Re: advice
by Dhananjay Mathur on Oct 10, 2012 04:30 PM
What are you saving for? Something specific, or is it just the scare of not having enough? The answer to the question may tell you if you are doing right or wrong- Basically with your lifestyle, you will always have enough of money. You need to decide if you also want some more of fun.:)
Re: advice
by theIndian on Oct 10, 2012 04:30 PM
Dear friends i forget say a important FACT, I had worked in a sugar factory in AP that is 100KM from Baganore and only 30 km from Karnataka borders. that sugar factory used get surgar cane from mandya district which 250 KM away and for 100 to 150 Lesser cost and payment was made in 3 - 4 installments.
This is pitty situation of farmers in K there is no market develped inside K, what they will do with water for 3 harvest season.
Timely rainfall not in Tamil nadu but in Karnataka only.But Karnataka still continues to impound water.300 acres submreged in Karnataka near KRS dam not near mettur in Tamil Nadu Several thousand acres paddy cultivation in Tamil Nadu's delta region has become a question mark due to the political game plans of the Karnataka politicians.
Re: cauvery issue
by Rajesh on Oct 10, 2012 04:41 PM
Mr. Varadharajan, please ascertain the facts properly and then speak in a forum. Excess rain in Karnataka after KRS dam will automatically flow to TN as there is no stopage for that water. We have scarcity of rainfal for about 48% this year than normal rainfal. How can you believe that we can drain our dams and leave our people thirsty for water but feed your crops every year. There is no problem if there is average rainfal, but in distress, you have to share the distress. Once water is flown down the drain to TN it cannot flow back to our reservoirs. It is not political game from Karnataka but instead it is political games from your Chief Minister Amma Jayalalitha, who, being born in Mandya, where Cauvery flows, is trying to get mileage out of water from Karnataka. If you have 100 Rs with you n ur father tells you to share 50 rs. with your brother, you would agree. But if you have 10 Rs. and your father tells you to give your brother 50 Rs. how can you give. It is the same way. Please dont add fuel into fire. As I said earlier, ascertain the facts properly and then speak in a forum and not just show absolute disregard to the point of view of another State people.
Re: Re: cauvery issue
by ROOPESH KUMAR on Oct 10, 2012 04:48 PM
excellent rajesh, even though i am from TN, I Respect your views. first we need to accertain the facts and then comment
Re: Re: Re: cauvery issue
by shalini gopinath on Nov 08, 2012 08:07 AM
hi roopesh kumar pl send your mobile number for me.how are you,good morning.cauvery decisionn take for court,pl wait.
Re: Re: cauvery issue
by Balan Iyer on Oct 10, 2012 04:51 PM
Drought situation due to rain fall scarcity or heavy floodi ng due to excessive rainfall amounts to nothing but poor water management by all the Governments.Hence nothing is gained by pointing fingers at each other.
Re: Re: cauvery issue
by NirbhayAkash on Oct 10, 2012 04:54 PM
e.g. At home, If your brother don't have water to drink, when u have plenty of water in your room, do you share your water with your own brother? why can't you people can not think that way?
Re: Re: cauvery issue
by Rajesh on Oct 10, 2012 04:58 PM
Would just like to add, the 48% shortage of rainfall I have spoken about is in the Cauvery delta region and not the whole of Karnataka. TThis, you caOver all deficit of rainfall in Karnataka this year around is around 18% i.e., whole of Karnataka. As we cant join all our rivers as we share our rivers with our neighbouring states and when ever we try to raise the heights of our dams or build canals or restore some ponds or construct new ponds so that agirucluturists in our State can save water for themselves and which would eventually help our neighbouring states i.e., AP, Goa, Puducherry and Tamil Nadu, our neighbours start filing applications before Central Government and stopping these constructions. If we have excess water in Krishna, we cannot send it to Mysore or Mandya or to any other dams as this will be objected by one or the other neighbour. So, in times of distress, our neighbours have to share the problems as much as we here face. We are not here to argue or true our points correct. We are all Indians first and then comes our language or state barriers. First be human. First we should stop these dirty politicians playing game. Have you visited any villages in TM and asked the farmers there whether they have not received the water this year. I am sure, none of us here have. Then why just post a comment just for sake of it. Please keep in mind, we the people who are posting our views in this forum are literates and should not make statements which would fuel tension.
