Re: That 70's Indian Strategy
by sam raj on Mar 26, 2013 07:17 AM
Instead of fixing Srilankan moving towards China which is considered as a national security issue, Indian Govt is pushing the southern tip to disintegrate from India.
Today, there is a growing feeling in Tamil Nadu that Indian Govt is not protecting/supporting Tamils interest, Tamil/Indian fishermen but supporting and protecting Srilankan interest.
First, Indian Govt should stop its appeasement foreign policies at the cost of Indian sovereignty
Re: Congress made India Incompetent in the face of a small Island
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Mar 26, 2013 06:25 AM
To them and many others here it is far more important to national security to please an already Iindian hating anti Hndu 14 million Sinhalese population that is very pro Chinese and Pakistan ,than keeping their 100 million Indian Tamil population happy. Do do not care if they get alienated or antagonised. Taht is not part of national security. Creating hatred angar and aleination ,Humiliating around 100 of your own populationand a very key important state is fine
Re: Congress made India Incompetent in the face of a small Island
by sam raj on Mar 26, 2013 07:06 AM
There is a myth or belief that Sinhalese are migrants from "West Bengal", so there is a remote support extended from Indian President as well as Mamtha
It is so funny, still some Indians are comparing Kashmir with the plight of Tamils in Sri Lanka. If the Sri Lankan Tamils have their own state like Kashmir to protect and safeguard their language, religion and culture from the Sinhala Buddhist hegemony, you won't hear any noise from Tamil Nadu. The state of Kashmir has special powers and rights in the Indian union. Indian government cannot and will not settle the non Kashmiri Indians in Kashmir valley to make the Kashmiris minority in their own state. But the historic habitat of the Tamils of Sri Lanka is being militarized by the mono ethnic Sinhala army. The Sri Lankan government is settling the ethnic Sinhalese in Tamils areas to make the Tamils in their own home and villages. This type of social engineering is not happening in Kashmir.
Re: Sri Lanka is not Kashmir
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Mar 26, 2013 06:30 AM
Yes many of them cheer the Hndu hating Sinhalese who have destroyed more than 500 Hindu temples in Eelam and built Buddah statues whilst statign DMK is anti Hindu
The problem with India today is that most Indians don't understand the importance of national security, they don't understand the delicate balance between regionalism and federalism and where to draw the lines.
The Tamils in Sri Lanka are Sri Lankan citizens.. PERIOD. If they have a problem in Sri Lanka, let them deal with it their way. The Tamils in Tamilnadu have their own problems they should deal with like basic water supply, corruption etc. There is a certain limit to worrying about Tamils in a totally different country.
Think about this... There is a significant Tamil population in Singapor who SETTLED in Singapore a long time back. If tomorrow the the Tamils and Non-Tamils clash in Singapore, should India go about cutting down the bilateral ties with Singapoor? Similarly, there is significant Sikh population in Canada, there is significant Gujarati and Andhra population in US, there are punjabis in all of Europe. All these people CHOOSE to go to these places and SETTLE there and become citizens there. The Indian govt can not go about worrying about each ethicinic group originating from India and living in GodKnowsWhatCountry. How far do we want to go about protecting these groups..?
The best solution is to worry about the problems we have in our country and deal with them. India will be better off if DMK and AIADMK worry about Tamils in Tamil Nadu and do something to improve their lives.
Re: We need to draw the lines...
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Mar 26, 2013 06:22 AM
Yuo had a another story fo r Bangladesh and if it was an interna matter why is India constantly interfering. First created the LTTE and many other militant groups and foisted them on the Tamil population ,then snet the IPKF fo creatae more chaos of reape looing and killing. After than started to demonise the Eelam Tamils and became very pro Sinhalese and still defending and prtoecting the genocidal Sinhalese. Even the Sinhalese do not like or trust yuo Indians but are only using you. So the Sinhalese and appeasing them and aiding and abettign them to commit genocide is only part of the National security and that is far mroe important thant the feelings and sentiments of the 90 million Indian Tamils. Whom are trying to fool with your weak silly arguments to jsutify the gencoide. Since when is it part of national security to aid and abett genocide in a neighbourign land especially alieanation and antagonaing aroudn 100 million Indian Tamils to please arodn 14million Sinhalese who alrady do not like Indians or Hindus? S
Re: Re: We need to draw the lines...
by Common Sense on Mar 26, 2013 06:32 AM
SivaSankaran Sarma: Please read my comment again and you will realize that NOWHERE did I mention the National Security means aiding genocide in Sri Lanka. You seem to be imagining things here...
All I am saying is that India should not interfear in other countries internal matters. That includes staying away from creating problems for neighbors as well as staying away from interfearing in their problems. Let them deal with their internal problems and we will be much better off if we deal with our internal problems.
Re: Re: Re: Re: We need to draw the lines...
