If China learns Indian Democracy, then China will turn into India. Isn't that right??? ...with disgusting behavior, no advancement, no self respect, poorly educated... I'm not the only commenter saying this. Dalai is nothing but a fraud. And "Holi shit", the new guy is a Harvard Law School scholar. Why do you need a Harvard Law School Scholar to be a "Spiritual leader". Oh, right, I forgot, the temples can get wireless internet now. Isn't he being picked so that he could play Democracy's politics. If there is harmony in Indian society, then why are Indians scared of getting mugged when they travel back to Delhi. I'll agree with the transparency in Indian, in that the corruption is so transparent nothing will be done by the government to make India a great nation. Indian democracy is false democracy, and so is every other democracy in the world. It's just a name and a mask that crooks,bullies and Dalai hide behind. As everyone calls it, China is a developing nation, and it will develop its own style of democracy along side its traditional values. China will continue to grow stonger and never be suppressed by the West again (or any other nation. I'm not the only one saying this, every Western government is feeling it in their bones. Everyone knows that. Off topic now (sort of): The west has never gone into Africa to help them. Promised aid, but black people never saw any. China build their infrastructure, China
Jaganath get practical India has all the elements to be a great nation but we have very hollow leadership. Today china's per capita is double of that of India .We have more poor to feed than them what will u give them to eat ? newspapers ? we are free country see see read the latest news no censorship u r so lucky u have no food but u can read latest news try saying that to the poor. Indian factories were far more advanced that china in the 50's we had better techs smarter people but look at where they are today and where we are .And nothing has changed our policies remain dacronian for a hard working guy to grow in India . You say India will do good ? Tell me what does it take for a country to do good .A country where hard work and talent is respected and well paid are atleast 2 of the factors(there r others) .Do you today look at our youth and feel they r motivated to work hard does the environment in India make them feel to be rich in India I must work hard ? no today they feel u need to be corrupt, have contacts or go abroad . When the leaders will create an environment of nurturing patriotism , nurturing talent , promote hard working and intellectuals and get rid of corruption only then can India grow. Chinese govt has so far proved everyone wrong ,so many times people said they will doom when they build that much infra in 70s ,but fact is they r serious and work hard to keep things going in their favor. Our govt ? India has future no doubt but it is way 2 later .
Re: @Jaganath Bharat : Good to be patriotic but blind love is sui
by pertinax on Mar 17, 2011 06:42 PM
Indian's future is bright. just as we chinese can hardly image one day the gdp we will surpass japan 10 years ago. something is not that difficult as it looks like. i'm sure the future of india would much better than anyone's image
Re: @Jaganath Bharat : Good to be patriotic but blind love is sui
by Jaganath Bharat on Mar 17, 2011 03:07 PM
Love and justice are always blind. Let's not forget India and China are not traveling on the same path. They're not headed for the same goals. Indian path is uphill, with many challenges and problems remaining to be resolved, but I see no reason whatsoever to give undue credit to China, which seems to be coasting and accelerating (economically, militarily), but generally downwards (when seen politically and socially). Maybe hard working Indians don't get rich, but who says Chinese got rich by hard work? It's boring to remind everyone that rich Chinese elite got their by hook and crook and exploitation of Chinese slaves. How is this road worth taking or emulating by Indians? It is not. Living modern and complex lives many of forget how a turtle could overtake a hare in the famous children's story, or should I say panchantantra stories? Yes, your identification of India's shortcomings are genuine, but there's no need to be fooled by China's shiny side, which has successfully obscured their crooked side. People who know the true nature of this Chinese crooked side up, would gladly pay the Indian price to escape China. Still, never have I said India should stop evolving, it should go on. Nonetheless, I know China will eventually fall. Most likely it'll happen without warning, suddenly, and after a few shows of violent strength. When? I don't know, but before they pull another 1962.
Re: Re: @Jaganath Bharat : Good to be patriotic but blind love is
by pertinax on Mar 17, 2011 06:31 PM
I agree with most of your words, but i would say, at least in the big cities, many people will spent nearly 3 hours on the way to the office in the morning, and go back to home at night. another 8-10 hours will spend in office house. while compare to japan, we do not work hard.
Jaganath get practical India has all the elements to be a great nation but we have very hollow leadership. Today china's per capita is double of that of India .We have more poor to feed than them what will u give them to eat ? newspapers ? we are free country see see read the latest news no censorship u r so lucky u have no food but u can read latest news try saying that to the poor. Indian factories were far more advanced that china in the 50's we had better techs smarter people but look at where they are today and where we are .And nothing has changed our policies remain dacronian for a hard working guy to grow in India . You say India will do good ? Tell me what does it take for a country to do good .A country where hard work and talent is respected and well paid are atleast 2 of the factors(there r others) .Do you today look at our youth and feel they r motivated to work hard does the environment in India make them feel to be rich in India I must work hard ? no today they feel u need to be corrupt, have contacts or go abroad . When the leaders will create an environment of nurturing patriotism , nurturing talent , promote hard working and intellectuals and get rid of corruption only then can India grow. Chinese govt has so far proved everyone wrong ,so many times people said they will doom when they build that much infra in 70s ,but fact is they r serious and work hard to keep things going in their favor. Our govt ? India has future no doubt but it is way 2 later .
Life expectancy at birth in China is 73.5 years; in India it is still 64.4 years.
