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mohd uddin
Ummah
by mohd uddin on Aug 18, 2013 11:00 PM  | Hide replies

The king of KSA has just labelled the protestors as terorrists, while Qatar has condemned the crack-down. This period of turmoil is going to be most defining part of history for the Musl1ms as a community.
History will judge who supported the atrocities for sake of power.

MB and army should climb down from their positions and negotiate for peace asap - while justice can wait; and only then Egyptians will be able to recover

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Siv
Re: Ummah
by Siv on Aug 19, 2013 06:43 AM
mohd

You have tried to reach me. And, I am available for serious discussions if you wish, but let me make a couple of points very clear. First, I have a very short fuse for double standards so I am willing to discuss if you are honest and are willing to listen with an open mind. Playing games will not work. And, I am not going to mince words.

Second, I love every human being irrespective of who it is, including myself. But I have no tolerance for vi0lence.

I believe that himsa (vi0lence) should be eliminated at all cost. And, I mean at all cost.

I am very much a Hindoo in my thoughts and I live a Hindoo life but I respects all other lines of thoughts as long as the people are not pushy and refrain from pushing the superiority of their thoughts on me. I have learnt from many. My closest friend (more like brother) is a Jeuish gentleman. I have many chreestian friends though most of them don't practise. One of the greatest personality I admire is jeesus of nazareth. I am very interested in the teachings of Daoism (Taoism). I admire the native American spirituality. I have some exposure to shamanism and I have learnt a lot from it.

Though I am completely disillusioned with eeslam, the more I read it the more I am baffled. But, that is ok. What is not ok is what the followers of this line do to others.

If you are still willing, I am a game for discussion on any topic you wish.

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Siv
Re: Ummah
by Siv on Aug 19, 2013 06:43 AM

mohd

You have tried to reach me. And, I am available for serious discussions if you wish, but let me make a couple of points very clear. First, I have a very short fuse for double standards so I am willing to discuss if you are honest and are willing to listen with an open mind. Playing games will not work. And, I am not going to mince words.

Second, I love every human being irrespective of who it is, including myself. But I have no tolerance for vi0lence.

I believe that himsa (vi0lence) should be eliminated at all cost. And, I mean at all cost.

I am very much a Hindoo in my thoughts and I live a Hindoo life but I respects all other lines of thoughts as long as the people are not pushy and refrain from pushing the superiority of their thoughts on me. I have learnt from many. My closest friend (more like brother) is a Jeuish gentleman. I have many chreestian friends though most of them don't practise. One of the greatest personality I admire is jeesus of nazareth. I am very interested in the teachings of Daoism (Taoism). I admire the native American spirituality. I have some exposure to shamanism and I have learnt a lot from it.

Though I am completely disillusioned with eeslam, the more I read it the more I am baffled. But, that is ok. What is not ok is what the followers of this line do to others.

If you are still willing, I am a game for discussion on any topic you wish.

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mohd uddin
Re: Re: Ummah
by mohd uddin on Aug 19, 2013 02:10 PM
Greetings!

I completely agree with you when u say "what is not ok is what the followers do to others" - only thing i want to add is - NOT ALL the followers!

Its good to know that u have keen interest in different faiths and that you are ready to learn with an open_mind.

God_willing, we will discuss our differences.

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Siv
Re: Re: Re: Ummah
by Siv on Aug 20, 2013 10:43 AM

I am ready when you are. But, please be warned that I am usually very direct.

Somehow I do sense honesty and love deep within you. Let us all work together and make this world a decent place to live for ourselves and our children.

Amen!


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mohd uddin
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ummah
by mohd uddin on Aug 20, 2013 11:50 AM
Amen!

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Champak
Re: Re: Tragic!
by Champak on Aug 18, 2013 01:33 PM
Jai same will be the situation when Fascists gain power in INDIA.
what India faced in the 1980s after the Shah Bano case or what happened in Bangladesh in the 1990s or what is happening in Turkey since 2006


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Siv
Re: Re: Re: Tragic!
by Siv on Aug 20, 2013 10:38 AM

Aren't fascists in power in India? What is "High command"? A country with majority Hind00s has a nonH "High command", a nonH PM, a nonH FM, a nonH DM and all the major advisers of the "Hingh Command" are nonH. Won't you say it is a fascist dictatorship. Whereas the Egyptian military leadership is patriotic. They are making these sacrifices for the sake of the nation which is nothing but majority of its citizens.

And, what do the rulers of India do for the nation? Loot it?

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KRISHNAMURTHY V
Will any Indian politician dare?
by KRISHNAMURTHY V on Aug 18, 2013 05:09 AM  | Hide replies

Will any Indian politician dare to do this in India? Contrast this act in Egypt with the act of the Mulayam singh Yadav government in UP which suspended an IAS officer for ordering the demolition of a wall of a mosque for public interest. As long as we have the 'pseudo-seculars' like Mulayam Singh & Co, we are bound to suffer; so are the minorities who have not realised upto now that these parties are only after their vote bank.

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Venkat
Re: Re: Will any Indian politician dare?
by Venkat on Aug 18, 2013 11:39 AM
All the illegal places of worship shall be razed for public convenience.

Mohd uddin, please prove your secular credentials in stating to remove the illegal places of worship all across the country.

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mohd uddin
Re: Re: Re: Will any Indian politician dare?
by mohd uddin on Aug 18, 2013 01:13 PM
Dear Venkat! Present day political leaders, irrespective of religion, consider themselves above the law, and under their sponsorship most of these illegal constructions takes place.
Law should be above any influences.

Yes iam with u; let all the illegal constructions be removed/shifted.

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Siv
Re: Re: Re: Re: Will any Indian politician dare?
by Siv on Aug 19, 2013 06:05 AM
bible says "as you sow, so shall you reap". And, here are some examples:

Why is there so much violence in puke_estan?

Why is there so much violence in afganistan?

Why is there so much violence in Egypt?

Why is there so much violence in Burma?

Why is there so much violence in Nigeria?

Why is there so much violence in Sudan?

Why is there so much violence in Libya?

Why is there so much violence in Iraq?

Why is there so much violence in Libya?

Why is there so much violence in Indonesia?

Why is there so much violence in Thailand?

Why is there so much violence in Tunisia?

Why is there so much violence in Algeria?

Why is there so much violence in Labanon?

Is there a common cause? It should be rectified. And, that is what the military is doing in Egypt. Instead of doing more of the same you as a human being should be thankful to them.

Is it applicable to India as well? Will India become like these countries in due course of time? Is it already on its way? Can it be rectified? Will congress do anything to stop it?

Can India get rid of teerrorism from its soil like Israel and the USA have done? Or, is Indian's problem already beyond control? If solvable, who can do it?

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