Re: Re: cauvery issue
by rnages waran on Oct 10, 2012 05:00 PM
Reply dear Rajesh It is true that Rain fall less in Karnataka as well as in Tamil Nadu. I had recent tour to Cavery belt so called Green Belt. Today it is not at all Green totally dry No cultivation happening. I Know Mandya which is again Green Belt this year i did not seen. on Comparing Lakhs Hect cultivated then In tamil nadu it will more times than Karantaka. I Agree with politics played by tamil Nadu & which was started in 1972 by Congress chief minister / Central Indra gandhi not venture the agreement Between 2 stated which was existed till 1972 or 71 between Mysore Maharaja and Madras state. THis tool was used by congress pull tamilian back foot by Indra gandhi( mainly DMK karna) THough I am tamil But i How cursal water for the both state. What is required Avoid de froseting in western Guards. TOday water is not there tamil nadu but tomorrow water wonot be Karnataka
Re: Re: Re: cauvery issue
by Rajesh on Oct 10, 2012 05:13 PM
Waran, I respect your views. But, I would like to add, the agreement which you are talking, was signed in the pre-independence period between royals. Please bare in mind, Tamil Nadu was occupied by Britishers and they favoured TN over Karnataka, which was ruled by Maharajas till independence. As you have posted, lakhs of hectares of land in TN is made agricultural whereas we in Karnataka, had no independence to plow our lands. We were not allowed to make any extra land as agricultural land without the Britisher's permission. The supposed fact you are stating that there is no green in Mandya is not totally correct as we do one crop per year (as it was permitted to be done before Independence) and we cant get extra water for our crops. We are not complaining that. The situation now arisen is because of scarcity of rain, which is a fact and the shortfall is calculated not by Karnataka Government but a Central Team which is placed in both Karnataka and Tamil Nadu. If there is sufficient rainfall or may be even average, no one in Cauvery region would complain from releasing water to TN but when we have no water and one of our dams Kabini which is also constructed above KRS is almost empty and only 2 TMC is left, would be expect us to totally empty our reservoir just because u want a second crop when we cant grow our one crop due tos scarcity of water. More over, the water in KRS is also for drinking water for Bangalore, Mandya, Mysore and out of the 40 TMC of water which can
Re: Re: Re: Re: cauvery issue
by Rajesh on Oct 10, 2012 05:16 PM
be stored in KRS, when full, we need around 19 TMS alone for drinking water till next year April. We dont get any water for drinking other than this source.
Re: Re: cauvery issue
by Indian bhai on Oct 10, 2012 05:12 PM
So u agree 50 / 50 shares. That what dear Tamil Nadu water and when not shared, tn approached. If Karnataka cm tels let us share 50/50,every would love it.
Re: Re: cauvery issue
by Ethicsoft Ipoc on Oct 10, 2012 05:52 PM
You are arquements are correct with reference to money. Could you please update the amount of water in each of the cauvery basin reservoir? If you answer truthfully, you will accept TN's legitimate claims.
Re: cauvery issue
by Naveen Surendra on Oct 10, 2012 04:46 PM
This happened yesterday, because of 145mm rain the highest un last 2 dicades in a single day. for your kind information we can have only this standing crop till next july and you want deny that . whwre shall we go for food grains and fodder for animal stock or will it be compensated
Our brothers in Karnataka believes that Cauvery belongs to them since it is originated there. But that is not the fact. The Nile river is shared by half a dozen countries, India could not stop Sindh flowing in to Pakistan and Ganga flowing in to Bangladesh. Cauvery belongs to Tamil Nadu as mush as it is to Karnataka
Re: Basic Truth
by divine on Oct 10, 2012 04:35 PM
Raghu Ram your statement cannot be accepted. There is a wise saying - Charity begins at Home. First take care of your family and then spend on charity. By starving your family there is no use in Charity. The current situation in Karnataka is such. For your information, Kannadigas are more human than the rest of India. Its from my heart. Though I am born in Trichy and living in Bangalore for the last thirtyfive years, I know the feelings of Kannadigas. I bet, can you show me in any state assemblies where you can see Tamilians as MLAs or Corporators. Karnataka boasts of having accommodated Tamils, Telugus and Malayalis in Assembly as well in Corporation. Dont just abuse as you live in democracy.