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Mar 26, 2013 06:51 AM
and yuor genocidal agenda. Interfere when North Indians are affected liek in Bangladesh Fiji or Australia/Canada.I totally understand what you state, SO why did yor apineless Tamil hating establishment interfere and water down the tough USA resolution again to make it toothless and defend the Sinhalese?
Re: Re: Re: We need to draw the lines...
by sam raj on Mar 26, 2013 07:00 AM
Actually,there is no common sense in your response. First, India should protect its interest. India becomes vulnerable and its security is at stake if we allow Chinese domination at our neighbors.
Today, Instead of using political pressure on our neighbors who are moving/drifting against India's interest, our impotent Govt is using appeasement foreign policy which gives more option for our neighbors to exploit India at the cost of India's interest.
Today, our Govt is not able to question/stop Srilanka for their killings of 500 fishermen because of our appeasement foreign policies.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: We need to draw the lines...
by Common Sense on Mar 26, 2013 08:47 PM
Sam Raj: If the Indian fishermen are being killed, I would expect a strong response from Indian Govt. I am not deniying that anywhere. If the Indian govt is not doing what they are supposed to do to protect their own citizens, they definitely are impotent as you said. My debate is that Indian Govt should protect Indian Citizens and stop worrying about the Tamils in Sri Lanka. The Tamils in Sri Lanka are not Indians. It is a different country. If we need to worry about any thing in Sri Lanka, it should be the entry of Chinese. Indian should have built the ports in Sri Lanka and the reason it did not happen is because of the Sri Lankan Tamil issue. The Indians approach is not focused - We worry about Tamils and human rights and we worry about Sri Lanka getting close to Pak and China. At some point we need to set out prioties straight and focus on one thing at a time. What we see at the end of the day is the Chinese built the ports in Sri Lanka and the Tamils got killed. India lost on both the fronts. That is what happend when a country looses focus. I hope you guys understand what I am trying to say here.
Re: present sri lanka is failure of India's external affiars poli
by Wood Raider on Mar 26, 2013 05:40 AM
We all know this is one of India's 70's strategy to deal with a budding enemy.
Sonia and Rahul eliminated this historic strategy.
Re: present sri lanka is failure of India's external affiars poli
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Mar 26, 2013 06:02 AM
The Sinhalese and Sri Lanka hae always been pro China and Pro Pakistan. Just look at history.They always openly took to side of China and Pakstan against India in all wars. They are skillfully using the China card to get a meek spineless largely anti Tamil establishment to get what they want. The total structural genocide of the anceitn indegenous Eelam Tamil nation. Certain powerfull elements and sections and communities in India even in Tamil nadu for some selfish reason known to them are leading the Indians on a very pro Sinhalese parth with lotf of lies and misinformation. As per many western media it was due to India's insistence that the very stron UN resolution has been diltued again to a tootless resolution against the racist worcriminal genocidal Sri Lankan government. It is not China or Oakistan but India behind all this mess. What have the Sinhalese doen after this toothless resolution ? They have sent more Sinhalese colnist to settle in illegally aquired Tamil lands in Trincomalee to change the demography.
Re: Re: present sri lanka is failure of India's external affiars
by SivaSankaran Sarma on Mar 26, 2013 06:06 AM
The Eelam Tamils are not from India but are the orgonal people of the land. The Sinhalese may now be the majority but their DNA and hsitory proves that they are largely descended from immigrants from India. largely from Tamil nadu and then from the Bengal region. Sinhelese gentic makeup is 70% DNA in common with Indian Tamils and 25% DNA in common with Bengalis and 5% DNA in comon with the indigenous Veddahs. The Sinhalese langauge is a mixture of Tamil( 40% ) and the rest Sanskrit and Pali that came to the island with Buddhism. Sanskrit and Pali are not navite to the region or the island. Only Tamil or the anceint semi Tami Elu dialect is. People shoudl use common sense.
Re: present sri lanka is failure of India's external affiars poli
by indianguru on Mar 27, 2013 04:14 AM
India is hopeless....making enemies everywhere
It is Srilanka internal issue.. that India should not interfere... If the Indian in Srilanka have trouble they can always come back. Like any other country. We need a friendly neighbours .. not enemies. Hope people to TN will understand this.
Re: Srilanka Internal issue
by Tamil on Mar 27, 2013 10:07 AM
If it is internal issue, Then Why did Rajiv sent Indian army there ? .The International community cannot be silent when state kills minorities and conduct human genocide. It is the the duty of every human being to condemn that.
The Indians babus are peeing in their pants when they hear china. That's why they don't even want to question the killings of their own citizens in the mide sea by the neighboring Navy.
Re: India vs. China
by Wood Raider on Mar 26, 2013 05:33 AM
I'm not supporting terror. Being an Indian and Looking back historically and strategically,
LTTE shouldnt have been eliminated.
at least India should have kept distance from srilankan problems.
