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Will Pakistan survive?


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AK
A lesson
by AK on Dec 22, 2014 09:11 AM

For India. Increasingly the number of people who want to emulate Pakistan, in terms of religious fundamentalism, seem to be growing in number in India. Unless we put a break on that, we may soon slip. Once religions become a tool for winning the electorate, we are inviting trouble.

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King Kong
As you Sow, thou shall you Reap!
by King Kong on Dec 21, 2014 06:21 PM

And they dream of annexing Kashmir!

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Grizzly
No, there is no survival for them!
by Grizzly on Dec 21, 2014 03:54 PM

pourrkks have already destroyed themselves.

The so called "country" we are told about does not exist. pourkkki authority does not exist in large areas under its supposed governance. People openly flout laws and there is no common law for everybody.

Anybody with a gun rules over the ones without a gun, and someone with a bigger gun rules over the other guy and then the gangs with more guns rule over the guy with the bigger gun.

In the nexus of drrugs, arms, fleshh trade, terrorriissm etc. there is no order or law.

And those who think pourrkks are still a nation are only deluding themselves and worsening the situation of a loose nuke more closer to reality.

If international community is any serious about saving itself from a nuke holocaust, it must take the pouurkki nukes away urgently!

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Rameswar Jena
survival of PAK
by Rameswar Jena on Dec 21, 2014 03:33 PM

The only way to survive is to follow steps of progressive countries of world give up support of fundamentalists. Otherwise there is no time to leave the country ruled by terrorists.

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zo khual
Pakis & their religion
by zo khual on Dec 21, 2014 03:27 PM

Pakis and their religion are more tune with killing and or be killed. In thier book, survival is for getting more time to kill. As it is, they will survive for maiming and killing each other happily. If you give them Kashmir on a platter, they will still find some other reason to kill you. Because, they are born and brought up like that. Don't be so sorry for them, they have different mindset.

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Jagdish Dubey
Survive?
by Jagdish Dubey on Dec 21, 2014 01:22 PM

Does he mean as a nation as we se it now. It has survived Bangladesh? So if Baluchistan and the No mans land between AfPak break away, will we still call it Pakistan. Ok so USSR has disintegrated between so many nations but Russia is very much there. Pakistan is not a federation like erstwhile USSR.Or Will Sindh also break away leaving just Punjab and POK as Pakistan? It just can't die or can it? So what is meant by survive in this case?

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yaqubmashi
Pakistan is a failed state because of Islam
by yaqubmashi on Dec 21, 2014 06:12 AM

Islam is against secularism, independent thought, women's equality, sometimes
they are saying music is bad, sometimes they are saying films are bad, nobody
can take any criticism, anybody stands against blasphemy laws is shot and killed.


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Kanu Singh
By brain washing people with excuse of religious brotherhood̷
by Kanu Singh on Dec 21, 2014 03:03 AM  | Hide replies

They degraded people intelligence, so they cannot think for themselves rationally and realize that they are being used as cheap soldiers and fodder for War of Pakistanis ambitions.

But problem with a mentally degraded irrational person is, he doesn’t think rationally, he might attack others without questions on your command, but could easily turn back on you with whatever irrational and unrealistic excuse he might come up with.

With decades of degrading people intelligence and rationally for their own petty gains, Pakistanis are facing like Z0mbie Ap0calypse of their own making, and there are no quick fixes.

On the other hand, India worked hard on improving people rationally and ability to think for themselves by rational education, movies, drama extra. So there are very few Muslims from India involved in global conflicts, as most of them can think, what’s good for them.


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Kanu Singh
Re: By brain washing people with excuse of religious brotherhood&
by Kanu Singh on Dec 21, 2014 03:14 AM
A blind and very trusting follower like Hanuman, feels very nice, when he works on your side and do things without asking too many irritating questions, but could easily become very dangerous, if for some reason he change his mind and start working for opposition.

So if people start getting very impressed with my talks, I tell them, ‘don’t trust me blindly, even if I had good intentions, but my perspective and analysis might be wrong, so if you feel some idea worth considering think about it, otherwise just forget and move on. You got to make the final decision, what’s worth following and what’s not, after all what you follow can directly impact your life, not mine’.


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sreejith sreekumar
Re: Re: By brain washing people with excuse of religious brotherh
by sreejith sreekumar on Dec 23, 2014 08:38 PM
Whoever you are please read Ramayana(if you have not read it) or if you have, read again. You have completely lost the plot about Hanuman.

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Sameer Shaikh
xz
by Sameer Shaikh on Dec 20, 2014 10:51 PM  | Hide replies

Other than just education, Pakistan followed these wrong policies which resulted in their failure.

1) Pakistan constitution is not secular like India. Even in our national anthem we mention all communities and their sacrifice to describe India. Pakistan constitution has welfare for community. To make it worse, they declare ahmedis as non citizens with no equal rights just because they follow different style.

2) Being obsessed with India and always try to intimate India in army spending. No welfare for their people, no good policies, just obsessed with India...