Re: Basic Truth
by Sridhar BL on Oct 10, 2012 04:36 PM
So you saying leave sufficient water to TN let Karnataka suffer with insufficient water.. What justice is this.
Re: Re: Basic Truth
by Raghu Ram on Oct 10, 2012 04:44 PM
Mr. Balan, Nice , me too belongs to Trichy, by the side of "Aganda Cauvery". And Mr. Sridhar, Ok. don't let the water to flow in to TN now. Then waht you will do when Karnataka is blessed or cursed with over rain. Can you make the statement, " not even a drop of water" that time?
Re: Re: Re: Basic Truth
by Sridhar BL on Oct 10, 2012 05:02 PM
@Raghu.. We are leaving water to TN....may be that is less as of now coz we are also suffering form drought. But you are asking for extra water.. how can I donate blood when I am suffering form anemia... Understand brother...
Re: Re: Basic Truth
by AAA aa on Oct 10, 2012 04:46 PM
take the situation where there is no dam in upper riparian states, then water would've flown during rains..now that there is a dam built in KA, the natural flow of water during rains is affected..in that case water is to be shared. got it?
Re: Basic Truth
by satishgs on Oct 10, 2012 04:50 PM
River belongs to country and not a state, correct your opinion first.
Rivers should be treated as national assets and policies to be stipulated based on actual rainfall, storage capacity, crop season, seasonal requirement. instead of fighting, make all rivers are nationalization. no state will own it.
water Sharing is need based and on actual rain for that year.
Re: Re: Basic Truth
by vishanthikodi murthy on Oct 10, 2012 05:07 PM
River belongs to country and not a state...correct..We don't belong to this state,country or world.Actually we all belong to Vaikunta..where we need not fight for all these petty problems.This is well taken care by Vaikunta's Prime minister
Re: Basic Truth
by Indian on Oct 10, 2012 04:58 PM
It's tamilian's who believe cauvery belongs to them not kannadiga's. Agreement between 2 states happened before independence when areas in karntaka ruled by king and madras by english peoples .
Most of the contents in the agreements were flavoring tamilanadu as Britons were ruling that area.
Karnataka contributes 425 TMC and gets 270 TMC water but tamil nadu gets 419 TMC whose contribution is just 250 . And moreover the drought area in the cauveri basin which lies in karnataka in 65% and where in TN is just 30%.
This time in karnataka witnessed one of the worst drought next only to maharashtra. Water is not sufficient for drinking itself TN is asking for irrigation purpose that also for 3rd crop.
For more details read:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaveri_River_water_dispute
Now tell me who is thinking cauveri belongs to whom.
Re: Basic Truth
by pen on Oct 10, 2012 05:15 PM
Mr.Raghu Karnatka people never claimed Cauvery belongs to KA. I will tell you truth that if the same water we needed definitely we would not have got single drop from TN(Assume the reverse case). Your Amma is playing with our budda PM. This is always the politics played by Tn against Karnataka. TN never understand the feeling of other states(You did same thing in Mulla Periyar case with Kerala). Cultivate boardmindedness like KA people & show your maturity be as an Indian ratherthan regional man !!
Re: Re: Basic Truth
by Nagendran Moorthi on Oct 11, 2012 04:35 PM
You People and Kerla people hurting tamils feeling and not obeying SC orders and it is like doing terror agains t to TN
