Indian constitution is the copy from somewhere mainly from Britain. Look at Chinese constitution which they created for their own needs. Indians have no creativity so we copy it from somewhere. This British structuring is suitable only to counties were people think in a western way. This British structuring is never fit into Indian system but nobody is going to born in India to change it. We are only good at breeding and copying ideas from west
Re: We are good at breeding and copying ideas from west
by peaceman on Aug 26, 2014 06:28 AM
I think you may right.. but i want to say,, our leaders are currepted leaders, so we can't do any thing..
Re: We are good at breeding and copying ideas from west
by R Chakravarti on Aug 26, 2014 10:41 AM
Those who wrote the Constitution, like B R Ambedkar, were not westerners. It was based on the experience of laws then in existence, including those in princely states. It has been amended many times based on subsequent developments. There is no comparison with the Chinese dictatorship.
Re: Re: We are good at breeding and copying ideas from west
by crazedcat on Aug 26, 2014 11:23 AM
The drafting committee headed by Ambedkar thoroughly studied and debated constitutions of UK, USA and other European countries while drafting ours. Their influences are a fact proven from the debating minutes of the committee and biographies of their members.
Re: Re: Re: We are good at breeding and copying ideas from west
by blain paul on Aug 26, 2014 12:44 PM
May be, you didnt understand what I was talking. Small changes we did in our basic constitution is not countable. I am talking about the basic structure. In India, the so called democracy is an utter failure. In a family oriented culture, You cant get ride of correction.People will steal money for their kids. The current chineese system is best for them, beacuse they are also family oriented. People get blind to make money for their kids in any family oriented culture.
Parliament is basically the top most rent seeking institution in the country. Everybody who is there, is there to make money by hook or crook, preferably the latter. Money unlocks everything. Anybody can, and does, buy them, including pakistani and chinese intelligence; the only saving grace is that those countries politicians are equally venal. All that is needed to continue mocking our MPs with zero consequences, is to pay them off some money.
Re: Only
by R Chakravarti on Aug 26, 2014 10:45 AM
There is also a former PM who for many years consulted astrologers, etc. to find out if he could return as PM. I think he has given up now.
In any democracy it is a given that all citizens are equal in the eyes of the law. However in India some are more than equal – especially the politicians and certain people in the bureaucracy? Why is it necessary to get certain ‘permissions’ before the politicians and these bureaucrats can be prosecuted? If there is any case to answer why can’t these accused be prosecuted directly without seeking certain ‘permissions’ – and in most cases permissions are rarely given.
Compare the ‘system’ that exists in the largest democracy vis-is the strongest democracy.
In America two incumbent Presidents were nearly impeached and one had to resign and the other got away by the skin of his teeth. The current American President made a comment against a certain policeman and had to apologise personally to the said policeman and invited him to share beer. (Policemen are considered ‘lowly creatures’ in the Indian political lexicon).
Re: Are we a true democracy?
by adam smith on Aug 25, 2014 02:23 PM
One of the best quotes I’ve come across on democracy is by Alan Moore: 'People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people', but in India it is diametrically opposite!! In India democracy does not stand for ‘of the people, by the people, for the people’. It stands for ‘of the politicians, by the politicians, for the politicians’.
Re: Re: Are we a true democracy?
by Pat Thakur on Aug 25, 2014 03:40 PM
True mate, we're not a true democaracy. Even the fifth column of society (media) has sold itself out & become paid, sleazy media.
Re: Re: Re: Are we a true democracy?
by palanki narayana on Aug 25, 2014 04:05 PM
News papers are known as fourth estate. In the present times all media are part of fourth estate. Fifth column means traitors living in their own country but working for an enemy.
