if one sits back and look at the case closely it is easy to assume that the girls parents r the killers for having made love with the servant boy. cbi was bribed but the one who took it did not share with the new in charge who said the truth. it is easy to digest that no outsider may have ever came to kill arushi.
Re: mad parents
by Lucky B on Mar 02, 2011 03:28 AM
How about another theory, that one predator like you were hiding nearby, and as soon as the gate was open he sneaked in.
Please restrain yourself before producing any rumor.
Re: mad parents
by Ramkishore S on Mar 02, 2011 01:10 AM
The Sherlock Holmes dictum for murder mysteries... " When you eliminate all that this impossible, what is left, no matter how improbable, is the truth"
Re: Whatever Aarushi's father did was absolutely RIGHT
by tik tak on Mar 02, 2011 04:09 AM
i bet you're from tribal region of north west frontier province of pak
Re: Whatever Aarushi's father did was absolutely RIGHT
by youngturk on Mar 02, 2011 02:33 AM
Double nooses will be ready whoever tries to save his pitiable honor by murdering their offspring.
It is utmost egoistic on the part of investigative agencies in naming the parents of Arushi. They willingly submitted themselves to the lie detector and rain maping tests.
If they persist with this charge then they have to accept that these high tech processes of lie detectors and brain mapping have no authenticity and shall stop using them on others forth with. The CBI should start the case with a common sence , not with circumstantial evidence.
For me who ever has murdered Hemaraj and Arushi is a genious and had a lot of grudge on the Talwars and wanna teach Talwar some thing he will have to live with his life. That person not only killed his daughter horrendously , but also could frame the father . So just ask Talwar to cooparate and ask him all the horendous things he did to others , name them if Rajesh is honest and forth comming he will name a few say 5 people whom he has done so much crime , so as to take this kind of revenge on him . who ever did that he had running vengence on this man for several years , waited patiently and performed his objective meticulously . I think the CBI should ivnvestigate that way.
Re: Nonsense.
by Li Na on Mar 02, 2011 01:27 AM
Rajendra, you have overlooked some facts...which is like common sense.
1. What were Aarushi's parents up so early? The maid said that they were late risers. How cd they have gotten up so early?? 2. A third person simply cannot enter house, know the exact keys of terrace, know exactly where the bar is, etc. No third person after killing wd stay back for drinks....they wd try their best to get out. 3. For a dentist, Rajesh Talwar seemed to know an awful lot about weapons and the impact it makes. He tried to push that the servant must have done it with a khukri 4. The mother seemed to mechanical and emotionless....and it's not the sort of mechanical behaviour you see when your loved one is dead. She gave an interview 10 days after her daughter's death, on a day when her husband was named as aspect. No shock. No sorrow. 5. If a third person had committed 2 murders....why wd he take the effort to move 1 body to terrace and leave the other one locked in a room and actually have drinks.
I don't know much about the case, but something is definitely fishy. May be the Talwars are guilty...mebbe they are not.But there are a lot of unanswered questions. I also find it hard to believe that father killed both because he found the servant and daughter in compromising position. Or...that Aarushi was killed because there was an affair going on.
There has to be a murkier secret that they want to preserve...and something that's work taking 2 lives for.
Re: Nonsense.
by youngturk on Mar 02, 2011 01:10 AM
Sad part is father can be a suspect, because third persons involvement was not established. That would be established only if the investigations were serious from the beginning, without destroying the evidences because of lack of professionalism. Now they are scared, because rajesh might sue them and they have to pay heavily for their charges against rajesh. They dont want touch DNA test to be done, did not do DNA test of the hair found in mouth of hemraj! Only option is to bring foreign agencies like scotland yard to be brought into picture. At least that way inter-agency politics could be kept aside.
The conclusion of the CBI sounds credible as per the strong circumstantial evidence surrounding the murder, although it was perhaps not intentional and was committed in a fit of rage. It is hard to imagine a parent murdering his/her own child, but family and societal pressures can easily drive these acts and is not uncommon in a society like ours (India): Refer to stats on infanticides and honor killings in India.
