I'm amazed that some people don't believe what is staring them in the face and cook up conspiracy theories just to keep themselves in delusion.
They think intercepted conversations can be cooked but their theory that "USA backed" Ukraine shot down the plane so that Russia does not invade Ukraine thereby safeguarding Ukrainian oil from Russia is a plausible theory!!! Amazing!
Re: I'm amazed
by jatin joshipura on Jul 18, 2014 11:47 AM
any invasion of Ukraine by russia is in any case would be deemed illegal and bound to lead to more sanctions against Russia by west
Re: Re: I'm amazed
by rajesh on Jul 18, 2014 11:48 AM
I know actually, US is nice. The problem is always the oil. bad oil. I hate all oils. All oils are bad. I see kaangies and commies behind oil. Ban oil.
Re: Re: Re: I'm amazed
by Vijay Sahani on Jul 18, 2014 11:51 AM
It's not others who are looking at things with one ideology. it's actually you who is looking at everything from the prisim of Oil.
Re: Re: Re: I'm amazed
by rajesh on Jul 18, 2014 11:55 AM
Hmmm. US is nice. A few top rated politicians doesn't make a country. Feminine politicos always fight for agendas. country is its citizens and their quality. If all are against Russia, i decided to support it. When all go against US, i may support it as well. Being like water is better than being a stone which rolls for no apparent reason.
Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm amazed
by Vijay Sahani on Jul 18, 2014 12:01 PM
Good defence of your irrational arguments. But irrational they are all said and done.
Re: I'm amazed
by cattamanchi chaitanya on Jul 18, 2014 11:52 AM
well that is a good theory right .. While the world's attention has got diverted to this incident , Israel silently launched its ground invasion of Gaza which is USA backed ..
It is definitely their plot. These CIA buggers are playing this game since a century. For ex way back in 1950s they had assailsinated Syrian democratic President and brought a dictator . just for some oil. Now that this incident of plane has taken place. The UK have already asked for un security meet. The Americans can leverage whole world against Russia so that Russia cannot invade Ukraine. . The west will support Ukraine so that they will enjoy their oil supplies at very cheap rates
Re: cia
by goodsamirtan on Jul 18, 2014 11:25 AM
And before any intelligent brands me names. Let me clarify. I am a Hindu not a musla , no where do I love communism , and not supporting Russia because it is an all weather friend India ( it stood with us during wars, Indian plane hijacking ). See tomo. The way Russia and China is made as a villain , India will also be shown like a villainn.
Re: Re: cia
by jatin joshipura on Jul 18, 2014 11:30 AM
Cold war was over before 25 years and relations with US has grown over the past 15 years. Still some cold warriors have not been able to get rid of America and west phobia
Re: cia
by rajesh on Jul 18, 2014 11:28 AM
US have money which they print at their own will, which Russia or other countries like India cant do.
I still remember the theory the so called US intelligence floated during first malaysian airline crash. Iranian passengers hijacked to kazhakshtan?? rediff didn't show that as head line
Re: Re: cia
by rajesh on Jul 18, 2014 11:31 AM
Years ago, when US staged its war ships in indian ocean for attack on India, only Russia had the spine to take on US and ask. them to leave. Unfortunately the patriots now believe only what is shown on media
Re: Re: cia
by jatin joshipura on Jul 18, 2014 11:32 AM
because editors of rediff are not psychos like you. It was claimed by America and Israel phobic "analysts" that 9/11 was a CIA or Mossad conspiracy
Re: Re: Re: cia
by rajesh on Jul 18, 2014 11:35 AM
Thank you for your intelligence. I do value it. It gives my life some meaning to fight for, which i never had and never will.
Re: Re: Re: cia
by goodsamirtan on Jul 18, 2014 11:36 AM
Maybe you need to see a shrink as soon as possible. In every post you are asking everybody to go to psychos .
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: cia
by rajesh on Jul 18, 2014 11:39 AM | Hide message
Jitin, i got your sarcasm. How cruel of you to ask me to go to pshychiatrist. I am just an useless bug living online. Offline am a dumb fella
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: cia
by goodsamirtan on Jul 18, 2014 11:41 AM
Stop fanatzing USA please. Dont bring that musla 9/11 discussion here . it is their problem.
