if this was horrible mistake from Russia then Russia commited big mistake by sacrificing his more than 250000 soldiers to stop massacre from germany in WWII.
If it was big horrible mistake then would like to see 35000 N missiles going all over the world from Russia!!! Ukraine has no right on his territory!!!
Re: Russia show some fireworks!!!
by Dipak Bose on Jul 24, 2014 05:30 AM
passive radar guided air to air missle would hit the nose where the radar array is.
This is a very important piece of evidence of air to air attack, rather than a missile if seen in conjunction with the Russian military data of the Ukraine military aircraft "popping up" in front of the airliner just before it disappeared from radar. It also helps explain some other info released.
If the Su-25 that popped up from low altitude in front of the airliner fired AA missiles, they would confront the airliner from the forward sector and damage would most likely be in the forward part of the aircraft. The cockpit looks like it was completely riddled, there is probably very little chance the pilots even had time to react, let alone send a distress message.
From that angle of approach, it's likely the airline pilots didn't see the Su-25 attacking them and probably didn't see the missiles(s) until maybe the last second before the explosion which killed them. I'll bet the cockpit voice recorders wont have anything more from the pilots, at that last moment, than exclamation of shock.
This could explain why the airliner slowed down the last couple of minutes. With the cockpit wrecked and the pilots dead, the throttle mechanism or something else may have been affected, which slowed down the airliner. It could of flew steady for a short while as it was breaking up.
Targeting the front of the airliner had to be planned and was why the Su-25 attacked from the front and below, out
Re: Russia show some fireworks!!!
by Dipak Bose on Jul 24, 2014 05:44 AM
one Air-India flight from new Delhi to Birmingham was on the same route as MH17 but on opposite direction.
Air Traffic Controller of Ukraine asked the pilot of that air-India flight to contact the pilot of MH17 as MH17 was out of contact with the Ukranian Air Traffic Controller for some time before the crash. ( now Ukranian Government confiscated all airtraffic communication data)
That explains the fact, that a military Aircraft SU-25 of Ukranian Air Force attacked the front of the plane MH17, Pilots were killed, and the rest of the plane fell down intact ( photo evidences are there).
A BUK ground to air Missile could smash the entire plane into small pieces in the sky. That was not the case. (photo evidences are there).
In short , the problem in Ukraine is created by US for suppressing Russia, MH17 incidence was planned by Ukraine to happen which was trap for Russia, Russia executed as per trap set by Ukraine. The innocent civilians suffered. So all three nations needs to be prosecuted
Re: Hippocratic US again using this incidence for their own Agend
by Nilesh Panda on Jul 23, 2014 11:47 PM
Well said, fully agreed with your analysis.......
MH17 accident is the sad incidence happened, very unfortunate. My deep condolence to the families. The incocents became victims of the cold war where 3 parties involved US, Ukraine and Russia. All three are equally responsible for this. As per my understand the facts are - 1. US was highly unsecure for democratically elected Ukraine government inclined towards Russia. They cannot see Russia growing. They used some of the Ukraine leader to create the fiasco between Ukraine and Russia. It all started there. 2. Ukrainian defense aircrafts were downed by pro-Russian rebellion in the same week flying at similar height. Then why Ukraine did not announced ite war zone and dangerous for the civilian aircraft. Even UN did not do that. 3. As per the report MH17 was diverted from its normal route by Ukraine air traffic control to war zone where defense aircrafts were downed earlier week. Also it was instructed to MH17 to fly lower. 4. So its deliberate act of Ukraine to corner Russia. 5. The intercepted conversation published by Ukraine immediately US backed it without checking authenticity. The US wants a reason to put pressure on Russia. When 26/11 happened there were lot of such conversations available even when incidence was happening for 3 days. US did not concluded any think against Pakistan. Because they do not interest in Pakistan. The US and UN has been always showing double standard.
