Where was Excise Deptt in S 24 Pgs.? Simply suspending the officer is no remedy. Take some exemplary steps against excise deptt. to root out this menace. Entire Excise Dept. must be taught a lesson so that they will think 1000 times to do anything wrong till their death.
Re: killer Hooch
by Jai Neo on Dec 16, 2011 06:05 PM
Excise & Customs deppartment is a leader in corruption. Obviously the Cops and Excise officials were aware about the distillation, transportation & distribution of illicit liquor. The local cops must also be sacked and their properties attached!
Local Panchayet, Zila Parishad, MLA, MP all are with TMC. State Govt is with TMC. Mamata is CM and Home minister. She heads both the administration and police dept. She already got 7 months. Could not she order to demolish liquor dens? How many days it take to demlish such dens? Even if they have started in left rule, she could easily stop that. She can put a current MLA behind bars on skeleton case, she can pass ordinances to get singur land back in no time, and now if she blames CPM for this incident that is unbelieveable. But the sad part is in West Bengal, people believe in such conspiracy theories, as they also beleived that CPM arranged Gyaneswari accident though later Mamata contradicted herself.
Re: Why blame CPM now?
by sujit sengupta on Dec 16, 2011 05:34 PM
Mr Bengali Gyanweshari accident was done by CPM every one knows that now.Police tapped the conspiratoprs phone calls atleast 10 hours before the incident happened but due to some pressure from the hme ministry then led by Budhdhadeb did not take any action to stop that accident.You can refer to Hindustan Times and TOI in this regard.Everyone now knows what the CPM can do to malinge the present Govt and when you talk about 7 months...why this CPM cuold not demolish these dens in last 34 years...??
Re: Re: Why blame CPM now?
by Richard Robertson on Dec 16, 2011 05:51 PM
Please get your facts right before writing. The CBI has already come out with the verdict that the Gyanweshari accident was a pre planned sabotage of the Moists. Our current CM to also aired it on Star Ananda. Regarding the Hooch incident, please note that the Gram Panchayat is under the TMC for the past 4 years. It was the duty of local administration to take care of it. You just cannot keep on blaming the last Govt. for any and everything. The people of have voted for change, where is the change. Yes the Govt. i only 8 months old but the Gram Panchayat is 4 yrs old.
Re: Re: Re: Why blame CPM now?
by sujit sengupta on Dec 17, 2011 11:01 AM
Robertson CBI did not put forward the name of the Komreds regarding Gyanweshari incident because they had been bribed by land at rajarhat(that scam is now being opened again).There has been a supplementroy chargesheet alreday which has bene out forward to the court.Get your facts right dear. Regarding Gram Panchayet , from where di you get this info that this Gram Panchayet is under TMC for last four years..??Panchayet election was held in 2oo8(not 4 years...3 years)...and this gram Panchayet waswon by the CPM.Get your facts corrected dear.
Re: Re: Why blame CPM now?
by AnotherBengali on Dec 16, 2011 07:03 PM
Gives me a real laugh. Nowadays even blind supporters too don't listen to didi. Mamata, as CM, only said that Gyaneswari was done by Maoists, that too in Kolkata in a rally and it was shown in all major TV channels
Now for demolishing such liquor dens, fact is CPM and TMC are two sides of same coin. If TMC was serious about such things they would have done it in one day. They simply don't want. You know, you can wake up someone who is sleeping, but not someone who is pretending.
Re: Re: Re: Why blame CPM now?
by sujit sengupta on Dec 17, 2011 11:02 AM
Didi has no proof regarding the phone tapping of the Maoists and the CPM leaders so she cannot oepnly say about that but there has been a supplementory chargesheet produced alreday in the gyanweshari incident. Get your facts right dear.
Re: Re: Why blame CPM now?
by AnotherBengali on Dec 16, 2011 07:04 PM
Gives me a real laugh. Nowadays even blind supporters too don't listen to didi. Mamata, as CM, only said that Gyaneswari was done by Maoists, that too in Kolkata in a rally and it was shown in all major TV channels
Now for demolishing such liquor dens, fact is CPM and TMC are two sides of same coin. If TMC was serious about such things they would have done it in one day. They simply don't want. You know, you can wake up someone who is sleeping, but not someone who is pretending.