Re: Honor killing
by deadman on Mar 02, 2011 09:37 AM
CBI's theory is idiotic.if the murder was committed in rage the weapons used for killing both should be same.then why parents haven't removed the body of girl along with servant?
Re: CBI
by hotz on Mar 02, 2011 12:57 AM
because despite destroying evidence by allowing reporters and others to contaminate the crime scene..The court rejected crucial narco analysis and lie detector evidence saying the court cannot accept it for any case as evidence..what can cbi do in such a case other than file a closure report
Re: CBI
by darpok indian on Mar 02, 2011 01:01 AM
They have nothing to loose. they take salary, bribe, lick Congi boots, do no work and when the court asks randomly pick a scrape goat. See justice. benerjee,s report? that fker has altogether a different version. Anything can happen here
Abortion is no doubt condemnable. But can anybody deny the cost of raising a girl? Its much higher than a boy. Now today's girls are careerists. So along with the cost of marriage there is also the added cost of the higer education and career building of the girl. Even if the girl is working she will still expect and ask her father to pay for the bills of her marriage. Also keeping a girl in an unknown city like Delhi or Mumbia for her higher education is costlier than a boy. Boys can take a lot of hardship. They can get into the general class of a train. But for a girl she will always prefer sleeper class if not AC or flight. Now after spending so much of money she will go to another family. Now the guys generally stay with their families. Today's men are getting closer to their parents and look after them after witnessing the idiosyncracies of so called modern women.Now women and feminists may not like my words. But this is practical and in case of the education or marriage nobody will come forward to help? So why to point towards others?Even a month ago a lady judge was reported in the media to list her daughters as liabilities. Only a fool can deny the huge cost associated with girl children.
Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by darpok indian on Mar 02, 2011 01:05 AM
Who asked u to have a child dude? dont generalize. We, men behave like dogs, eve tease, rape, no respect for women. be a human, dont make a profit loss equation of humanity
Re: Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by attacker on Mar 02, 2011 01:15 AM
before commenting on men like that u forgot that ur father and brothers are also men. on one side u r preaching not to generalise and on other side u r doing the same... dont be a darpok be a brave man and proud to be a man.
Re: Re: Re: Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by attacker on Mar 02, 2011 01:25 AM
for who ever it is... u shd respect men equally.. actually, in india since childhood it is teached to respect woman.. but no one teach us to respect man.. thats why u use the words like dog for man... things need to change... india needs to develop self-respect.. dont be ashamed of being a man.. it is a thing to be proud of..
Re: Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by youngturk on Mar 02, 2011 01:15 AM
Its men who made girls lives miserable and unsafe. This in turn has made girls weaker and loose their space, finally making the whole society weaker. Shame on men like chalta hai. They are worthless creature may be only possible to see in india.
Re: Re: Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by attacker on Mar 02, 2011 01:23 AM
neither girls are weak nor unsafe.. its all media hype words.. just like hindu terror*sts.. infact, india is the country where women are most safe and respected. i've been to many countris and know how they treat women their... but, indians dont have any self respect thats why such false propaganda is used to defame india.
Re: Re: Re: Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by youngturk on Mar 02, 2011 02:26 AM
Dont tell me this bullshit. Typical of indian self-aggrandising men! Indians really dont have self respect so they touch some other human being(women) illegally on bus train roads, demean them in regular basis and think they have insulted them! Dont teach me abt first world countries, I have visited enough, lets face it, Indians will have to walk extra miles to match up with them. U might have visited third world countries who are in despicable condition only because they force a miserable life on women.
Re: Re: Re: Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by darpok indian on Mar 02, 2011 01:37 AM
true, but u might not have travelled in local trains or public transport.Its so uneasy with all the stares, comments. I've been to other countries too. Do u dare misbehave with others or litter around whrn abroad?
Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by Narayanan Sangameswaran on Mar 02, 2011 01:30 AM
Going by your argument, you could save everything by not having any child. So it does not matter if the child is a girl or a boy. An healthy ratio of boys and girls is required for a society to sustain and thrive. And both of them should be given the same opportunity and treated well for a society to thrive. As for someone taking care of you in your oldage, why do you depend on your children. Why dont you stay healthy and continue to contribute? To me it sounds like you wanted to have your children under your control as long as you are alive.
Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by Harinder Singh on Mar 02, 2011 12:53 AM
Girls are priceless. Were you delvered by a man or a woman ? No civilization can exist without girls. No girls means "End of human race"
Re: Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by Saravanan Subramanian on Mar 02, 2011 01:01 AM
No boys too means "End of human race". Girls alone is not sufficient.
Keeping aside your emotional/sentimental statements, comments from Chalta Hai seems sensible
Re: Re: Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by youngturk on Mar 02, 2011 02:27 AM
U have a similar peanut sized brain like chalta hai. Terrible to have people like u in the country.
Re: Re: Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by Guru Dandamis on Mar 02, 2011 01:07 AM
I am father of a 10 month old beautiful girl baby. I would like to ask Chalta Hai one question. Had it not been your generous father not marrying your liability mother, you will not be here in rediff forum commenting about the girl child. Have one girl child and see how the door of heavens open for you. Even if you say its a liability to have girl child, it is worth the pain...it is worth the loss. Good Night!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by darpok indian on Mar 02, 2011 01:11 AM
halta hai and Saravanan should seep with pgs. they are not humnan. no need to educate or invest on pgs. May be they are born to pgs
Re: Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by attacker on Mar 02, 2011 01:16 AM
both men and women are equally required in the world.. if girls are pricessless then boys too are priceless.. i am proud to be a man.. are you?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by youngturk on Mar 02, 2011 02:30 AM
Girls are girls, they are human beings, they can be from any walk of life, they can be criminal also. No need to humiliate them just because of their physical attributes. Its a shame to do that. you are not shaming them, rather shaming yourself, do you realize it?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GIRL CHILD IS A liability
by attacker on Mar 02, 2011 01:29 AM
do u think all girls are sati-savitris.. yesterday i read a news that a wife kills her hubby for money.. so, do all woman start feeling ashamed of being women.. thr r good n bad elements irrespective of gender...
Re: Sex should be Dissociated from family honour( pseudo)
by youngturk on Mar 02, 2011 12:37 AM
Surely talwars will not kill their minor child even if she had it. Besides this is an unfounded lie, serious kind of character assasination of a dead child on part of CBI. CBI must be sued, and will be, thats why they are clutching straws to save themselves and UP police.
Re: Re: Sex should be Dissociated from family honour( pseudo)
by Sri Das on Mar 02, 2011 12:49 AM
some big dumbhead politician should have been involved in this...so as usual the cry babies investigator (CBI) will lick the politician boots (petticoat government with a banana republic) and come up with a new story after three years.
Re: Re: Sex should be Dissociated from family honour( pseudo)
by Harinder Singh on Mar 02, 2011 12:44 AM
I also pray this is not true. Parents killng children is of the "DEVIL"
Re: Sex should be Dissociated from family honour( pseudo)
by youngturk on Mar 02, 2011 12:41 AM
Other than such nonsense, filmy juicy stories what else our uneducated police and CBI know? If a 'girl' is killed and her servant of her fathers age also is killed alongside, immediately a colourful story of sex will be wooven around. No need of investigations, motives murder weapons etc!
Re: Re: Sex should be Dissociated from family honour( pseudo)
by darpok indian on Mar 02, 2011 01:00 AM
They have nothing to loose. they take salary, bribe, lick Congi boots, do no work and when the court asks randomly pick a scrape goat. See justice. benerjee,s report? that fker has altogether a different version. Anything can happen here
From CBI. After all thats what they can do, write filmi story and call it 'invetigation'. Talwars, who had umpteen number of options to save their most loved one, a minor, but they dont explore any of them. They just kill the daughter, because they went mad one night. Who will buy this story? Why dont CBI not do touch DNA test, will it expose their efforts to save UP police?
Re: Fantastic nonsense
by youngturk on Mar 02, 2011 12:32 AM
That too, talwars were a very open minded family, had inter community marriage themselves. Hemraj was a grandfather. CBI, please dont peddle saas bahu type stories, people of India are not retards. If you cannot etablish how did it happen, and why, please give it to foreign agencies. At least they will not try to cover up UP police, and do forensic tests properly.