Infant mortality rate is 50 per thousand in India, compared with just 17 in China…
China’s literacy rate is 94 per cent, compared with India’s 65 per cent, and mean years of schooling in India is 4.4 years, compared with 7.5 years in China…
Almost half our children are undernourished compared with a very tiny proportion in China. Only 66 per cent of Indian children are immunised with triple vaccine (DPT) as opposed to 97 per cent in China. ..
Life expectancy in Bangladesh is 66.9 years compared with 64.4 years in India. The proportion of underweight children is slightly lower (41.3 per cent) in Bangladesh than in India (43.5 per cent), and the female literacy rate in Bangladesh is higher than in India. In terms of under-5 mortality rate, immunisation, and overall infant mortality, Bangladesh fares better despite its low GDP per capita.Dr Sen proceeds to hammer home his point: “To be sure, there are large numbers of people for whom growth alone does just fine, since they are already privileged and need no social assistance. Economic growth only adds to their economic and social opportunities… But the exaggerated concentration on their lives, which the media tend often to display, gives an incomplete picture of what is happening to Indians in general...
Jagannath, Your all sentences are based on future. Fact is that maoists in nepal are powerful. China is way ahead of India. All neighbourhood countries do not hesitate to insult India.
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by Jaganath Bharat on Mar 16, 2011 08:40 PM
I already answered your this comment below. Again for you: The fact is India continues to grow stronger everyday, despite everything thrown at it by malefactors near and far, of all kind and sundry. Fact is India is accepting the challenge in all fields, and fact is the tables are still turning with balls changing court even now. Winning a few battles does not mean winning the war. Winning a sprint does not mean winning the marathon.
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by freewill on Mar 16, 2011 08:44 PM
India is not growing stronger.Only few people enjoy the riches whereas 80% are living worse than sub-saharan africa.With poor infrastructure,exploding population and poor governance India is heading towards disaster.
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by Jaganath Bharat on Mar 16, 2011 09:47 PM
You don't know what you talking about or you're willingly spreading untruths about India. Go live in Africa if you want, it's much worse than India.
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by freewill on Mar 16, 2011 10:18 PM
More poverty in India than sub-Saharan Africa-15 JUl 2010 THE HINDU. I m not saying this.Read the article & decide for yourself.
Jagannath, It is not kindness or tolerance or hesitation. Truth is that Indian establishment knows that they cannot face china.Hence they are soft towards china.
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by Jaganath Bharat on Mar 16, 2011 08:31 PM
Alright, you're entitled to your viewpoint. I keep mine. The future will unfold and speak for itself.
Yesteday (& today) I could not access nationmultimedia com (Thai online newspaper). I realize now that since the frontpage featured the Dalai Lama, it was being blocked (cyber attack) by Chinese agents. A nation that blocks a press freedom not only domestically, but sabotages press in other nations will never learn, and cannot be underestimated. I say use stronger tactics in "persuading" China.
Re: China very dangeous, not learning
by pertinax on Mar 17, 2011 12:40 PM
What? I'm in China , and I can read this article and see dalai's photo clearly. why you blame China for everything, even you can't surf on line.... China is not what dalai depicted, but you have welcome to believe in him.
Re: Re: China very dangeous, not learning
by Jaganath Bharat on Mar 16, 2011 07:56 PM
Dream on, the day will come that China crumbles, it's the destiny of every totalitarian and communist nation. China is merely the slowest to accept this reality, living in chronic denial. That day India need only give a small budge, and China will collapse, much to the joy of humanity globally.
Re: Re: Re: China very dangeous, not learning
by freewill on Mar 16, 2011 08:04 PM
Haha,we indians keep on dreaming we are superpower when we can`t exercise influence even on sri lanka and nepal. Eternal optimism or foolishness.
Re: Re: Re: Re: China very dangeous, not learning
by Jaganath Bharat on Mar 16, 2011 08:09 PM
Do not mistake Indian kindness, tolerance or hesitance to use force as a weakness. Never has there been a moment that India could not instantly crush either of these nations into oblivion. It is simply was neither India's choice or desire. That does not mean it won't be so in the future, if it comes to that.
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by Jaganath Bharat on Mar 16, 2011 08:19 PM
Don't try to hide in the Chinese past, where India offered them friendship, but Chinese cunningly betrayed Indian friendship. That was an easy victory of cowards. I'm talking about the future of China, where they will not have the advantage of Indian trust anymore.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: China very dangeous, not learning
by Jaganath Bharat on Mar 16, 2011 08:22 PM
@freewill, you're mistaken. Diplomacy is all about feelers. Maoists will anyway be defeated. They're suicidal amateurs who havn't seen the full extent of their adversaries.
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by freewill on Mar 16, 2011 08:31 PM
Your all sentences are based on future. Fact is that maoists in nepal are powerful. China is way ahead of India. All neighbourhood countries do not hesitate to insult India.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: China very dangeous, not lear
by Jaganath Bharat on Mar 16, 2011 08:39 PM
The fact is India continues to grow stronger everyday, despite everything thrown at it by malefactors near and far, of all kind and sundry. Fact is India is accepting the challenge in all fields, and fact is the tables are still turning with balls changing court even now. Winning a few battles does not mean winning the war. Winning a sprint does not mean winning the marathon.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: China very dangeous, not learning
by freewill on Mar 16, 2011 08:18 PM
So india did not stop the rise of maoists in nepal becos indian government is tolerant and kind.Diplomacy does not work based on feelings.
