Everybody knows that the underworld in bombay is encouraged and also assisted by our politicians, along with our police force. It is such a shame that today, a city like bombay, which was once a thriving international metropolis has ended up like a small town run by the police mafia to fund their lifestyle. Their philosophy is, if u have a headache, cut ur head off..its the best solution. after the nov terrorist attacks, instead of trying to stop all avenues for terrorists, they curbed the movement of people around south bombay, closed the roads, and stopped parties around the area. the mission of pakistan and the terrorist groups were complete, they won their game, they managed to scare the residents. no wonder the common man will never trust our police force when he wants help..better to go to dawood ibrahim, atleast he can be trusted to do his job..
Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Vivek Dev on Jul 06, 2011 06:13 PM
It is Mumbai, not Bombay. Do you have British or Portuguese blood in your veins that you call the city Bombay. By the way even Brits and Portuguese have accepted the new name, grow up.
Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Aditya Venkat on Jul 07, 2011 12:48 PM
dear dev, i wish u knew the history of bombay. it is a city created by the portuguese and the british, not the maharashtrians. infact it has been an accepted part of both gujarat and maharashtra..a seperate province. and moreover, lets try and create a city as good as the brits did, not change names to show how good we are. we have just destroyed what the brits left us. keep ur pseudo nationalism to urself. i was born and brought up in bombay and it will always be bombay for me.
Re: Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Vivek Dev on Jul 07, 2011 02:03 PM
AV: If you are so concerned about the city I suppose you can make a positive contribution by just moving out and taking up permanent residence in your Madras, Chennai whatever. What to do with city leave it to us, you dont belong here.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Aditya Venkat on Jul 07, 2011 06:16 PM
i have probably contributed more than u can ever do vivek. and who r u to ask anyone to leave the city.. i was born here and will remain here as long as i want. the name change did not happen with the consent of all maharashtrians, a few goondas with their policial mentors can make a big difference in your pseudo democratic process. If you are so concerned about being patriotic, then try doing something yourself for bombay. this false sense of nationalism have never contributed to nation building. try supporting parties and issues that will make a difference to bombay. dont know about u, but i have a stake in my city'S growth and development, and thats why i dont like people like u with jingoistic feelings to hijack the agenda of my city's development. bombay will always remain bombay for the ones who have a stake in this city's development. so get used to this !! and yes, dont fall to these petty levels of asking people to leave the city. looks like ur an immigrant urself !!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Aditya Venkat on Jul 07, 2011 06:17 PM
i have probably contributed more than u can ever do vivek. and who r u to ask anyone to leave the city.. i was born here and will remain here as long as i want. the name change did not happen with the consent of all maharashtrians, a few goondas with their policial mentors can make a big difference in your pseudo democratic process. If you are so concerned about being patriotic, then try doing something yourself for bombay. this false sense of nationalism have never contributed to nation building. try supporting parties and issues that will make a difference to bombay. dont know about u, but i have a stake in my city'S growth and development, and thats why i dont like people like u with jingoistic feelings to hijack the agenda of my city's development. bombay will always remain bombay for the ones who have a stake in this city's development. so get used to this !! and yes, dont fall to these petty levels of asking people to leave the city. looks like ur an immigrant urself !!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Vivek Dev on Jul 07, 2011 08:38 PM
Thanks for whatever you have contributed. BY the way outsiders like you did not come to contribute or develop Mumbai they came to develop their bank accounts. And let us face it we have more stakes in this city than you. We are rooted here unlike you who come only to make money more by crook than by hook. You refuse to even obey the order of the government on something as simple as a name change. What can you contribute and what will it be worth in any case. First understand that the starting poing of culture is when you accept that what is yours is yours and what is somone else's is not yours. If you lay claims to what does not belong to you then you are not a cultured person. We don't lay claims on Chennai or any other place that does not belong to us. Learn that much from us at least. It is you who is falling to petty levels by refusing to call the city by the proper name Mumbai.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Vivek Dev on Jul 07, 2011 08:43 PM
AV: Thanks for your contribution again but we dont need any more of it. I think you should now migrate to Kashmir and make some contribution there and try to lay proprietray claims on the place. That will give you the right perspective on this issue.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Aditya Venkat on Jul 07, 2011 06:16 PM
i have probably contributed more than u can ever do vivek. and who r u to ask anyone to leave the city.. i was born here and will remain here as long as i want. the name change did not happen with the consent of all maharashtrians, a few goondas with their policial mentors can make a big difference in your pseudo democratic process. If you are so concerned about being patriotic, then try doing something yourself for bombay. this false sense of nationalism have never contributed to nation building. try supporting parties and issues that will make a difference to bombay. dont know about u, but i have a stake in my city'S growth and development, and thats why i dont like people like u with jingoistic feelings to hijack the agenda of my city's development. bombay will always remain bombay for the ones who have a stake in this city's development. so get used to this !! and yes, dont fall to these petty levels of asking people to leave the city. looks like ur an immigrant urself !!
