This a lesson to learn specially for Indian politician if religious places are misused for reason beyond they are meant for, u should not play politics but crack hard on this things ,as country stand first not your dirt political gimmicks
Re: Forces storm mosque
by mohd uddin on Aug 18, 2013 09:12 AM
Exactly! Let the GOI take military help in demolishing an illegal place of worship abutting historic Charminar. :)
Re: Forces storm mosque
by Siv on Aug 18, 2013 12:27 AM
Indian military is very respectful of mosques and churches. Indian government will never allow this to happen in India.
Re: Re: Forces storm mosque
by mohd uddin on Aug 18, 2013 09:19 AM
Siv! Thats what i keep saying - you have incomplete info. If what u say was correct, then the illegal place of worship abutting Charminar would have been removed, and the historic Babri masjid would have been saved! Cheers
Re: Re: Re: Forces storm mosque
by Siv on Aug 18, 2013 10:28 PM
mohd, I really have difficulty understanding your pushto. But, it is clear that you don't want to look at the obvious facts.
As usual, you want to use the illogical logic indoctrinated into you to make yourself look like an innocent victim.
The reality is faar from it. All that one needs is to see what is happening anywhere in the world be it Burma, Thailand, Phillipine, India, Western Europe, Russia or .... It is the same story everywhere. Your twisting of facts to suit your manual does not really help.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Forces storm mosque
by mohd uddin on Aug 18, 2013 10:50 PM
Siv! for a change, why not talk to the point? You, wrote something on the 3 places of worship - and i responded exactly to that point. I hope now u get the "pushto"!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Forces storm mosque
by mohd uddin on Aug 19, 2013 01:55 PM
Siv! if u r one of grammar nazis, then i concede defeat, as i know the limitations of my madrasa english!
Regarding the subject matter, first i would like to know if u heard/read anything regd Charminar - the 400 yr old historic structure.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Forces storm mosque
by Siv on Aug 19, 2013 06:18 AM
I don't want to be too critical, but here is another one:
"Siv! Thats what i keep saying - you have incomplete info. If what u say was correct, then the illegal place of worship abutting Charminar would have been removed, and the historic Babri masjid would have been saved! Cheers"
What does it mean/ I really don't understand what you are trying to say. May be it is not pushto, may be it is urdu. As far as I am concerned same difference.
The muslim brotherhood is trying to escalate the violence and gain upper hand, even if it means to get killed their men in 1000's . For Muslim Brotherhood its do or die now.
The muslim brotherhood is trying to escalate the violence and gain upper hand, even if it means to get killed their men in 1000's . For Muslim Brotherhood its do or die now.
Re: Re: Any takers?
by Jai Babu on Aug 18, 2013 01:07 AM
Rajendra- There is no separate ethnic group or species called Mus1ims. Mus1ims are not the problem at all. They are common people with the same hopes, aspirations, needs, dreams, prejudices, likes, dislikes, etc as any other human being. It is the poison of Radical Is1am which insists on complete supplication to religion, dress codes, social norms, etc above any other human and preaches hate against non-Mus1ims which is the real enemy!
Re: Re: Re: Any takers?
by Siv on Aug 19, 2013 06:53 AM
Jai, I could not agree more with you that moslems are people like any other people and should be respected.
Though I disagree with you that there are radical moslems and others. It is a topic which needs more time and space to discuss.
But, the best way to understand this ideology of domination over others is to read kuran and haddit.
It is not a coincidence that continuous violence has occurred for the last 1300 years in region after region. Look at all those nations and their history. It will change you for ever.
What happened to all the chreestians of Syria, hindoos of pukestan, hindoo/buddist of afgaanistan, jews and chreeestians of Turky and on and on it goes,
Do you honestly believe that teerrorsim in India can survive even for ONE day without an elaborate network of sympathizers?
Read their posts on the net and see the hidden agenda behind it. Most of them are one track minded and don't even realize how "others" are using them.
As i am nor supptoer of MB OR militiry but i see some similarity in morsi and modi 1) morsi wants islamization of egypt no place for minority same as our modi. 2)morsi is backed by Muslim brotherhood a strict islamic idology as same for modi RSS a strict Hindu idology. 3)Both take the same path of democracy to dictate the people.
Re: MORSI VS MODI
by Siv on Aug 19, 2013 06:50 AM
of-course there are differences. But, read your list carefully and see your bias or deception - taqyia at its best. The real differences are much more obvious:
- Morsi has made Egypt into an extremely violent country like many others(see the list above), Sri Modiji has transformed Gujarat into an advanced economy. - During Morsi's reign minorities were systematically persecuted in Egypt, while Sri Modiji eliminated perennial communal riots from Gujarat. - Morsi collapsed Egypt economy in one year while Sri Modiji's Gujarat prospered under his leadership. - Morsi is shunned by all civilized nations while Sri Modiji has just been invited to address parliaments in UK and Australia - Morsi begged IMF for the survival of Egypt while Gujarat is one of the most advances states in India which requires no external support - Mosri is a man of violence, Sri Modiji is a man of peace - Morsi believes in a religion which believes in ummah and eliminations of kafirs, Sri Modiji is Hindoo and believes in all inclusiveness. - Morsi encouraged his followers to go into steets and fight, Sri Modiji led his people to prosperity through hard work. - Morsi radicalized a peaceful nation, Sri Modiji led his state to become a great business centre. - Morsi was not received in any civilized world with great honor, while Sri Modji was given state-head honor when he was was invited to China while he was a cm of an Indian province only.
Do you want to know more? Start reading international news.
Re: MORSI VS MODI
by Siv on Aug 19, 2013 06:51 AM
bible says "as you sow, so shall you reap". And, here are some examples:
Why is there so much violence in puke_estan?
Why is there so much violence in afganistan?
Why is there so much violence in Egypt?
Why is there so much violence in Burma?
Why is there so much violence in Nigeria?
Why is there so much violence in Sudan?
Why is there so much violence in Libya?
Why is there so much violence in Iraq?
Why is there so much violence in Libya?
Why is there so much violence in Indonesia?
Why is there so much violence in Thailand?
Why is there so much violence in Tunisia?
Why is there so much violence in Algeria?
Why is there so much violence in Labanon?
Is there a common cause? It should be rectified. And, that is what the military is doing in Egypt. Instead of doing more of the same you as a human being should be thankful to them.
Though i am not a supporter of muslim brotherhood due to its religious identity, i think its supporters should be congratulated for coming out in large number to protest military rule and uphold democracy in Egypt. US should immediately stop all aid to Egypt to punish this military regime which killed 638 demonstrators on Wednesday.
Re: Congratulations
by Siv on Aug 19, 2013 06:49 AM
of-course! even after so much violence, you still advocate violence. But, then if someone acts in self-defense you start to quote sickularism and humanity.
If one acts inhuman then one should be treated as inhuman. I am very encouraged by the patriotic egyptian military the way they are handling this problem of jihad and taqyia.
Though I am sad at the loss of human life even for those who are soooo vi0lent. But, looks like they (millitary) had no choice whatsoever. They tries to resolve the issue peacefully but it did not work.
Sometimes I wish that Indian military should take matters in their own hands to clean up India of all traitors and save the nation.
But, it looks like in India it will be done by a patriotic force similar to rss.