3) Not education their people. Madressas are not bad, but when it is diluted version it becomes problem. It is one of the best religion with worst followers when you get interpretation wrong.

To get kashmir Pakistan produced second line army, illegal mujahedin, militants as strategic asset.During soveit freedom many from FATA and waziristan went to afghan to free russian occupation with help of CIA, of USA who gave money to ISI. They built close relation with Taliban and then with same ideology the became small groups who wanted a separate laws and majority nation. After usa intervention, Pakistan strategic location became their liability where people from uzbek, arab and afghan enter their land and because of lawlessness of Pakistan many mafias joined their groups for funding.

Pakistan lost a good chance to turn their people fortune with bad policy adopted by their military dictator generals in past and their

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Sameer Shaikh
Re: xz
by Sameer Shaikh on Dec 20, 2014 10:54 PM
But like Pakistan India too has its own fundamentals and they are called RSS/VHP/Akali, Bajrandi.. MIM says because of these groups, we need to protect our people. India is lucky that Taliban type of mentality is not there but RSS is not nationalist as they say they are enemies of secularism and India is creation of 562 princely states which is united only because of secularism. RSS does not know if they make it one community welfare, it would become another Pakistan. Same goes for minorities parties

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Kanu Singh
Re: Re: xz
by Kanu Singh on Dec 21, 2014 02:57 AM
About the best religion with worst followers remark…

Who decides what the correct interpretation is?

It seems the guy with the biggest gun always got the correct interpretation, and the guy with small gun always gets guaranteed peace of graveyard.

Anyway you can claim whatever, but life survives against Entropy, it takes constructive effort to throw a ba11 towards the sky, but it comes down by itself just by Laws of Physical Nature.

What you see in Pakistan today is evolutionary biology in action, instead of inquiring about Nature and adapting to it for survival, they live in the make believe World of some religion.

So in real World they are being eliminated and turning into mud, first people kill each other with whatever excuse, then micro organism feed on dead bodies and mud goes back to mud.


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Sameer Shaikh
dsa
by Sameer Shaikh on Dec 20, 2014 10:49 PM  | Hide replies

Here is the expert view on Pakistan by Lee Kuan Yew grand master insight on USA, China and world why Pakistan is a failed state and issue based cooperation between India and Pakistan will be difficult.

When asked by in Indian diaspora whether in future we can expect greater cooperation between India and Pakistan on issues like fighting poverty and energy crisis and building platform, he said based on my experience in past it looks difficult.

Lee said few years back in 1990's NAwaz Sharif called him in PAkistan to see what characteristics Pakistan can adopt with Lee advise to make in prospered like Singapore, so Lee agreed and reviewed PAkistan budget and realized Pakistan spend 40% of their budget in military expenditure in addition to aids money and other charities may be to match India's defense and less than 20% budget in education, people welfare, development and other activities fearing that war can happen with India any time. (Yes you heard it right Lee said 40% budget on military on youtube video how lee kuan yew govern India?

Pakistan was unable to educated its children, this is problem. One famous politicians in Pak said main problem in Pakistan is people produce many kids and send their kids to madrasas where radicalization happens since uneducated child cannot apply rational to decide what is good and bad and follows what is told to them. Pakistan lost its way here


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Sameer Shaikh
Re: dsa
by Sameer Shaikh on Dec 20, 2014 10:50 PM
Lee Kuan YEw then said to NAwaz Singapore only natural resource is their own people. Singapore spends heavily to educate its people, train them in english, make them feel global citizen so that they can look after themselves, improve their skills, build up educated workforce which can help build modern industrial economy and make a knowledge based global economy. Lee Kuan YEw advised NAwaz Sharif whether its manufacturing, service, agriculture or tourism nation needs skilled and educated workforce and best people for best jobs without discrimination.

To which Nawaz Sharif said to Singapore legend Lee Kuan Yew to tell Indian leaders to stop war with us. Lee said Indian leaders want to hear from Nawaz Sharif than Lee. Lee said in book Pakistan is obsessed with India. Pakistan people believe if India can do 1947 and Bangladesh, we can do kashmir. For PAkistan, their day starts with India and ends with India activities. If India has corruption, we can to accommodate corruption. If India rises to anti corruption campaign, they see something like that.

Had Pakistan followed any of the Asian tiger (Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong and South Korea) development policies, they would have been an Asian tiger themselves.

This is why I truly want India to grow and prosper. My request to NArendra Modi.. please remove Smriti Irani.. She is useless. An education can shape up child and country destiny. She is completely unfit without disrespecting her

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Lucky B
Re: Re: dsa
by Lucky B on Dec 21, 2014 12:38 PM
How Smirit is unfit?

What work for Singapore does not mean that exactly same template will work for every nation. Every nation has its own civilization, roots, and view to look at things.

Does Development mean only comfort and money where every 5th person is taking psychiatric treatment (US), every 3rd out of hundred is either in jail or on parole (US), then that's not a development.

When world can do Indian Yoga and earn $200 Billion every year without paying any royalty then we have to think that other avenue like Ayurveda, on the name of natural healing will not be stolen by others.

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