Re: Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Vivek Dev on Jul 07, 2011 01:32 PM
Fine as I have said on this board many times educated Indians give a bad name to education. I suppose since the government has changed the name we should all accept our government's decision. Go on please yourself who can stop you.
Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Navi Reyd on Jul 07, 2011 01:46 AM
The city got its name from the Portuguese who called it "Bom Baim" meaning: "Good Bay". The British anglicised it to "Bombay". It was never ever known as "Mumbai". There should be a law against changing the names of international cities by chauvinists.
Re: Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Vivek Dev on Jul 07, 2011 08:40 AM
The name change was effected by a democratically elected government duly following all the democratic processes of the republic of India. THe name change was endorsed and accepted by the democratically elected central gov ernment. Now as educated and responsible citizens of the country it is incumbent upon us to accept the change. If educated people do not accept the orders of the government then who will accept it? It is not nationalism, it is plain common sense and responsible citizenship. Got it.
Actually this controversy is a creation of the irresponsible media which likes to oppose the government on such issues knowing full well that the liberal government cant make them fall in line. This is in stark contrast to their attitude when it comes to opposing the extra constitutional methods of desperadoes. Some time back the terrorists in Kashmir issued a dictat directing these same mediawalas to refer to them as militants or face the consequences. These brave media walas readily fell in line and thereafter there were no terrorsists in Kashmir, there were only militants. It seems only third degree works with educated Indians, what a shame.
Re: Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Vivek Dev on Jul 07, 2011 08:44 AM
History is immaterial. THe people of Mah wanted to change the name, they have changed it. Now as an educated responsible person it behoves you to accept the change.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Alpha Q on Jul 08, 2011 06:59 AM
Man whats with all the hostility towards education? Chill maar dost, you can make your point without all the anger too, then maybe people will actually listen and appreciate what you have to say
Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by sat iyer on Jul 06, 2011 11:54 PM
Vivek, Are you up for changing Aurangabad to its original name before Aurangazeb changed it? Perhaps you dont even know the original name. Stop showing off your pseudo-nationalism. I still love calling Bombay - BOMBAY!
Re: Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Vivek Dev on Jul 07, 2011 08:43 AM
Yes, I am. By the way if you are in US and the US government issues an order about something will you oppose it?
Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Navi Reyd on Jul 07, 2011 01:47 AM
The city got its name from the Portuguese who called it "Bom Baim" meaning: "Good Bay". The British anglicised it to "Bombay". It was never ever known as "Mumbai". There should be a law against changing the names of international cities by chauvinists.
Re: Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Vivek Dev on Jul 07, 2011 08:47 AM
To hell with the Portugues and brits. What they did is not germane to the issue. It is what the people of Mah decide that matters.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Bombay has gone to the dogs !!
by Navi Reyd on Jul 11, 2011 11:47 PM
Bombay became the great city that it is - thanks to British, Parsee and Gujarati enterprise. The Maharastrians have done little or nothing for Bombay. Bombay should be removed from Maharastra, and made the second capital of India directly under New Delhi rule. Poona or any other city could then be made the capital of Maharashtra. I know countless people whose ancestors were born in Bombay who are not Maharashtrians as Marathi is not their mother-tongue.
It is truely shameful that YOUTH of India have degraded to such standards of immorality that the moral police have to come in to intervene to stop them from such acts public indecency.It is the neccesity of the day that youth of india should abide by the laws and behave with decency and soberity in the public.If not then a time will come when the whole society will turn into a ugly rot.
Re: Mumbai Police action against dirty dancing couples
by tiger on Jul 06, 2011 01:43 PM
madam - what if they start policing you in your drawing room??? are all your acts so called "MORAL"
Re: Re: Mumbai Police action against dirty dancing couples
by abhinandan chatterjee on Jul 06, 2011 02:07 PM
exactly.you should not police your opinion on others by hook or crook.I this case it was a plain and simple money extortion in the pretext of moral policing.
Re: Mumbai Police action against dirty dancing couples
by malik mukund on Jul 06, 2011 01:23 PM
After drinking are they in senses to think anything about decency. Money earned by parents by wrong doing, by corruption to become richer is then paid back by their children taking wrong path.
Re: Re: Mumbai Police action against dirty dancing couples
by utpal bhuyan on Jul 07, 2011 07:44 AM
I earn my own money by working my derriere off 5 days a week, 9 hours a day and I do like to spend it well on weekends
Re: Mumbai Police action against dirty dancing couples
by sat iyer on Jul 07, 2011 12:30 AM
If you read the article, the party wasnt in a public place. So public indecency is out of question. Think before you write comments.
