On a recent trip to U.S an american commoner asked me rather crudely what the "F---" is "F---wa", these are exactly his words and I told him after correcting him it is FATWA and not what he crudely uttered. Here's my analogy /reply to him. FATWA is a written order issued by a religious head to protect his interpretation of Islamic faith and is similar to an order/ FATWA issued by American President to drone so called enemies of state to protect his perception of democracy, from any transgressions. Both are extreme forms of implementing one's understanding of a subject on others. Guess I was right?
Re: fatwa
by KK on Feb 07, 2013 12:00 AM
its a laughable comment you are absoultly wrong. There are many fatwas issued by saudi clerics which the saudi govt also nevertakes into consderation it is upto the followers to accept it not.
Well Done Girls........ Appreciate Your Decision ... Live Well & Be Happy...... We are proud of your decision...... You have kept your sanity and proved that you love your faith than everything else. Music is worthless in front of culture unity.
Re: Well Done
by Champak on Feb 06, 2013 06:55 PM
They have quit of thre own. id they want to continue its upto them but keep our kashmiriyat intact. hatepreachers will always writeabusive stuff.
Re: Re: Well Done
by Jai Babu on Feb 07, 2013 01:34 AM
What Kashmiriyat? "Kashmiriyat" died the day when the Pandits were ethnic cleansed from Kashmir because of their faith. The civilized and egalitarian essence of Kashmir's Sufi Is1am has been decimated by the spread of rabid of WahabiDeobandiSalafi ideologies. Radical clerics hark back to an insular, radical and puritanical faith, disowning all KASHMIRI traditions & cultural norms that do not conform to the narrow confines of what is allowed as per Shuriya & Sunnet. The radical ulema therefore claim the divine right to regulate the social & behavioral standards acceptable as per their version of Islam and many of them want to ban music, movies, painting, sculpture, co-education, employment for girls, etc. The fatwa against the girls' rock band by the Grand Mufti is a logically expected step in this direction and the sad fact is that it has widespread support.
The cold hard fact is that Kashmir is in the grip of a WahabiDeobandiSalafi inspired Is1amist insurrection! Even the Sufis are considered heretics! Welcome to the Is1amist paradize of Kashmir.
Re: Well Done
by bijal goswami on Feb 06, 2013 06:56 PM
molla u are a coward, going by your formula, even if your own children had incredible talent it would be a waste to have u as their father. shame on u.
Mohommad Rafi, Talat Mehmood, Ghulam Ali, Junoon, Salma Agha, Naushad, the list can go on and on...what about them? What was Mufti's problem? My gut feeling is, this is more to prevent percolation of popular Indian culture (or may be he preceivs it as cultural invasion) that could douse the flame of separatism that he wants alive and well in all current and future generation of Kashmiris.
Re: Mufti has hidden agenda in invoking the religion.
by Jai Babu on Feb 06, 2013 05:42 PM
It is an act of moral cowardice to not resist the spread of fundamentalism & puritan ideologies being propagated by the fringe elements!
True Secularism means no special privileges, no appeasement, no oppression & no discrimination on the basis of religion! The State & Religion are separate. Do we have such SECULARISM in India today?
When a OMG could be made, what is wrong in releasing Viswaroopam? Do they want all Pakis, Afghanis or Al Qaeda & Talibanis to be portrayed as saints and apostles of non-violence? Similarly a rock band of young Mus1im women poses no threat to any religion though the mullas have gone berserk over it. A fashion show or a particular apparel worn by a model cannot be a threat to Hinduism or our "moral" values. Or the world and good qualities of Indian society will not come crashing down if a woman sips a beer or goes out with a male friend or wears jeans.
And people who have funny beliefs, should not mind their beliefs being laughed at or criticized. Why do these puritans & fanatics say that their community feelings "get hurt" so easily? If u do not like a movie or television show, don't see it. If u don't like a particular type of dress, don't wear it. If u don't like rock music, don't listen to it. Simple is it not?
Re: Re: Mufti has hidden agenda in invoking the religion.
by Power Cut on Feb 06, 2013 05:43 PM
Indian constipation itself is NOT secular when it permits MuslimPersonalLaws. What can be expected of Indians when the Indian constipation itself is communal?
It is high time the word secular is removed from the Indian constipation and set the record straight.
Re: Re: Re: Mufti has hidden agenda in invoking the religion.
by Power Cut on Feb 06, 2013 05:45 PM
A PIL has to be lodged in the SupremeCourt to knock out the word secular from the Indian constipation.