However think relevantly in this discussion. I have given replies to your every discussion but rediff not posting it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: cia
by goodsamirtan on Jul 18, 2014 11:53 AM
Yeah right . but see Malaysia problem but USA will come in , UK will come in. Then invariably whole world will step in
this is a major mess by the malaysian and they along with the aviation authorities are responsible. why was their route not reset and a civil aircraft allowed to fly over a war zone
Re: Precaution
by shubasrikrishna on Jul 18, 2014 11:06 AM
he world does depend on Russia ( unlike china). The Russians depend on the world to sell their goods. All countries should stop buying from Russia and they will come down to their Knees. See the body language of Putin talking ( looking down without eyes facing the camera). He is sure he is responsible for this and appears scared....
The US intelligence on the earlier Malaysisan airlines crash had assumed that it was hijacked to Kazhaksthan by some iranian passengers. It was spread by all those biased news portals.
It was not for fun, they wanted oil from Ukraine then also.
Rediff, please don't be a spoon to USA just because you may be having offices there.
Re: USA Zindabad
by rajesh on Jul 18, 2014 10:59 AM
It may or may not have been shot down by terrorists. It can be a technical glitch as well. Why blaming just for the same of flash news. Let the black box be recovered first and then blame for sake of 'news freshness'. Nonetheless, its tough to believe that a missile can shot down and aeroplane flying at an altitude of about 10 kms. Surface to air missile, seriously? Amsterdam is not near to Ukraine, for the flight to go so low. Just some doubts.
Re: Re: USA Zindabad
by rajesh on Jul 18, 2014 11:04 AM
Cant it also accidentally be US backed Ukranian attack? to divert the US backed Israel Gaza crisis/Ukraine crisis for oil? Why not Rediff publish in that angle also?
Re: Re: Re: USA Zindabad
by Vijay Sahani on Jul 18, 2014 11:07 AM
Now I would have expected such lop sided logic from a fanatic muslim who see American hand in anything evil.
Re: Re: Re: Re: USA Zindabad
by rajesh on Jul 18, 2014 11:10 AM
Vijay Sahani, Where did i mention indian religionism? and its associated mental retardation? My logic is better than urs. Saffron is not the only color, take green as well. Be white inside but.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: USA Zindabad
by Vijay Sahani on Jul 18, 2014 11:13 AM
You have not been watching news. Just reading headlines. Find out about the sophistication of the missile. Wjhat about the intercepted conversation between Rebel commander and Russian military intelligence which is a giveaway?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: USA Zindabad
by jatin joshipura on Jul 18, 2014 11:16 AM
Rebel commander boasted on (anti)social media too just about the same time Malaysia plane crashed claiming that they have shot down a Ukraine Plane which clearly proves that Rebels mistook Malaysian plane for an Ukraniain militry aircraft
Re: Re: Re: Re: USA Zindabad
by rajesh on Jul 18, 2014 11:22 AM
Conversation and tapes can be manipulated and presented to media. Is it such a tough thing these days? My only point is, don't be just one eyed in everything. What media says may not always be true. All have their own agendas. Me as well
Re: Re: Re: USA Zindabad
by goodsamirtan on Jul 18, 2014 11:12 AM
It is definitely their plot. These CIA buggers are playing this game since a century. For ex way back in 1950s they had assailsinated Syrian democratic President and brought a dictator . just for some oil. Now that this incident of plane has taken place.
The UK have already asked for un security meet. The Americans can leverage whole world against Russia so that Russia cannot invade Ukraine. . The west will support Ukraine so that they will enjoy their oil supplies at very cheap rates
Re: Re: USA Zindabad
by goodsamirtan on Jul 18, 2014 11:06 AM
It was flying from Amsterdam to Malaysia. But still Malaysia is not near Ukraine for the plane to fly so low. They say the rebels used BUK surface to air missile mounted on a truck. This missile which is advanced was given by Russia.
I agree with you completely . it is just a ploy to make sure ukraine is not invaded soon by Russia and the oil supplies in this route Is not controlled by Russia.
Already Europe is in bad shape because Russia had cut off oil supply.
Re: Re: Re: USA Zindabad
by jatin joshipura on Jul 18, 2014 11:14 AM
All these conspiracy theorists like Rajesh and goodsamaritan should consult psychiatrist immediately to get rid of their Americaphobia
militants whether you call them separatists or rebels or by any other name are creating trouble everywhere resulting death of innocent and often unsuspecting persons
Re: russia backed militants downed malaysian aircraft
by Vijay Sahani on Jul 18, 2014 10:37 AM
These are Russian government supported rebels. Proxy war is the latest buzzword.
Re: Re: Re: russia backed militants downed malaysian aircraft
by Vijay Sahani on Jul 18, 2014 10:50 AM
Ukraine has released taped conversation between the Rebel commander and Russian military men. The rebels are in touch with Russian military and obviously such sophisticated missiles are being supplied by Russia.