Re: Re: Mumbai Police action against dirty dancing couples
by lycoming on Jul 07, 2011 01:35 AM
If it was not a public place then it must be a private place !!! What about permission for gathering?was it taken from appropriate authorities?
It is truely shameful that YOUTH of India have degraded to such standards of immorality that the moral police have to come in to intervene to stop them from such acts public indecency.It is the neccesity of the day that youth of india should abide by the laws and behave with decency and soberity in the public.If not then a time will come when the whole society will turn into a ugly rot.
Mumbai police are doing their job. In mumbai so many people are entering from various route with no records, their intention, where they will be residing and when will they leaving Mumbai, next destination all these is very much required to keep record to keep mumbai the safer place from terrorist. During Mumbai attack 11 terrorist entered sea route and police had no idea they were chasing terrorist until a granite was thrown upon them. They are doing their job , its wise everyone in Mumbai should cooperate and behave like responsible citizen of India. By drinking the animal which haunts in man can lead to killing each other too and end the man in jail with future in dark. why wasting money on this partying do some good work by helping the poor, if you can't something good to others please don't do bad too.
Re: mumbai police doing their job
by malik mukund on Jul 06, 2011 12:53 PM
INDIA NEED STRONG AMENDMENT IN CONSTITUTIONAL BILL FOR MAKING INDIA THE SAFER COUNTRY TO LIVE IN
Re: Re: mumbai police doing their job
by malik mukund on Jul 06, 2011 01:00 PM
Now Eid is coming on 31st, mumbai police will pave way for their musical band yatras and will safely celebrate it too and just watch during our festival how our heart will be in fist, joy covered with terror attack, police and media informing terrorist have entered the city ( now since 2 years)and 24 hours on duty. This is what a Mumbai today.
Re: Re: Re: mumbai police doing their job
by Alpha Q on Jul 07, 2011 01:19 AM
'Their' and 'Our' implies not 1 but 2. You talk of a unified, stronger and safer country. You think that can ever happen when you use words like 'our' and 'their'? Change has to come from somewhere. Think about it
Re: Re: Re: Re: mumbai police doing their job
by lycoming on Jul 07, 2011 01:30 AM
He using the words "their " and "ours"!But that is the reality ,the facts cannot be conveyed without using this words!
Re: mumbai police doing their job
by abhinandan chatterjee on Jul 06, 2011 12:58 PM
honestly answer one question. have you never partied or celebrated anything ever? if yes, was it necessary?you could have been happy just like that. Mumbai police is quiet efficient in certain respects everybody agrees, but not in this case. this was a deliberate case of illegal extortion under the guise of legality, which police very well knew they will get away with.
Media is destroying young gerneration by giving them all kinds of wrong ideas. Liberal attidue does not mean breaking law, it means obeying the law. Media is big negative in India, it is part of the problem,not part of the solution.
Re: Media is destroying
by Dude on Jul 06, 2011 12:46 PM
Completely agree with this. The 'English Media' does nothing good for the country, economically, politically or culturally. Most of the news that you get to see today is biased.
Re: Media is destroying
by Alpha Q on Jul 07, 2011 01:23 AM
I'm not a big fan of our 'self righteous', 'we know best' media. And at the end of the day the law of the land is indeed the law of the land, right or wrong. HOWEVER....with all the crime and corruption around us today, are raids such as this one really a priority for the police? Really???
Re: Will there be a campaign if !
by Alpha Q on Jul 07, 2011 01:30 AM
So are you saying that because (in your opinion) there would be no campaign if the incident had taken place at a Dhaba, therefore you have no problem with what they did here?
First of all, Mumbai Police should learn how to be polite, bring Crime rate /rapes /robbery/supari killings/commericial crime, rather than booking innocent people enjoying drinks at some Pubs,
These raids were carried out, mainly to recover more HAFTAS, to satisfy lust of SENIOR POLICE /MINISTERS/BABUS to meet their expenses and to match their assets with Ministers. All police officials want to make maximum money by any means KILLING/MURDER/SELLING INFORMATION/INVOLVEMENT WITH SLUMLORDS/BUILDERS /BOOKIES OF RACE/MATCHES. BUT TO HELP AAM ADAMI.
Re: police did not receive their cut
by vinod vinod on Jul 06, 2011 12:23 PM
mahrasshtra police is equal to scotland yard and secular force not like guj-police n MP-police chattsigrah-Police
Re: Re: police did not receive their cut
by Chirst on Jul 06, 2011 12:32 PM
may be u forgot mumbai riots of 1992, they did a wonderful job of keeping quiet
