Re: What is a religion means ?
by Barakat m on Jan 22, 2011 04:05 PM
You could have said the basic point of living a healthy life is to live and let others live without causing harm. Quran is a source of guidance from Allah for all. So it is to be read, understood and followed.
You forgot to mention Narsimha Rao, Laloo Prasad, NTR. Each had more than half a dozen. See the problems faced by some countries such as Japan, Italy and China who have followed one or two child policy. This matter can be left to the families to decide themselves the number of children they want. Burqa is not mandatory. The essence is to wear modest clothes which do not invite attention from opposite sex. Many non muslims also wear modest dress. Sometime back a Hindi news channel conducted an interseting experiment. A news reporter/anchor went unnoticed while wearing a modest dress waiting at a bustop. The same lady turned up in revealing dress some time later and she was the object of attention with necks craning. More than a million may have been killed or maimed in Iraq since the occupation. Who is responsible? We all know. The most Powerful Democracy/Military power mercilessly killed and maimed people in the name of bringing in Democracy. The same is the case with Afghanistan. Yes the message of Peace conveyed in 7th Century is more relevant in 21st than ever because of mayhem every where. The call to prayer which hardly lasts 2/3 min at dawn is not shouting. You did not mention the early morning bhajans and the several processions hampering normal life
Re: What is a religion means ?
by Barakat m on Jan 22, 2011 04:04 PM
You could have said the basic point of living a healthy life is to live and let others live without causing harm. Quran is a source of guidance from Allah for all. So it is to be read, understood and followed.
You forgot to mention Narsimha Rao, Laloo Prasad, NTR. Each had more than half a dozen. See the problems faced by some countries such as Japan, Italy and China who have followed one or two child policy. This matter can be left to the families to decide themselves the number of children they want. Burqa is not mandatory. The essence is to wear modest clothes which do not invite attention from opposite sex. Many non muslims also wear modest dress. Sometime back a Hindi news channel conducted an interseting experiment. A news reporter/anchor went unnoticed while wearing a modest dress waiting at a bustop. The same lady turned up in revealing dress some time later and she was the object of attention with necks craning. More than a million may have been killed or maimed in Iraq since the occupation. Who is responsible? We all know. The most Powerful Democracy/Military power mercilessly killed and maimed people in the name of bringing in Democracy. The same is the case with Afghanistan. Yes the message of Peace conveyed in 7th Century is more relevant in 21st than ever because of mayhem every where. The call to prayer which hardly lasts 2/3 min at dawn is not shouting. You did not mention the early morning bhajans and the several processions hampering normal life
Re: What is a religion means ?
by Barakat m on Jan 22, 2011 04:04 PM
You could have said the basic point of living a healthy life is to live and let others live without causing harm. Quran is a source of guidance from Allah for all. So it is to be read, understood and followed.
You forgot to mention Narsimha Rao, Laloo Prasad, NTR. Each had more than half a dozen. See the problems faced by some countries such as Japan, Italy and China who have followed one or two child policy. This matter can be left to the families to decide themselves the number of children they want. Burqa is not mandatory. The essence is to wear modest clothes which do not invite attention from opposite sex. Many non muslims also wear modest dress. Sometime back a Hindi news channel conducted an interseting experiment. A news reporter/anchor went unnoticed while wearing a modest dress waiting at a bustop. The same lady turned up in revealing dress some time later and she was the object of attention with necks craning. More than a million may have been killed or maimed in Iraq since the occupation. Who is responsible? We all know. The most Powerful Democracy/Military power mercilessly killed and maimed people in the name of bringing in Democracy. The same is the case with Afghanistan. Yes the message of Peace conveyed in 7th Century is more relevant in 21st than ever because of mayhem every where. The call to prayer which hardly lasts 2/3 min at dawn is not shouting. You did not mention the early morning bhajans and the several processions hampering normal life
pornist@n is a cancer to the world,it has always been ever since its formation , The sooner its wiped out , the better , else the whole world is going to suffer.
Re: Re: ..........
by abhishek pushp on Jan 22, 2011 06:55 AM
i think , the past 10 years has brought out the real face of pornist@n to the world.. thta's the reason its the most h@t3d country in the world today. may be this decade , it will d13 its d3ath..
Re: Re: Re: ..........
by Ram R on Jan 24, 2011 12:00 PM
Pakistan will survive because China and USA will never allow it to finish. If they finish it, then who will make new Jihadis and all arms and ammuniation will get rusted in warehouse of China and USA. Both have deep interest in maintaining Pakistan. However time will come when same evil of World will destroy China and USA. Because Cancer never fails to spread. It needs time and they have all the time.
Islam is not compatible with Democracy and freedom of speech.