Re: Re: Why blame CPM now?
by Dada Kondke on Dec 16, 2011 06:05 PM
Kaka, let us agree that the owner of these dens was with left and now with TMC, that is the reason neither left nor TMC tried to demolish these
Re: Why blame CPM now?
by SAMIRBARAN DAS on Dec 17, 2011 09:11 AM
trinamool has deactivated REGA scheme since long, since their victory in south 24 pargana zila parisad , 5 years ago. So the altenative industry started grwoing. Local trinamool leaders are knowing it. their relatives and friend only died. Now the Trinamool leaders are trying to restore REGA upto the level of LF period. Let us hope the best.
Now the Liquor in West Bengal is sold by Trinamool Congress local leaders and its supporters so Mamata Banerjee is directly responsible for the for the death of more than 140 poor people. Her aim may to kill the poor people.
Re: Liquor in West Bengal
by sujit sengupta on Dec 16, 2011 05:34 PM
suresh babu so you mean to say for last 34 years liquor qwas sold by Budhhadeb Babu...??
Re: Re: Liquor in West Bengal
by Dada Kondke on Dec 16, 2011 05:54 PM
seems so...and now sold by Mamtha Banerjee, difference is 171 deaths at a time after consuming the liquor sold by Mamtha devi
Re: Re: Re: Liquor in West Bengal
by sujit sengupta on Dec 17, 2011 11:03 AM
Dada calculate the number of deads from 200 to 2011.The number ranges somehting aorund 500.
Re: Join us
by Argumentative Indian on Dec 16, 2011 11:37 AM
Its a human tragedy, lets accept that and move on. All breast beating will not bring the dead back. Even if I had myself died in this tragedy, or my near and dear one, breast beating won't bring me / them back.
Lets take immediate corrective action:
1) Sufficient compensation for all victims to move on very well in life. Instead of a piddly lumpsum, of say Rs. 1 to 5 lacs, I would advocate a monthly lumpsum payment of Rs. 10,000 for the wife and Rs. 2500 extra per month per child. This sounds stupid, like rewarding people who have more children, but look with one spouse dead, there will NOT be anymore children. Let the remaining children have a stab at life, at food, clothing and above all, some education.
The allowance for the wife should be for her natural life term or 15 years, which ever is LONGER. The allowance for the children should be till they attain the age of 21 years.
2) Ofcourse arrest the perpetrators and punish them to the maximum extent permissible under law.
Lets follow up with Preventive Actions:
1) Spread awareness of the ills of drinking. 2) Open / encourage Alcoholics Anonymous and other counselling / rehab organizations / facilities.
Re: Re: Join us
by Argumentative Indian on Dec 16, 2011 11:39 AM
3) License country liquour manufacturers and make the same hygenic and available at a low cost, thus eliminating the latent demand for the toxic / unlawful alcohol.
Re: Join us
by Avinash on Dec 16, 2011 11:55 AM
Javed, the person who was involved in making and wellling the hoooootch was aMuslim!! Yesterday I had seen manyBurquaCladWomen crying over theirDeadRelatives. What have you to say about that?
Re: Re: Join us
by Argumentative Indian on Dec 16, 2011 12:01 PM
A, by what passes for 'logic' according to Javed, then whatever else his community memebers get convicted for, or suffer from is NOT considered a SIN.
It may sound unfair or even can call it total mistrust .I have a feeling this sort of thins do not happen unless there is a political support from low rug politicians or a very senior one .May be the influence of Regional films and Hindi films could be major reason . All the same I for one will believe there must lot of political patronisation in this sort of liquor business . Even it may sound foolish but think Anna's comment lashes to drunkards - perhaps we could have avoided so many deaths .Now big part of corruption is money promised to victims family will be pocketed by politicians -such is their stock today.