If the SupremeCourt rejects the PIL, another PIL should be lodged against the SupremeCourt itself for not following it's own tenet of SatyamevaJayate!!
Re: Mufti has hidden agenda in invoking the religion.
by Power Cut on Feb 06, 2013 05:42 PM
The real culturalInvasion aka culturalTerrorism has been fromIslam INTO India and not the other way around!!
Re: MEDIA AND HINDUTVA BRGADE HAD JOINED HANDS
by P Sameer on Feb 06, 2013 05:33 PM
see what happened after the delhi rape case. see the work of media daily news about rape, the unintentionally encouraged rapes across the country.
Re: Re: MEDIA AND HINDUTVA BRGADE HAD JOINED HANDS
by Power Cut on Feb 06, 2013 05:35 PM
What has that got anything to do with theMullahs banning a rockband?
Re: Re: MEDIA AND HINDUTVA BRGADE HAD JOINED HANDS
by Jai Babu on Feb 06, 2013 05:36 PM
Yeah, we know how the mullas react when "Is1am" supposedly faces danger and why they issue FARTWAS! Do not nitpick, but accept the truth
Re: Re: Re: MEDIA AND HINDUTVA BRGADE HAD JOINED HANDS
by P Sameer on Feb 06, 2013 05:57 PM
power cut jai babu you people are pretty well in discussing mullahsand1slam topics. what happened after the coverage by media to delhi rape victim did rapes stopped all over india no now donot startingthegovt.
Re: Re: Re: Re: MEDIA AND HINDUTVA BRGADE HAD JOINED HANDS
by Jai Babu on Feb 06, 2013 06:09 PM
I am not talking only about "mullas or Is1am". See how my post just above this post mentions the VHP agitation against the fashion show also.
Re: Everybody fears for the life..
by Jai Babu on Feb 06, 2013 05:22 PM
Sanctimonious pr1cks blame the media for their own moral cowardice. Thank the media that the girls are safe, Else.... If the media had kept mum and those girls would have been killed by the Is1amist brothers. Just blaming the media will not do. The idiotic Mufti and all sundry clerics were already claiming that the girls performing on stage was a threat to Is1am.
Remember how the media came to the rescue of the Palghar girls who were hounded by the local police & some louts from the Sena?
Re: Re: Everybody fears for the life..
by Power Cut on Feb 06, 2013 05:25 PM
According to the media bashers, these girls would have become world-famous rockstars beating even the likes of Metallica IF the media kept it EyesWideShut!!
Afterall, can anyone give as much freedom as the religion of eternalPeace?
Re: Re: Everybody fears for the life..
by Jai Babu on Feb 06, 2013 05:26 PM
Those who profess their faith most loudly and intimidate others are the biggest threat to society.
Any Religion interested only in its prestige and success, in its institutions and rituals and conformity, is worse than slavery! It is not disbelief that is dangerous to the world, it is Blind Faith!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Everybody fears for the life..
by Power Cut on Feb 06, 2013 05:31 PM
Hindutva is a bullwark against the IslamicNation and no wonder, you are pissedOff by it!!!
Re: Re: Everybody fears for the life..
by P Sameer on Feb 06, 2013 05:29 PM
threat islam see jai babu why are twisting words and overblowing the fatwa. Its just a fatwa. The girls want they can perform.
Re: Re: Re: Everybody fears for the life..
by Power Cut on Feb 06, 2013 05:31 PM
Even AyatollahKhomeini issued "just" aFatwa aka simply an "opinion" on Rushdie!
Don't we all know how harmless these "opinions" are?!!
Re: Re: Re: Everybody fears for the life..
by Jai Babu on Feb 06, 2013 05:38 PM
Can the girls "perform"? Don't we know how mobs work, when incited by the clerics? Don't be a hypocrite!
Re: Kashmir
by arungopal agarwal on Feb 06, 2013 05:18 PM
Indian forces are required only for border with PAK/LOC, they are called to protect Kashmiris only, but political issue is created.
Re: in pak someone like this mufti told girls cannot
by P Sameer on Feb 06, 2013 05:22 PM
The girls were forced to leave the band because of the Media and phobic people got attention and gave to much publicity
Re: Re: in pak someone like this mufti told girls cannot
by Power Cut on Feb 06, 2013 05:24 PM
If not for the media, they would have become a world-famous rockband?!!
Kashmiris are to understand whether they want to live in peace and harmoney or in isolation, none of the Indian soldier is interested to go and provide secutity, security is provided because few seperaterists does not maintain peace and harmoney else only Kashmiri Police Force is enough except borders.