I am not a hater of Islam. But its a fact. You cannot question anything about Islam before you get killed.
For Muslims their religion and prophet comes before everything. If that is the attitude, its dangerous for the country.
You see a lot of Pakistni websites where even the educated people talk about Islam and swear to kill people who question them.They bring religion into everything and think from the Islamic point of view.
Pakistan either has to get rid of Islam or be like Saudi Arabia and become a 100% Islamic republic.There is no in-between for them.
Islam and Democracy are poles apart.
Separation of religion and state as employed by USA is such a wonderful thing.
I am not an expert in Muslim religion but one of my friend told me, for muslims the greatest reward is if they are able to convert a "non believer". Now for that muslim boys are encouraged to have relationship with non muslim girls. If they can marry her, it means a convert for them. Even if she is married or do not want to marry the boy, they are still encouraged to have physical relationship with non muslim women, reason, in earlier times it was used as infiltration tactics into different clan and capture them. So unlike a hindu who would want to keep a physical relationship outside his natural partner a secret specially amongst his relatives, the muslims are more aggressive and gets support from everyone including their wife. So hindu girls and women be careful be very careful if you befriend a muslim boy, he would try to have a physical relationship with you at the earliest.
I have often heard Muslims say "Interpretation of PIzzl@m"... I mean there are 1.6 billions Muslims , so there must be 1.6 billions interpretation of PIzzl@m, this is ridiculous. Is quran written in some codified language that even Muslims are not united on its interpretation??????????????????
why their.god.mohd, why he did this: 1. mercilessly finished off entire family, including innocent, unarmed, men, kids, women and old aged. 2. why he spared one 10 year old girl. 3. why he carried her off to his place. 4. why he married her, at her age of 10 years old. and what his age?? near 45.
5. last of all, why all these people pray to above mohd.
i cannot figure it out. i dont need to, really. i think i know the answer. again depends on who answers.
Re: just someone tell me---desperate for answer.
by Barakat m on Jan 22, 2011 04:17 PM
Answer to your 4th question. A brief look at history will clear all doubts. In the Vedic age there was both the custom of 'Kanyavivaha' where the marriage of a pre-puberty girl was arranged by her parents and 'praudhavivaha' where the girls were married off after attaining puberty. The French Napoleonic code provided the legal context in 1791 when it established an age of consent of 11 years. The age of consent, which applied to boys as well as girls, was increased to 13 years in 1863. Like France, many other countries, increased the age of consent to 13 in the 19th century. Nations, such as Portugal, Spain, Denmark and the Swiss cantons, that adopted or mirrored the Napoleonic code likewise initially set the age of consent at 10-12 years and then raised it to between 13 and 16 years in the second half of the 19th century. The 1860 Indian Penal Code set the age at 10 years; in 1891 the age of consent but not the age of marriage was raised to 12 years. A furious debate preceded the enactment of the 1891 law, focused in large part on whether the law violated the commitment the British government had made in 1857 not to interfere in native cultures. That Indian law set the age lower than British law reflected ideas that non-white races "matured earlier," in part because of the environments in which they originated. (Stephen Robertson, "Age of Consent Laws") In this era there is no dearth of high profile people marryi
Re: just someone tell me---desperate for answer.
by Barakat m on Jan 22, 2011 02:42 AM
Like France, many other countries, increased the age of consent to 13 in the 19th century. Nations, such as Portugal, Spain, Denmark and the Swiss cantons, that adopted or mirrored the Napoleonic code likewise initially set the age of consent at 10-12 years and then raised it to between 13 and 16 years in the second half of the 19th century. The 1860 Indian Penal Code set the age at 10 years; in 1891 the age of consent but not the age of marriage was raised to 12 years. A furious debate preceded the enactment of the 1891 law, focused in large part on whether the law violated the commitment the British government had made in 1857 not to interfere in native cultures. That Indian law set the age lower than British law reflected ideas that non-white races "matured earlier," in part because of the environments in which they originated. (Stephen Robertson, "Age of Consent Laws") In this era there is no dearth of high profile people marrying girls less than one third or one half of their age in the so called Developed world. All Scholars unanimously agree that Ayesha (May Allah be pleased with her) went to live with the Prophet (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) as his wife, after she had reached puberty. She and her parents fully consented to the marriage. There was no criticism issued at that time and subsequently, by Muslims and non-Muslims. Hence, this was in accordance to the prevailing custom, and the age old t
No reasonable person expect a future for pakistan as it does not have a civil society which can think like human beings. They are educated in madrasas by mulls of stone age mind set who can easily misguide their pupil to the highest level of fanaticism.In the modern world can any one see a place for something called a blasphemy law?
