in politics right timing is most important which they have missed. "Only Swabhiman se Pet nahin bharta he, Logon ko kaam dena padta he". Sinchan Ghotala, Farmers Suicides, Bad infrastructure, why SS not raised any voice all these years? More interested in creating noise instead working for people. It was Maharashtra State election, and every nook and corner, Maharastrian people have not supported SS, who is responsible. It is their failure to assure people about their credibility.
It is unfortunate that Udhav did not read the writing on the wall. He need to learn politics if he and sena want to survive. Just one has to see how Shri Sharad Pawar acted, where there is no ego only survival act. The violent means of behavior is probably is the main factor no one like violence now a days whether Maharashtrian or so called non Maharashtrian. Everybody like peaceful living.
Re: Shiv Sena debecle
by alex copperfield on Nov 11, 2014 07:11 PM
you are right. matter of few years and this man will finish it off...the great work done by the legendary Bal Thakre
Re: Shiv Sena debecle
by RAJENDRA on Nov 11, 2014 07:24 PM
Like it or not, Shiv Sena has not shown any vision, no thought of development and do something constructive for the common man. All these years, all they did is to show their muscle power, disrupt common man's life, and most of their leaders managed to do was switch from cycles,bikes to imported cars.Mr Udhav Thackery, changed tunes from time to time, from Marathi Manoos to Mumbaikar to Hinduvata just to fool the common man.Sorry wish Mr Udhav Thackery realises that Mumbai is like a small India, with people from different walks of life live and work. Had he persued inclusive policies, he could have been the CM today.
